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If anyone would like to search metro.co.uk/2020/04/10 coronavirus-mutated-three-distinct-strains-spread-across-world-12536852/ I will let them try and discredit Dr Peter Foster Hound from Cambridge University.
Quote from: selby on April 11, 2020, 06:01:27 pmIf anyone would like to search metro.co.uk/2020/04/10 coronavirus-mutated-three-distinct-strains-spread-across-world-12536852/ I will let them try and discredit Dr Peter Foster Hound from Cambridge University.Given your past glee in calling Diane Abbott out on her maths, I’m surprised you’ve not mentioned Priti Patel’s figures on the amount of tests carried out so farthree hundred thousand, thirty four, nine hundred and seventy four thousand"
There is a good article on the subject in THE MAIL ONLINE today if you care to read it. or you can wait while Tuesday and the Guardian will have the parts they want you to read.
For what it's worth, I don't like making a big deal about this sort of mistake. Dead easy to do in the heat of the moment when someone is working hard. But I know there are folk on here who a) pissed themselves laughing at Abbott for years and b) take offence if anyone suggests they are not even handed, so I wanted to help them out.
"And you can't have paranoia that if you post one piece of evidence someone will reply with something different. That's how it has to work."Absolutely that is how science works. You postulate hypotheses about how the world works. And you check that against the evidence in front of you. And you are prepared to change your mind. That is why science is the greatest invention of humanity. It doesn't depend on faith or opinion or argument. It depends on checking ideas against facts. And the only ideas that survive are the ones that aren't contradicted by the facts.The great quantum physicist Richard Feynman said "It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn't matter how smart you are. If it doesn't agree with experiment(1), it's wrong."(1) Or any trustworthy evidence.All that said, that's fine when you have the benefit of time to collect facts and compare them against theory. More often, like now, things are too messy or too rapidly changing for you to be able to definitively say that X is right and Y is wrong. So you make the best guess based on uncertain input. Always being prepared to change your mind as the evidence develops.
I move in lots of circles hound, which helps me when I post comments containing irony
I don't know if anyone has noticed but the UK has almost reached 10000 deaths from covid 19 - 24 days after the first death was recorded.Italy also reached 10000 deaths - 24 days after the first death was recorded.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on April 11, 2020, 02:54:51 pm"And you can't have paranoia that if you post one piece of evidence someone will reply with something different. That's how it has to work."Absolutely that is how science works. You postulate hypotheses about how the world works. And you check that against the evidence in front of you. And you are prepared to change your mind. That is why science is the greatest invention of humanity. It doesn't depend on faith or opinion or argument. It depends on checking ideas against facts. And the only ideas that survive are the ones that aren't contradicted by the facts.The great quantum physicist Richard Feynman said "It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn't matter how smart you are. If it doesn't agree with experiment(1), it's wrong."(1) Or any trustworthy evidence.All that said, that's fine when you have the benefit of time to collect facts and compare them against theory. More often, like now, things are too messy or too rapidly changing for you to be able to definitively say that X is right and Y is wrong. So you make the best guess based on uncertain input. Always being prepared to change your mind as the evidence develops. Ricky Gervais once said in an interview. If you burn every book in the world, religions will potentially die out as they are basically people's opinions down the ages,.but science is science, the tests will.always give the same results . Physics, chemistry etc Is constant, sooner or later, the science books will be rewritten exactly the same...
Quote from: adamtherover on April 11, 2020, 07:18:03 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on April 11, 2020, 02:54:51 pm"And you can't have paranoia that if you post one piece of evidence someone will reply with something different. That's how it has to work."Absolutely that is how science works. You postulate hypotheses about how the world works. And you check that against the evidence in front of you. And you are prepared to change your mind. That is why science is the greatest invention of humanity. It doesn't depend on faith or opinion or argument. It depends on checking ideas against facts. And the only ideas that survive are the ones that aren't contradicted by the facts.The great quantum physicist Richard Feynman said "It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn't matter how smart you are. If it doesn't agree with experiment(1), it's wrong."(1) Or any trustworthy evidence.All that said, that's fine when you have the benefit of time to collect facts and compare them against theory. More often, like now, things are too messy or too rapidly changing for you to be able to definitively say that X is right and Y is wrong. So you make the best guess based on uncertain input. Always being prepared to change your mind as the evidence develops. Ricky Gervais once said in an interview. If you burn every book in the world, religions will potentially die out as they are basically people's opinions down the ages,.but science is science, the tests will.always give the same results . Physics, chemistry etc Is constant, sooner or later, the science books will be rewritten exactly the same...I wouldn't use Ricky Gervais's opinions as a template for anything in life.
Quote from: SydneyRover on April 10, 2020, 01:21:43 pmI move in lots of circles hound, which helps me when I post comments containing irony it amazing what you come across on the internet "accidentaly". Sydney out of interest can you tell me what your surname is then i can check if you are on this list ......................... might explain why you are leaving Oz ??https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Australian_criminals
Quote from: scawsby steve on April 11, 2020, 07:43:58 pmQuote from: adamtherover on April 11, 2020, 07:18:03 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on April 11, 2020, 02:54:51 pm"And you can't have paranoia that if you post one piece of evidence someone will reply with something different. That's how it has to work."Absolutely that is how science works. You postulate hypotheses about how the world works. And you check that against the evidence in front of you. And you are prepared to change your mind. That is why science is the greatest invention of humanity. It doesn't depend on faith or opinion or argument. It depends on checking ideas against facts. And the only ideas that survive are the ones that aren't contradicted by the facts.The great quantum physicist Richard Feynman said "It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn't matter how smart you are. If it doesn't agree with experiment(1), it's wrong."(1) Or any trustworthy evidence.All that said, that's fine when you have the benefit of time to collect facts and compare them against theory. More often, like now, things are too messy or too rapidly changing for you to be able to definitively say that X is right and Y is wrong. So you make the best guess based on uncertain input. Always being prepared to change your mind as the evidence develops. Ricky Gervais once said in an interview. If you burn every book in the world, religions will potentially die out as they are basically people's opinions down the ages,.but science is science, the tests will.always give the same results . Physics, chemistry etc Is constant, sooner or later, the science books will be rewritten exactly the same...I wouldn't use Ricky Gervais's opinions as a template for anything in life.what? science tests will be a constant under the same conditions even if they are done a 1000 years apart? What part of that do you disagree with? Or or are you being obtuse just because you dont like a certain brand of comedy? Hes a massive campaigner for animal rights, i suppose you disagree with that as well as you didnt like the office?
But at least its honest about that, unlike religion.
Quote from: Colemans Left Hook on April 11, 2020, 07:30:53 pmQuote from: SydneyRover on April 10, 2020, 01:21:43 pmI move in lots of circles hound, which helps me when I post comments containing irony it amazing what you come across on the internet "accidentaly". Sydney out of interest can you tell me what your surname is then i can check if you are on this list ......................... might explain why you are leaving Oz ??https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Australian_criminalsSo the 'Whinging Pom is on his way back tail between his legs (possibly) from the Promised land of Milk and Honey. Don't go shooting yer mouth off at Keepmoat Cobber some of us might remind you of what you had to say about this land when you abandoned it!
''Coronavirus: Priti Patel 'sorry if people feel there have been failings' on PPE''The apology you issue when you don't want to issue an apology I suppose?https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-52252470