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It's interesting that at the presser Hancock said they had been running the two systems together (which is in direct conflict with what he told the Mirror & Guardian on 18th May when he said they were only working on the NHS one - but there you go). https://twitter.com/GuardianHeather/status/1273659728292429824So as the Google/Apple version is now up and running in countries and we have been trialing it for a month or so.....why wont it be in use here until winter?
Quote from: SydneyRover on June 18, 2020, 01:21:35 pmJimmy Wales is offering to roll out the German app freeIf the NHS will to support it, I could roll out the German Corona-Warn-App (privacy respecting, official diagnosis rather than self-reporting as I understand it) in short time at zero cost to the taxpayerhttps://twitter.com/jimmy_wales/status/1273540187163852801?s=20Its just a bit of false posturing though as the German App has only just been released and even the Germans don't trust it. As per the German Press;Germany has launched a new app aimed at speedily tracking down new clusters of coronavirus infection as the country's lockdown is relaxed. However, Berlin may struggle to convince many Germans to sign up for the service.
Jimmy Wales is offering to roll out the German app freeIf the NHS will to support it, I could roll out the German Corona-Warn-App (privacy respecting, official diagnosis rather than self-reporting as I understand it) in short time at zero cost to the taxpayerhttps://twitter.com/jimmy_wales/status/1273540187163852801?s=20
It seems to me that the development of systems to protect us from CV-19 is a classic example of where international collaboration could and should pay dividends. Instead, on PPE, on lockdown timing and now on this bloody app, we have insisted on a British Exceptionalism approach. We have proudly said "We are British and we know better than you." And we have called it wrong, every damn time.This really ought to be a wake up call that goes beyond this crisis if we are to have a secure, safe and prosperous future. If we insist on wrapping ourselves in the flag, insisting we know best, then f**king up like this, there are more hard lessons to come this decade.
SM. The fact is that we, pretty much alone in the world, went for the centralised data storage system. We went for a system that couldn't interface with the ones being developed in the EU. [1]Just like we went for Herd Immunity when everyone else was locking down.Just like we opted out of the EU co-ordinated PPE procurement and management system.As I say, British Exceptionalism at every step. We know better don't we? Because we are British.There's a theme here if you just join the dots.[1] See here for example. https://techcrunch.com/2020/05/15/how-will-europes-coronavirus-contacts-tracing-apps-work-across-borders/SM: What I do is to look at evidence and then form conclusions. You seem to think I form conclusions then go looking for evidence.
SMThe EU has gone about this in a co-ordinated way which means that all their apps have a common and compatible structure. That means that they will work when people move across borders. Yes they developed them in each country, but there has been an agreed underpinning approach.We, alone in Europe chose to go a different way. I don't understand what you are arguing about.
And just to add, are we happy that 2 of the USA's technological giants have so much influence on what we can, and cannot, roll out in terms of health based solutions?
How many more lies is this government going to perpetrate? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-53105642
Quote from: Not Now Kato on June 20, 2020, 01:19:23 pmHow many more lies is this government going to perpetrate? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-53105642Surely that's a bit of hair splitting by Apple?Maybe not directly with the government but with the NHS provider most definitely.
Wot if everyone wore name tags and had bodycam