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My Jimmy Saville impersonation used to have them rocking in the aisles.Wouldn't dream of doing it nowadays.Let's hope there's no skeletons in the cupboard about James Stewart, Humphrey Bogart or James Mason.My repertoire will be in tatters!
Hound.There's nothing basically wrong with noting that people are from different races. Telling a joke that revolves around something specifically English is not "racist".it is, as I say, always and everywhere about context and intention.So no, the Young Ones sketch wasn't by any possible definition "racist" even though it used the N word.And racism in practice is about relative power. You can be from a disenfranchised group and have racist attitudes towards people from a stronger, more powerful group, but there is far less effect in that. That's why a black person calling a white person "honky" doesn't have the same effect as a white person calling a black person a "nigger".I'm astonished that I have to spell this out to be honest. It seems self-evident to me.For the record, fro all the reasons I state up there, I think culling the Fawlty Towers Hitler sketch is a stupid over-reaction.
No but is still shown on TV.
BSTWhat I objected to in Fawlty Towers was not the scat about the Germans its the bit when Fawlty and the Major are discussing the W Indies cricket team.That is completely unacceptable in this day and age.
Quote from: tommy toes on June 12, 2020, 06:01:01 pmNo but is still shown on TV.I dont think it is 100% reasonable to judge the past by today's standardsLogically sense is to understand in context
https://twitter.com/JohnCleese/status/1271478966948265986?s=19I tend to agree
Selby.That'll be this one.https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2nxeviWatch it right to the end. The last minute is very instructive.
That's a thought, I wonder if old Syd has his house parked on a bit of real estate that some poor old indigenous Ausie really owns. Would he just vacate or come over all white supremacist? And old Iberian benefiting from all that lovely Inca and native South American native gold. I don't blame him for not demonstrating in Madrid against it. From what I saw of the Spanish police in Barcelona last year they are not that bothered about taking a Knee themselves, but are not adverse to putting someone on their back with a sore head. Nothing to get upset about it wasn't police brutality the same in Paris it happened in the EU so it is OK.
Selby.That'll be this one.https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6lsaxzWatch it right to the end. The last minute is very instructive.
Well, it's good that we are able to discuss and debate these matters as in some countries, it isn't an option. There's no doubt Understanding history and it's context helps us to shape the future. It's also good to debate what is perceived to be racist but actually isn't.Probablty like many, seeing the news and the protests with acts of vandalism, shocked me. I was naive enough to think this was a spontaneous reaction to the killing of a citizen in America. Then you see how remarkably similar these protests are in cities around the globe. Then you begin to smell something.Maybe I'm a bit slow on the uptake these days but there's much more to this than black lives matter. Of course black lives matter, all lives matter. Free speach and democracy matter. Then you realise this BLM organisation is something much more and these protests were a set up, made to look spontaneous.I've not fully got my head around this yet and maybe I'm too weary to fully grasp it but save your debates about Manning and Cleese, (although it does no harm to challenge our own views on racism) and look at the bigger picture of what the BLM movements aims and objectives are.
Quote from: DonnyBazR0ver on June 13, 2020, 08:20:35 amWell, it's good that we are able to discuss and debate these matters as in some countries, it isn't an option. There's no doubt Understanding history and it's context helps us to shape the future. It's also good to debate what is perceived to be racist but actually isn't.Probablty like many, seeing the news and the protests with acts of vandalism, shocked me. I was naive enough to think this was a spontaneous reaction to the killing of a citizen in America. Then you see how remarkably similar these protests are in cities around the globe. Then you begin to smell something.Maybe I'm a bit slow on the uptake these days but there's much more to this than black lives matter. Of course black lives matter, all lives matter. Free speach and democracy matter. Then you realise this BLM organisation is something much more and these protests were a set up, made to look spontaneous.I've not fully got my head around this yet and maybe I'm too weary to fully grasp it but save your debates about Manning and Cleese, (although it does no harm to challenge our own views on racism) and look at the bigger picture of what the BLM movements aims and objectives are. DBaz I always find that you can tell what a movement is about by how it is reported & the people that oppose it.There were dozen's of demonstrations attended by thousands of protesters in the UK. There was more singing and dancing then fighting.Football hooligans, Tommy Robinson making videos promising violence on the streets, racist chants, monkey noises and Nazi salutes. Some people do really want to takes us back to the 1970's.Makes you think. Makes me think.https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/y3zpzy/far-right-planning-defend-statues-blm-protestershttps://www.hopenothate.org.uk/https://www.hopenothate.org.uk/2020/06/08/football-hooligans-and-far-right-plan-london-demonstration/
Quote from: selby on June 12, 2020, 04:14:37 pmThat's a thought, I wonder if old Syd has his house parked on a bit of real estate that some poor old indigenous Ausie really owns. Would he just vacate or come over all white supremacist? And old Iberian benefiting from all that lovely Inca and native South American native gold. I don't blame him for not demonstrating in Madrid against it. From what I saw of the Spanish police in Barcelona last year they are not that bothered about taking a Knee themselves, but are not adverse to putting someone on their back with a sore head. Nothing to get upset about it wasn't police brutality the same in Paris it happened in the EU so it is OK.You should be paying homage to this man selby.Larry Tesler"The inventor of cut/copy & paste, find & replace, and more, was former Xerox researcher Larry Tesler," the company tweeted. "Your workday is easier thanks to his revolutionary ideas." Mr Tesler was born in the Bronx, New York, in 1945, and studied at Stanford University in California.Feb 20, 2020Pity no one told you about this though?https://www.quetext.com/
I havn't the time to be on here like you lot with nothing to do.