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Donny, as Thatcher said left wing and labour policies are brilliant until you run out of someone else's money.
Quote from: selby on July 12, 2020, 04:57:32 pm Donny, as Thatcher said left wing and labour policies are brilliant until you run out of someone else's money. Well, your lot seem to be spending money like it's going out of style. Wonder what will happen when THEY run out?
Quote from: Not Now Kato on July 12, 2020, 07:46:36 pmQuote from: selby on July 12, 2020, 04:57:32 pm Donny, as Thatcher said left wing and labour policies are brilliant until you run out of someone else's money. Well, your lot seem to be spending money like it's going out of style. Wonder what will happen when THEY run out?TBF Kato, it is a good job they are.I bet even BST would agree with that.
Yes I do hound.I am not sure they have spent it all on the right things, had the right priorities, made the best use of it or know how they are going to pay it back - but yes very much the right thing to do to abandon the past 40 years of Tory dogma and adopt a socialist policy to keep the country going.Now whether selby agrees they should be spending vast amounts of other peoples' money...
They interviewed a young lady on furlough who was on £ 45,000 pounds a year salary who was claiming that she was in severe financial difficulties after three weeks of the lock down and had developed depression because she was missing shopping and eating out.
You would have thought she might have saved a few bob for hard times wouldn't you.Mind you, there are plenty of people who live beyond their means.
Quote from: wilts rover on July 12, 2020, 09:49:00 pmYes I do hound.I am not sure they have spent it all on the right things, had the right priorities, made the best use of it or know how they are going to pay it back - but yes very much the right thing to do to abandon the past 40 years of Tory dogma and adopt a socialist policy to keep the country going.Now whether selby agrees they should be spending vast amounts of other peoples' money...I didn't realise you'd morphed into BST, Wilts.
I think Starmer better understands that problem, but God knows what the answer is. And the Tories will certainly heap coals on the Culture War fire, be Aude it is in their interests. There are no right wing economic ideas that solve our current problems, so they want to divert attention away from the economics.
There IS a serious debate to be had on the difficulty for Labour of keeping its coalition together. Labour only wins if it attracts both older working class folk in the ex-Industrial heartlands, and younger, often highly qualified people in the university cities.Lose either of those and Labour is doomed. Both of those sides broadly agree on left-wing taxation and public spending. But Brexit has overwhelmed all that and given us a Culture War. And there are very big differences in cultural outlooks between those groups.That's the thing that the Corbynistas never understood. To them it was all about the economics and spending. They wanted people's opinions on Brexit and what that said about their outlook on the world to be irrelevant. But as they found out in 2019, tack one way on that isdue and you lose one group, tack the other and you lose the other.I think Starmer better understands that problem, but God knows what the answer is. And the Tories will certainly heap coals on the Culture War fire, be Aude it is in their interests. There are no right wing economic ideas that solve our current problems, so they want to divert attention away from the economics.Back to that article. There IS a debate to be had, but a troublemaking Kitson like Hodges is not interested in that. He is part of the problem. Ostensibly a Labour supporter, what he actually is is someone who sits on the sidelines goading and trying to provoke arguments. He gives a couple of examples of idiots trolling on social media, and turns that into a "Liberal Left Hates Working Class" thesis. And note that he does the classic Mail thing of not giving a single link to his evidence, so no-one can go and check for themselves. What Hodges is doing is deliberately prodding the Selbys if this world by deliberately making them feel victimised. Why he does it, other than to keep a roof over his head, is anybody's idea.