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Fat ladies and singing come to mind, Hound. You are allowed to score until the ref blows for time. To me, our late goals show that we have a bit of resilience in the team - a nice thing to have.
A lot of whataboutery there.Consider also the last minute goals we have scored too.Without them where would we be in the hypothetical ppg league table.
LoL.Where are in in the first half ppg table.
Alan, I totally agree with that.I was just adding balance to the post saying where we would have been had we not conceded a last minute goal.
Quote Alan, I totally agree with that.I was just adding balance to the post saying where we would have been had we not conceded a last minute goal.Apologies, however it’s not what your original post said - it referred to usscoring last minute goals.I purposely missed all the other ‘ifs, buts & maybe’s’ as every club has that story to tell. The one glaring example, to me, where we’ve thrown 3 points down the drain, was the Wigan game. And, that one result would have made our present ppg right on the cusp of a ‘promotion’ chasing side, at 2 ppg. We’re still not showing consistency, even in a match, and if and when we do, we’re going to threaten the top 6, if not cement our place in it. My only doubts surround injuries and strengthening!
BST was just referencing that goal as an illustration of how close things are:“We are at the bottom of that group, but for perspective, if we'd not conceded the last minute goal Vs MK Dons, we would be top of it.”That doesn’t read to me like saying that we should be top of that group or that we’ve been unlucky, just how fine the margins are.
Quote from: NickDRFC on December 06, 2020, 08:50:02 amBST was just referencing that goal as an illustration of how close things are:“We are at the bottom of that group, but for perspective, if we'd not conceded the last minute goal Vs MK Dons, we would be top of it.”That doesn’t read to me like saying that we should be top of that group or that we’ve been unlucky, just how fine the margins are.Good grief.I was just saying that it works both ways.Ok, I give in.BST is always right isn’t he.Follow the leader.
Quote from: drfchound on December 06, 2020, 08:57:28 amQuote from: NickDRFC on December 06, 2020, 08:50:02 amBST was just referencing that goal as an illustration of how close things are:“We are at the bottom of that group, but for perspective, if we'd not conceded the last minute goal Vs MK Dons, we would be top of it.”That doesn’t read to me like saying that we should be top of that group or that we’ve been unlucky, just how fine the margins are.Good grief.I was just saying that it works both ways.Ok, I give in.BST is always right isn’t he.Follow the leader.Bit of an odd (and over-) reaction. I was just commenting that the way I see it, you’re rebutting a point that wasn’t even being made by BST. I could be misinterpreting what he’s saying myself, I don’t think you need to get so defensive about it.The only leader I follow is my wife when she’s in a mood!
I mentioned this separately. We are now entering a run of 4 home games out of 6 and they are all modest opposition. A full week off until the next game. We have played back in lads like Richards, JJ and proved Butler can last a full 90 mins. I make it we have Taylor perhaps back next week, while Gomes and Tulloch look longer. We are not far off a fully fit squad for this crucial run of games.
Quote from: Alan Southstand on December 06, 2020, 08:20:45 amQuote Alan, I totally agree with that.I was just adding balance to the post saying where we would have been had we not conceded a last minute goal.Apologies, however it’s not what your original post said - it referred to usscoring last minute goals.I purposely missed all the other ‘ifs, buts & maybe’s’ as every club has that story to tell. The one glaring example, to me, where we’ve thrown 3 points down the drain, was the Wigan game. And, that one result would have made our present ppg right on the cusp of a ‘promotion’ chasing side, at 2 ppg. We’re still not showing consistency, even in a match, and if and when we do, we’re going to threaten the top 6, if not cement our place in it. My only doubts surround injuries and strengthening!Alan, we know each other and I know you are an intelligent bloke.That makes it more bewildering to me why you don’t appear to understand what I was saying when I wrote about us scoring late goals to gain points.BST wrote that we would be in a better position had we not conceded a last minute goal against MKD.I countered by saying that had we not scored late goals ourselves then we would have been in a worse position.Things balance out over a season and as you rightly say, other teams will say the same thing.We nicked a point against Sunderland didn’t we with a last minute goal when we didn’t deserve to for example.
Quote Alan, I totally agree with that.I was just adding balance to the post saying where we would have been had we not conceded a last minute goal.Apologies, however it’s not what your original post said - it referred to usscoring last minute goals.I purposely missed all the other ‘ifs, buts & maybe’s’ as every club has that story to tell. The one glaring example, to me, where we’ve thrown 3 points down the drain, was the Wigan game. And, that one result would have made our present ppg right on the cusp of a ‘promotion’ chasing side, at 2 ppg. We’re still not showing consistency, even in a match, and if and when we do, we’re going to threaten the top 6, if not cement our place in it. My only doubts surround injuries and strengthening!
Horrible person but the football we played under McCann was very watchable.
Quote from: EasyforDennis on December 06, 2020, 12:25:08 pmHorrible person but the football we played under McCann was very watchable.We don’t actually know if he is a horrible person do we. Unless you know him personally of course.What we do know though is he is a Snake.
For what it’s worth, I think this team and squad is good enough to be in the play offs, but nothing more. It feels less consistent, less cohesive and less attractive than the McCann side. He like Saunders did a very good job from a standing start in developing a side that had a clear and effective style (Saunders had a skeleton squad after relegation and end of experiment, so was effectively starting from scratch). We have somehow put together a large and talented squad with little cash but as 6 of our best starting XI are not our players does point to the issue here - young and talented but raw and inconsistent.
Mccann was a very good manager for us.He’s not a snake he just went on to a bigger club and a club that had serious ambitions of being in the premier league. If one of us were manager of Mansfield and Derby county came in for us we would go, it’s a job for them and they obviously want to go as far as they can
Quote from: Campsall rover on December 06, 2020, 01:41:13 pmQuote from: EasyforDennis on December 06, 2020, 12:25:08 pmHorrible person but the football we played under McCann was very watchable.We don’t actually know if he is a horrible person do we. Unless you know him personally of course.What we do know though is he is a Snake.So you think snakes are nice? Or are you just looking for an argument?