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Quote from: sha66y on December 08, 2020, 11:49:17 pmQuote from: PDS01 on December 08, 2020, 06:56:25 pmJesus, how many times do people need to be told.Masks are not to protect you. They are to prevent you transmitting whatever you have to others. It’s why I get angry when I see people not wearing them properly. They think they are taking the risk. They are very very wrong (and stupid)Is there any scientific evidence to support this theory ?I tend to get angry seeing normal educated people still wearing masks in tescos......We all have our little foibles I guess....Take away the question of if a mask works or not, would it really harm anyone to wear one while we are in the middle of a pandemic?
Quote from: PDS01 on December 08, 2020, 06:56:25 pmJesus, how many times do people need to be told.Masks are not to protect you. They are to prevent you transmitting whatever you have to others. It’s why I get angry when I see people not wearing them properly. They think they are taking the risk. They are very very wrong (and stupid)Is there any scientific evidence to support this theory ?I tend to get angry seeing normal educated people still wearing masks in tescos......We all have our little foibles I guess....
Jesus, how many times do people need to be told.Masks are not to protect you. They are to prevent you transmitting whatever you have to others. It’s why I get angry when I see people not wearing them properly. They think they are taking the risk. They are very very wrong (and stupid)
Quote from: sha66y on December 08, 2020, 11:49:17 pmQuote from: PDS01 on December 08, 2020, 06:56:25 pmJesus, how many times do people need to be told.Masks are not to protect you. They are to prevent you transmitting whatever you have to others. It’s why I get angry when I see people not wearing them properly. They think they are taking the risk. They are very very wrong (and stupid)Is there any scientific evidence to support this theory ?I tend to get angry seeing normal educated people still wearing masks in tescos......We all have our little foibles I guess....Plenty of evidence. And a little thing called google will help you find it: https://www.google.com/search?q=scientific+evidence+supporting+masksA pretty cool video demonstration of mask v no mask here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZ66wJFD3bs&ab_channel=TheSlowMoGuysAnd if you still don't believe Masks can save lives, you're probably an idiot and beyond hope.And if you're just here to wind people up, how about pack it in being a moron.
So every healthcare professional on the planet is in on this global conspiracy then? nutter.
Quote from: Janso on December 10, 2020, 12:08:13 amSo every healthcare professional on the planet is in on this global conspiracy then? nutter.Now ya being silly !Have you actually sat down and thought about the rules being imposed on you....Tell me this ..... do you agree with EVERY rule that has been imposed upon you??? Yes or no ?
Quote from: bobjimwilly on December 09, 2020, 01:11:46 amQuote from: sha66y on December 08, 2020, 11:49:17 pmQuote from: PDS01 on December 08, 2020, 06:56:25 pmJesus, how many times do people need to be told.Masks are not to protect you. They are to prevent you transmitting whatever you have to others. It’s why I get angry when I see people not wearing them properly. They think they are taking the risk. They are very very wrong (and stupid)Is there any scientific evidence to support this theory ?I tend to get angry seeing normal educated people still wearing masks in tescos......We all have our little foibles I guess....Plenty of evidence. And a little thing called google will help you find it: https://www.google.com/search?q=scientific+evidence+supporting+masksA pretty cool video demonstration of mask v no mask here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZ66wJFD3bs&ab_channel=TheSlowMoGuysAnd if you still don't believe Masks can save lives, you're probably an idiot and beyond hope.And if you're just here to wind people up, how about pack it in being a moron.Stop quoting force fed information and open your eyes.....Pandemic = global lockdown4 days off over Xmas to mix groups = pandemic not that seriousAdd up all the things that appear or seem wrong and then look at the source of all these wrongs and you will notice the Government initiates everything...without having to produce any evidence .....they can and will control you because you really want to be told what you can and can’t do...There is no shame in being easily manipulated....... you are just not ready to see what’s in front of you...
Quote from: sha66y on December 10, 2020, 12:06:53 amQuote from: bobjimwilly on December 09, 2020, 01:11:46 amQuote from: sha66y on December 08, 2020, 11:49:17 pmQuote from: PDS01 on December 08, 2020, 06:56:25 pmJesus, how many times do people need to be told.Masks are not to protect you. They are to prevent you transmitting whatever you have to others. It’s why I get angry when I see people not wearing them properly. They think they are taking the risk. They are very very wrong (and stupid)Is there any scientific evidence to support this theory ?I tend to get angry seeing normal educated people still wearing masks in tescos......We all have our little foibles I guess....Plenty of evidence. And a little thing called google will help you find it: https://www.google.com/search?q=scientific+evidence+supporting+masksA pretty cool video demonstration of mask v no mask here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZ66wJFD3bs&ab_channel=TheSlowMoGuysAnd if you still don't believe Masks can save lives, you're probably an idiot and beyond hope.And if you're just here to wind people up, how about pack it in being a moron.Stop quoting force fed information and open your eyes.....Pandemic = global lockdown4 days off over Xmas to mix groups = pandemic not that seriousAdd up all the things that appear or seem wrong and then look at the source of all these wrongs and you will notice the Government initiates everything...without having to produce any evidence .....they can and will control you because you really want to be told what you can and can’t do...There is no shame in being easily manipulated....... you are just not ready to see what’s in front of you...I think you need to understand the difference between scientists who work on facts and a totally incompetent government who choose to ignore them most of the time.
Quote from: bobjimwilly on December 09, 2020, 01:11:46 amQuote from: sha66y on December 08, 2020, 11:49:17 pmQuote from: PDS01 on December 08, 2020, 06:56:25 pmJesus, how many times do people need to be told.Masks are not to protect you. They are to prevent you transmitting whatever you have to others. It’s why I get angry when I see people not wearing them properly. They think they are taking the risk. They are very very wrong (and stupid)Is there any scientific evidence to support this theory ?I tend to get angry seeing normal educated people still wearing masks in tescos......We all have our little foibles I guess....Plenty of evidence. And a little thing called google will help you find it: https://www.google.com/search?q=scientific+evidence+supporting+masksA pretty cool video demonstration of mask v no mask here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZ66wJFD3bs&ab_channel=TheSlowMoGuysAnd if you still don't believe Masks can save lives, you're probably an idiot and beyond hope.And if you're just here to wind people up, how about pack it in being a moron.Stop quoting force fed information and open your eyes.....Pandemic = global lockdown4 days off over Xmas to mix groups = pandemic not that seriousAdd up all the things that appear or seem wrong and then look at the source of all these wrongs and you will notice the Government initiates everything...without having to produce any evidence .....they can and will control you because you really want to be told what you can and can’t do...There is no shame in being easily manipulated....... you are just not ready to see what’s in front of you...
Quote from: sha66y on December 08, 2020, 11:49:17 pmQuote from: PDS01 on December 08, 2020, 06:56:25 pmJesus, how many times do people need to be told.Masks are not to protect you. They are to prevent you transmitting whatever you have to others. It’s why I get angry when I see people not wearing them properly. They think they are taking the risk. They are very very wrong (and stupid)Is there any scientific evidence to support this theory ?I tend to get angry seeing normal educated people still wearing masks in tescos......We all have our little foibles I guess....Plenty of evidence. And a little thing called google will help you find it: https://www.google.com/search?q=scientific+evidence+supporting+masksA pretty cool video demonstration of mask v no mask here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZ66wJFD3bs&ab_channel=TheSlowMoGuysAnd if you still don't believe Masks can save lives, you're probably an idiot and beyond hope.And if you're just here to wind people up, how about pack it in being a moron.
Quote from: sha66y on December 10, 2020, 12:27:07 amQuote from: Janso on December 10, 2020, 12:08:13 amSo every healthcare professional on the planet is in on this global conspiracy then? nutter.Now ya being silly !Have you actually sat down and thought about the rules being imposed on you....Tell me this ..... do you agree with EVERY rule that has been imposed upon you??? Yes or no ?How am I being silly. You're being a fruitcake.
Quote from: EasyforDennis on December 10, 2020, 07:40:36 amQuote from: sha66y on December 10, 2020, 12:06:53 amQuote from: bobjimwilly on December 09, 2020, 01:11:46 amQuote from: sha66y on December 08, 2020, 11:49:17 pmQuote from: PDS01 on December 08, 2020, 06:56:25 pmJesus, how many times do people need to be told.Masks are not to protect you. They are to prevent you transmitting whatever you have to others. It’s why I get angry when I see people not wearing them properly. They think they are taking the risk. They are very very wrong (and stupid)Is there any scientific evidence to support this theory ?I tend to get angry seeing normal educated people still wearing masks in tescos......We all have our little foibles I guess....We are only being fed one version of 'the science' from Dim Whitty and his side kick Dr Gloom. What about Keep It in yer trousers Ferguson who has never got a prediction right in his life.Plenty of evidence. And a little thing called google will help you find it: https://www.google.com/search?q=scientific+evidence+supporting+masksA pretty cool video demonstration of mask v no mask here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZ66wJFD3bs&ab_channel=TheSlowMoGuysAnd if you still don't believe Masks can save lives, you're probably an idiot and beyond hope.And if you're just here to wind people up, how about pack it in being a moron.Stop quoting force fed information and open your eyes.....Pandemic = global lockdown4 days off over Xmas to mix groups = pandemic not that seriousAdd up all the things that appear or seem wrong and then look at the source of all these wrongs and you will notice the Government initiates everything...without having to produce any evidence .....they can and will control you because you really want to be told what you can and can’t do...There is no shame in being easily manipulated....... you are just not ready to see what’s in front of you...I think you need to understand the difference between scientists who work on facts and a totally incompetent government who choose to ignore them most of the time. Yet there are 2 opinions coming out of the science....and we are being fed one without healthy debate...Tune into Talkradio, it might address those issues that are a bit grey
Quote from: sha66y on December 10, 2020, 12:06:53 amQuote from: bobjimwilly on December 09, 2020, 01:11:46 amQuote from: sha66y on December 08, 2020, 11:49:17 pmQuote from: PDS01 on December 08, 2020, 06:56:25 pmJesus, how many times do people need to be told.Masks are not to protect you. They are to prevent you transmitting whatever you have to others. It’s why I get angry when I see people not wearing them properly. They think they are taking the risk. They are very very wrong (and stupid)Is there any scientific evidence to support this theory ?I tend to get angry seeing normal educated people still wearing masks in tescos......We all have our little foibles I guess....We are only being fed one version of 'the science' from Dim Whitty and his side kick Dr Gloom. What about Keep It in yer trousers Ferguson who has never got a prediction right in his life.Plenty of evidence. And a little thing called google will help you find it: https://www.google.com/search?q=scientific+evidence+supporting+masksA pretty cool video demonstration of mask v no mask here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZ66wJFD3bs&ab_channel=TheSlowMoGuysAnd if you still don't believe Masks can save lives, you're probably an idiot and beyond hope.And if you're just here to wind people up, how about pack it in being a moron.Stop quoting force fed information and open your eyes.....Pandemic = global lockdown4 days off over Xmas to mix groups = pandemic not that seriousAdd up all the things that appear or seem wrong and then look at the source of all these wrongs and you will notice the Government initiates everything...without having to produce any evidence .....they can and will control you because you really want to be told what you can and can’t do...There is no shame in being easily manipulated....... you are just not ready to see what’s in front of you...I think you need to understand the difference between scientists who work on facts and a totally incompetent government who choose to ignore them most of the time.
Quote from: bobjimwilly on December 09, 2020, 01:11:46 amQuote from: sha66y on December 08, 2020, 11:49:17 pmQuote from: PDS01 on December 08, 2020, 06:56:25 pmJesus, how many times do people need to be told.Masks are not to protect you. They are to prevent you transmitting whatever you have to others. It’s why I get angry when I see people not wearing them properly. They think they are taking the risk. They are very very wrong (and stupid)Is there any scientific evidence to support this theory ?I tend to get angry seeing normal educated people still wearing masks in tescos......We all have our little foibles I guess....We are only being fed one version of 'the science' from Dim Whitty and his side kick Dr Gloom. What about Keep It in yer trousers Ferguson who has never got a prediction right in his life.Plenty of evidence. And a little thing called google will help you find it: https://www.google.com/search?q=scientific+evidence+supporting+masksA pretty cool video demonstration of mask v no mask here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZ66wJFD3bs&ab_channel=TheSlowMoGuysAnd if you still don't believe Masks can save lives, you're probably an idiot and beyond hope.And if you're just here to wind people up, how about pack it in being a moron.Stop quoting force fed information and open your eyes.....Pandemic = global lockdown4 days off over Xmas to mix groups = pandemic not that seriousAdd up all the things that appear or seem wrong and then look at the source of all these wrongs and you will notice the Government initiates everything...without having to produce any evidence .....they can and will control you because you really want to be told what you can and can’t do...There is no shame in being easily manipulated....... you are just not ready to see what’s in front of you...
Quote from: sha66y on December 08, 2020, 11:49:17 pmQuote from: PDS01 on December 08, 2020, 06:56:25 pmJesus, how many times do people need to be told.Masks are not to protect you. They are to prevent you transmitting whatever you have to others. It’s why I get angry when I see people not wearing them properly. They think they are taking the risk. They are very very wrong (and stupid)Is there any scientific evidence to support this theory ?I tend to get angry seeing normal educated people still wearing masks in tescos......We all have our little foibles I guess....We are only being fed one version of 'the science' from Dim Whitty and his side kick Dr Gloom. What about Keep It in yer trousers Ferguson who has never got a prediction right in his life.Plenty of evidence. And a little thing called google will help you find it: https://www.google.com/search?q=scientific+evidence+supporting+masksA pretty cool video demonstration of mask v no mask here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZ66wJFD3bs&ab_channel=TheSlowMoGuysAnd if you still don't believe Masks can save lives, you're probably an idiot and beyond hope.And if you're just here to wind people up, how about pack it in being a moron.
Let me ask you a question sha66y,When you're driving your car do you stop at red lights, allow pedestrians to cross on a pelican crossing, drive on the left, drive the right way on motorways etc? If yes, why do you do that? Because of the rules of the road of course, and those rules exist so that we don't have accidents and kill people. So, its OK to observe those rules that the Government lay down, but its not OK during a pandemic to follow the rules and save peoples lives? Why is that?
Quote from: silent majority on December 10, 2020, 05:45:36 pmLet me ask you a question sha66y,When you're driving your car do you stop at red lights, allow pedestrians to cross on a pelican crossing, drive on the left, drive the right way on motorways etc? If yes, why do you do that? Because of the rules of the road of course, and those rules exist so that we don't have accidents and kill people. So, its OK to observe those rules that the Government lay down, but its not OK during a pandemic to follow the rules and save peoples lives? Why is that?Because those rules apply across the whole of the UK, ( Eng,Scot,Wal,Irl)they actually make sense and don’t keep changing on a whim...... Over to you! are you saying that all the rules you have been expected to observe make absolute sense, are you saying that being able to mix over Xmas is a great rule and the virus will overlook this because of the occasion, are you saying that all the problems caused financially and health wise are really worth it for a virus that affects less than 1% of those that are infected?I don’t expect you to question anything you are told by the Government or the mainstream media, however I find that whilst my head is out of my ass, I will continue to question every single ridiculous rule that changes depending on what day it is....
Talk Radio?Nearly as far to the right as LBC is to the left.I think you need to be a bit more selective.
Quote from: sha66y on December 10, 2020, 07:11:20 pmQuote from: silent majority on December 10, 2020, 05:45:36 pmLet me ask you a question sha66y,When you're driving your car do you stop at red lights, allow pedestrians to cross on a pelican crossing, drive on the left, drive the right way on motorways etc? If yes, why do you do that? Because of the rules of the road of course, and those rules exist so that we don't have accidents and kill people. So, its OK to observe those rules that the Government lay down, but its not OK during a pandemic to follow the rules and save peoples lives? Why is that?Because those rules apply across the whole of the UK, ( Eng,Scot,Wal,Irl)they actually make sense and don’t keep changing on a whim...... Over to you! are you saying that all the rules you have been expected to observe make absolute sense, are you saying that being able to mix over Xmas is a great rule and the virus will overlook this because of the occasion, are you saying that all the problems caused financially and health wise are really worth it for a virus that affects less than 1% of those that are infected?I don’t expect you to question anything you are told by the Government or the mainstream media, however I find that whilst my head is out of my ass, I will continue to question every single ridiculous rule that changes depending on what day it is.... 1% is still 75 million people dead if we let it go through the population of the world. Are you happy with that? You're also not taking into consideration the after affects of the virus. To me it makes sense to try and slow that number down until we've got a vaccine, which is what most of the countries have done. We've now got a vaccine rolling out so hopefully come February we'll slowly start seeing the numbers coming down. Do I agree with everything this governments done? Definitely not but that doesn't make Covid any less of a problem than it is.
Sigh... really?How about differing demographic profiles including age and ethnic mix.Levels of urbanisation vs ruralityAffluence (those in poorer areas more likely to live in houses of multiple occupancy)Levels of co-morbidity and industrial related disease.Just read any public health paper and even you will get it. If not you are simply argumentative for the sake of it
Quote from: PDS01 on December 11, 2020, 10:13:55 amSigh... really?How about differing demographic profiles including age and ethnic mix.Levels of urbanisation vs ruralityAffluence (those in poorer areas more likely to live in houses of multiple occupancy)Levels of co-morbidity and industrial related disease.Just read any public health paper and even you will get it. If not you are simply argumentative for the sake of itSo let me get this straight..You are saying that all of Scotland’s tier systems(5) and lock down rules are governed by the same “scientific evidence” that governs the rest of the UK?So we have 4 different sets of scientists giving different Scientific advice to 4 different countries? Bless ya ..... being frightened and directionless isn’t something to be embarrassed about, you are not alone ( unless the government tells you that the scientific evidence dictates otherwise) ....I’ll leave it there because I know that there are far too many of you’s
Quote from: sha66y on December 12, 2020, 10:44:12 amQuote from: PDS01 on December 11, 2020, 10:13:55 amSigh... really?How about differing demographic profiles including age and ethnic mix.Levels of urbanisation vs ruralityAffluence (those in poorer areas more likely to live in houses of multiple occupancy)Levels of co-morbidity and industrial related disease.Just read any public health paper and even you will get it. If not you are simply argumentative for the sake of itSo let me get this straight..You are saying that all of Scotland’s tier systems(5) and lock down rules are governed by the same “scientific evidence” that governs the rest of the UK?So we have 4 different sets of scientists giving different Scientific advice to 4 different countries? Bless ya ..... being frightened and directionless isn’t something to be embarrassed about, you are not alone ( unless the government tells you that the scientific evidence dictates otherwise) ....I’ll leave it there because I know that there are far too many of you’s Well there is dozens of other countries taking different approaches due to the different scientists advising and having different current levels of the virus.What is your end point of this anyway?
Sha66y.1) What do you mean by "underlying health conditionsThose who were seriously ill, those with chronic breathing problems...might stay old people who do tend to fall not that groupI’m sure that slogan was rolled out by tweety n valliant on many occasions.2) What do you mean by "the science does not support the measures"?
300 plus? Where is that figure from Sha66y?https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/deathsfromcovid19bothwithandwithoutunderlyinghealthconditionsAccording to this there were over 3000 by April