Why can't the club keep managers?

[Getridorit]

Fergie quit for no job
Mcann left for a basket case and got relegated.
Moore has left for a basket case, and will get relegated.

Not beyond the realms of possibility to wonder if more than meets the eye is occuring.
Could the insistence in 1 year rolling contracts be a contributing factor?

[Michael Shaw]

Moore, snake no 2. Snake is that Owl? So much for all the fans that backed him and thought he was wonderful. They know better now.

[VikingRich]

I posted this on another thread but what a lot of these managers don't realise is that the structure and support of the board and the stability of the club contributes to them being successful. They then leave and join (often) basket cases and fail. Some day we will get a manager that acknowledges that. We should not underestimate the power and support of a good board and management team to a team coach and manager.

[DonnyOsmond]

Fergie quit for no job
Mcann left for a basket case and got relegated.
Moore has left for a basket case, and will get relegated.

Not beyond the realms of possibility to wonder if more than meets the eye is occuring.
Could the insistence in 1 year rolling contracts be a contributing factor?

Do we want to A. Keep a manager who doesn't want to be here? B. Give a long contract to someone shit?

[Chris the Rover]

Well said VikingRich. I couldn’t agree more.

[NickDRFC]

I do think we play a risky game with the one year rolling contract. I know the reasoning, that it means our liability is limited if we were to sack a manager, but we aren’t a sacking club and if the club have faith in their process of recruitment then handing out a longer term contract would be a way of protecting that investment.

[Campsall rover]

If Managers are only in management for the compensation they might get then the game we all love is in a very sad place.

What other industries pay out 10’s and 100’s of thousands of pounds in compensation to reward failure.

This industry is totally crazy isn’t it?

[Pliskin]

It's certainly a concern that, while from the outside it ought to be seen as a decent job, it seems like whoever we appoint as manager can't wait to jump ship the first chance they get.

[Rovers Return]

Fergie quit for no job
Mcann left for a basket case and got relegated.
Moore has left for a basket case, and will get relegated.

Not beyond the realms of possibility to wonder if more than meets the eye is occuring.
Could the insistence in 1 year rolling contracts be a contributing factor?

Because ‘shock, horror’ ex footballers are not that blessed with brains nor loyalty and are brought up to be short sighted, dim, greedy bas**rds.

[Rovers Return]

It's certainly a concern that, while from the outside it ought to be seen as a decent job, it seems like whoever we appoint as manager can't wait to jump ship the first chance they get.

Jeez money

[Barmby Rover]

It isn't that the board don't give people time, but maybe they are not prepared to give them the money backing? As always, we want to keep Rovers as a tier three/four club.

[Rovers Return]

It isn't that the board don't give people time, but maybe they are not prepared to give them the money backing? As always, we want to keep Rovers as a tier three/four club.

What a load of tosh

[Donny Exile in York]

I concur with the opening post, what does this say and show about our intentions and ambitions, that yet another manager decides to jump ship to a basket case club? Money talks yes, what does it say about our ambitions? Ferguson said he wants to manage in the championship when he jumped ship.... what does that say and more recently McCann and Moore leaving say? Yes Moore was backed, and we are in difficult times, but we just lost our Captain to fund the January acquisitions, and we have dined out on the contacts and reputation of Moore to get in young quality players on loan from higher levels and develop them further.. what does the last 3 managers jumping ship represent about the club and ambitions, the managers thoughts of getting us into the championship and funding to support it...  can't just be a lack of loyalty on their part?!

[Chris the Rover]

Agreed RR. Utter rubbish.

[Filo]

It isn't that the board don't give people time, but maybe they are not prepared to give them the money backing? As always, we want to keep Rovers as a tier three/four club.

Rubbish , they backed him to the hilt in January!

[wing commander]

 It's very easy to come on here and blame the club on why this keeps happening. The reality is and always will be that while the people of Doncaster keep failing to get behind the club and actually turn up when we are allowed this will always be the case.

8000 people on a Saturday afternoon will never be enough to give the board the tools some of you scream for.

[DRNaith]

It's very easy to come on here and blame the club on why this keeps happening. The reality is and always will be that while the people of Doncaster keep failing to get behind the club and actually turn up when we are allowed this will always be the case.

8000 people on a Saturday afternoon will never be enough to give the board the tools some of you scream for.

Agreed. A few seasons in the Championship and the same people would be calling for a push to the Premier League.

[roversdude]

Moore was backed fully by the board, only 2 factors here money offered by Wendies, he is a one trick pony who can’t see a way of turning it round

[normal rules]

He will be judged solely on his ability to keep wendies in the championship.

[selby]

  Agents getting a slice has a lot to do with movement of managers and players.
  Add in this case a club grasping at straws spending money they haven't got again, and the fact our manager has done well and they have not got anything right for 25 years.
  We as a club get two sorts of managers, the ones that do well and other clubs want, and rarely nowadays poor ones we get rid of.
  Lets say Moore stopped and actually got us up, what future would he have? we can't compete if there is a cap at that level never mind without one, so if he got lucky one survival year then the chop and he is  out of work possibly, and after the last two years at least we control whether we have a manager in place for the start of next season, and hopefully will not be scrambling about again to get a team and  a manager in place before the start of next season.
  He might as well go for the money now and risk it, I wish him well, have confidence in Andy Butler, as a club we are what we are.

[Barmby Rover]

  Agents getting a slice has a lot to do with movement of managers and players.
  Add in this case a club grasping at straws spending money they haven't got again, and the fact our manager has done well and they have not got anything right for 25 years.
  We as a club get two sorts of managers, the ones that do well and other clubs want, and rarely nowadays poor ones we get rid of.
  Lets say Moore stopped and actually got us up, what future would he have? we can't compete if there is a cap at that level never mind without one, so if he got lucky one survival year then the chop and he is  out of work possibly, and after the last two years at least we control whether we have a manager in place for the start of next season, and hopefully will not be scrambling about again to get a team and  a manager in place before the start of next season.
  He might as well go for the money now and risk it, I wish him well, have confidence in Andy Butler, as a club we are what we are. Exactly tier 3/4

[Campsall rover]

  Agents getting a slice has a lot to do with movement of managers and players.
  Add in this case a club grasping at straws spending money they haven't got again, and the fact our manager has done well and they have not got anything right for 25 years.
  We as a club get two sorts of managers, the ones that do well and other clubs want, and rarely nowadays poor ones we get rid of.
  Lets say Moore stopped and actually got us up, what future would he have? we can't compete if there is a cap at that level never mind without one, so if he got lucky one survival year then the chop and he is  out of work possibly, and after the last two years at least we control whether we have a manager in place for the start of next season, and hopefully will not be scrambling about again to get a team and  a manager in place before the start of next season.
  He might as well go for the money now and risk it, I wish him well, have confidence in Andy Butler, as a club we are what we are.

DM is taking a massive risk with his career taking this job Brian. He could be out of work in 4/5 weeks.

Will he ever get a decent job again if he gets sacked at Wednesday.

[Filo]

  Agents getting a slice has a lot to do with movement of managers and players.
  Add in this case a club grasping at straws spending money they haven't got again, and the fact our manager has done well and they have not got anything right for 25 years.
  We as a club get two sorts of managers, the ones that do well and other clubs want, and rarely nowadays poor ones we get rid of.
  Lets say Moore stopped and actually got us up, what future would he have? we can't compete if there is a cap at that level never mind without one, so if he got lucky one survival year then the chop and he is  out of work possibly, and after the last two years at least we control whether we have a manager in place for the start of next season, and hopefully will not be scrambling about again to get a team and  a manager in place before the start of next season.
  He might as well go for the money now and risk it, I wish him well, have confidence in Andy Butler, as a club we are what we are.

DM is taking a massive risk with his career taking this job Brian. He could be out of work in 4/5 weeks.

Will he ever get a decent job again if he gets sacked at Wednesday.

I can only think he’s lost his marbles egged on by an unscrupulous agent

[the vicar]

It could be a lot of things, but it could be promised things and not delivered, not enough wages to keep them here. but, the think that is more of a worry for me is we are almost always left with nothing after it

[silent majority]

What would you all suggest then? That we employ managers that nobody else wants?

What it shows is we can attract great managers who other clubs envy, as a LG1 club we pay well, but its never just about money.

[River Don]

What about a Director of Football and headcoach?

Given,  managers leave so frequently, might it not give more stability?

[since-1969]

Fergie quit for no job
Mcann left for a basket case and got relegated.
Moore has left for a basket case, and will get relegated.

Not beyond the realms of possibility to wonder if more than meets the eye is occuring.
Could the insistence in 1 year rolling contracts be a contributing factor?

I’ve said it on here before , we are  pot less and in that I mean we are on a very short shoe string and managers need to explore options but the DRFC can’t or won’t put the finances at risk and any manager who is ambitious won’t come here !!

[silent majority]

What about a Director of Football and headcoach?

Given,  managers leave so frequently, might it not give more stability?

It's been discussed.

As I've mentioned numerous times Adam Henshall has been the key to our recent recruitment and therefore we are less reliant on a manager to have connections at other clubs. We just need a good coach.

[silent majority]

Fergie quit for no job
Mcann left for a basket case and got relegated.
Moore has left for a basket case, and will get relegated.

Not beyond the realms of possibility to wonder if more than meets the eye is occuring.
Could the insistence in 1 year rolling contracts be a contributing factor?

I’ve said it on here before , we are  pot less and in that I mean we are on a very short shoe string and managers need to explore options but the DRFC can’t or won’t put the finances at risk and any manager who is ambitious won’t come here !!

And not for the first time you'd be wrong.

[selby]

  Barnby Rover, you have just proved that pasts on here can be interfered with as myself and Hound have found out before has happened to posts we have put on this forum , Kindly DO NOT PUT WORDS INTO MY POSTS THAT I DISAGREE WITH.
  If you have an opinion please post it under your own handle.