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Quote from: silent majority on April 03, 2021, 10:32:11 amYet another thread about the board.Yet another thread that seems to think that managers leaving are the fault of the board. (It's not)Or players leaving who no longer wanted to play for the club. (It happens)They chose to appoint from within, the same thing we did the last time it happened. (with exceptional results) And yet it's this board that is keeping our club afloat during this pandemic. Isn't hindsight wonderful!SM I can't credit you enough with your staunch defence of the club and admitted challenging of them yourself of them in your meetings you have. You have mis-read my message though once again. Look at Charlton in particular with regards the managerial position. Same scenario as rovers yet they appoint a manager with experience of getting out of league one quickly and promptly.I'm not suggesting we could afford atkins but we could look to who is out there to get the momentum and experience into the team at this stage of the season.
Yet another thread about the board.Yet another thread that seems to think that managers leaving are the fault of the board. (It's not)Or players leaving who no longer wanted to play for the club. (It happens)They chose to appoint from within, the same thing we did the last time it happened. (with exceptional results) And yet it's this board that is keeping our club afloat during this pandemic. Isn't hindsight wonderful!
Quote from: silent majority on April 03, 2021, 11:12:55 amQuote from: Red wizard on April 03, 2021, 11:06:25 amHindsight is the best tool in the box. Even you must admit they have got this one wrong Martin.I don't doubt that Andy, but how were they to know?It worked before, handsomely.They wasnt to know. But hold your hands up and say we got it wrong and lets get somone in now to look what we have and plan for next season. This year has been very hard and this board have seen us through it. We are lucky to have them but if they dont change things and soon we will get beat almost every week and we will have that losing mentality.
Quote from: Red wizard on April 03, 2021, 11:06:25 amHindsight is the best tool in the box. Even you must admit they have got this one wrong Martin.I don't doubt that Andy, but how were they to know?It worked before, handsomely.
Hindsight is the best tool in the box. Even you must admit they have got this one wrong Martin.
Quote from: godlike1 on April 03, 2021, 07:07:28 pmQuote from: silent majority on April 03, 2021, 10:32:11 amYet another thread about the board.Yet another thread that seems to think that managers leaving are the fault of the board. (It's not)Or players leaving who no longer wanted to play for the club. (It happens)They chose to appoint from within, the same thing we did the last time it happened. (with exceptional results) And yet it's this board that is keeping our club afloat during this pandemic. Isn't hindsight wonderful!SM I can't credit you enough with your staunch defence of the club and admitted challenging of them yourself of them in your meetings you have. You have mis-read my message though once again. Look at Charlton in particular with regards the managerial position. Same scenario as rovers yet they appoint a manager with experience of getting out of league one quickly and promptly.I'm not suggesting we could afford atkins but we could look to who is out there to get the momentum and experience into the team at this stage of the season. I wasn't referring to you in particular godlike, it was just general reflection on all the posts that have suddenly sprung up about the competence of the board.
Quote from: silent majority on April 04, 2021, 09:51:08 amQuote from: godlike1 on April 03, 2021, 07:07:28 pmQuote from: silent majority on April 03, 2021, 10:32:11 amYet another thread about the board.Yet another thread that seems to think that managers leaving are the fault of the board. (It's not)Or players leaving who no longer wanted to play for the club. (It happens)They chose to appoint from within, the same thing we did the last time it happened. (with exceptional results) And yet it's this board that is keeping our club afloat during this pandemic. Isn't hindsight wonderful!SM I can't credit you enough with your staunch defence of the club and admitted challenging of them yourself of them in your meetings you have. You have mis-read my message though once again. Look at Charlton in particular with regards the managerial position. Same scenario as rovers yet they appoint a manager with experience of getting out of league one quickly and promptly.I'm not suggesting we could afford atkins but we could look to who is out there to get the momentum and experience into the team at this stage of the season. I wasn't referring to you in particular godlike, it was just general reflection on all the posts that have suddenly sprung up about the competence of the board.Martin, most of those posts have been from a very small number of posters.
Quote from: Draytonian III on April 03, 2021, 05:27:49 pmHow do you know about AB training sessions ? Perhaps your information is coming from a player who’s not in the first squad or some who’s not getting in the match day squad , or perhaps you’re making it up How do you know about AB training sessions ? Perhaps your information is coming from a player who’s not in the first squad or some who’s not getting in the match day squad , or perhaps you’re making it up
How do you know about AB training sessions ? Perhaps your information is coming from a player who’s not in the first squad or some who’s not getting in the match day squad , or perhaps you’re making it up
Quote from: Draytonian III on April 03, 2021, 05:27:49 pmQuote from: Draytonian III on April 03, 2021, 05:27:49 pmHow do you know about AB training sessions ? Perhaps your information is coming from a player who’s not in the first squad or some who’s not getting in the match day squad , or perhaps you’re making it up How do you know about AB training sessions ? Perhaps your information is coming from a player who’s not in the first squad or some who’s not getting in the match day squad , or perhaps you’re making it up I know because I have been told. I will put what I have been told. You dont have to believe what I put but I know what I'm putting is true.
Quote from: Bessie Red on April 04, 2021, 04:11:58 pmQuote from: Draytonian III on April 03, 2021, 05:27:49 pmQuote from: Draytonian III on April 03, 2021, 05:27:49 pmHow do you know about AB training sessions ? Perhaps your information is coming from a player who’s not in the first squad or some who’s not getting in the match day squad , or perhaps you’re making it up How do you know about AB training sessions ? Perhaps your information is coming from a player who’s not in the first squad or some who’s not getting in the match day squad , or perhaps you’re making it up I know because I have been told. I will put what I have been told. You dont have to believe what I put but I know what I'm putting is true.That's codswallop!The first thing AB did was put a different training structure in place and utilise the senior players to provide the assistance that the younger players needed. From what I understand Cantley Park is back on track.
Quote from: Red wizard on April 03, 2021, 10:34:56 pmQuote from: silent majority on April 03, 2021, 11:12:55 amQuote from: Red wizard on April 03, 2021, 11:06:25 amHindsight is the best tool in the box. Even you must admit they have got this one wrong Martin.I don't doubt that Andy, but how were they to know?It worked before, handsomely.They wasnt to know. But hold your hands up and say we got it wrong and lets get somone in now to look what we have and plan for next season. This year has been very hard and this board have seen us through it. We are lucky to have them but if they dont change things and soon we will get beat almost every week and we will have that losing mentality.You're looking for a knee jerk reaction though RW, and that isn't going to happen. If its next season that you're worried about then we have time to fix that don't we?
Quote from: silent majority on April 04, 2021, 09:53:22 amQuote from: Red wizard on April 03, 2021, 10:34:56 pmQuote from: silent majority on April 03, 2021, 11:12:55 amQuote from: Red wizard on April 03, 2021, 11:06:25 amHindsight is the best tool in the box. Even you must admit they have got this one wrong Martin.I don't doubt that Andy, but how were they to know?It worked before, handsomely.They wasnt to know. But hold your hands up and say we got it wrong and lets get somone in now to look what we have and plan for next season. This year has been very hard and this board have seen us through it. We are lucky to have them but if they dont change things and soon we will get beat almost every week and we will have that losing mentality.You're looking for a knee jerk reaction though RW, and that isn't going to happen. If its next season that you're worried about then we have time to fix that don't we? Was Butler always the succession plan if Moore left? Obviously nobody thought it would be as soon as it was but even if it was in a years time, was it always going to be AB?
I think the club could still have maintained their normal recruitment procedure while having butler in as interim, he would’ve been a leading candidate but still only been a candidate Announcing him until the end of the season is the opposite of the due diligence they usually carry out. We could’ve had an experienced manager in charge now, the cowleys look to have saved pompeys season, that could quite easily have been us
I don’t mean due diligence purely regarding butler, I mean the whole process of appointing a manager. I would’ve thought the correct due diligence would’ve been to have a look and see what’s available, the cowleys were available and would’ve been a great appointment. Butler could’ve been in charge for the last month or so as he has been but as it hasn’t worked we could’ve appointed the cowleys, as it is now, it hasn’t worked but we’ve put all our Eggs into butlers basket
Quote from: dickos1 on April 05, 2021, 12:01:10 pmI don’t mean due diligence purely regarding butler, I mean the whole process of appointing a manager. I would’ve thought the correct due diligence would’ve been to have a look and see what’s available, the cowleys were available and would’ve been a great appointment. Butler could’ve been in charge for the last month or so as he has been but as it hasn’t worked we could’ve appointed the cowleys, as it is now, it hasn’t worked but we’ve put all our Eggs into butlers basket But you're just looking at that in hindsight. At the point in time, we were on a bad run but if a new manager came in they may have looked to bring a new style of play to the team, making many changes which could have derailed our season. What the board possibly thought was we needed to get back to doing what we were doing in December and January, so appoint internally and hope we can get back on track.
Quote from: DonnyOsmond on April 05, 2021, 12:31:09 pmQuote from: dickos1 on April 05, 2021, 12:01:10 pmI don’t mean due diligence purely regarding butler, I mean the whole process of appointing a manager. I would’ve thought the correct due diligence would’ve been to have a look and see what’s available, the cowleys were available and would’ve been a great appointment. Butler could’ve been in charge for the last month or so as he has been but as it hasn’t worked we could’ve appointed the cowleys, as it is now, it hasn’t worked but we’ve put all our Eggs into butlers basket But you're just looking at that in hindsight. At the point in time, we were on a bad run but if a new manager came in they may have looked to bring a new style of play to the team, making many changes which could have derailed our season. What the board possibly thought was we needed to get back to doing what we were doing in December and January, so appoint internally and hope we can get back on track.I’m not looking at it with hindsight, I said on here the day he was appointed that I thought it was naive to appoint him straight away until the end of the season