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Quote from: Avsuptem on May 13, 2021, 07:27:23 amMaybe the reason DM brought in youngsters was because he genuinely thought that was the best use of the available budget ? It was the reason. It turned out to be a bad decision over the course of the season. That’s what managers live and die by. Hopefully the next one has better instincts
Maybe the reason DM brought in youngsters was because he genuinely thought that was the best use of the available budget ?
Quote from: drfchound on May 12, 2021, 09:47:28 pmInteresting that Hoden has written %u201CRarely had they (Rovers) blown teams away or thoroughly dominated games%u201D.It makes you wonder what some posters had seen that most other supporters (and Hoden apparently) hadn%u2019t.Selective memory perhaps.The article is a very good insight into what was going on during our collapse.Dead right, mate. I got poo-pooed on here by some posters for suggesting that Rovers had overachieved in the first half of the season, and had been hanging on in some games.It seems Hoden thought the same.
Interesting that Hoden has written %u201CRarely had they (Rovers) blown teams away or thoroughly dominated games%u201D.It makes you wonder what some posters had seen that most other supporters (and Hoden apparently) hadn%u2019t.Selective memory perhaps.The article is a very good insight into what was going on during our collapse.
What's lying beneath that comment about issues with time keeping?? Is it Moore not turning up on time? Or him letting players waltz in when they felt like it? Or something else?BobG
He was the manager SM, will have known about the situation as it arose and should have stamped it out immediately, that was his job, it looks like he shat the bed and buggered off and wasn't up to the job to me. We are well rid.
Quote from: scawsby steve on May 13, 2021, 01:38:37 amQuote from: drfchound on May 12, 2021, 09:47:28 pmInteresting that Hoden has written “Rarely had they (Rovers) blown teams away or thoroughly dominated games”.It makes you wonder what some posters had seen that most other supporters (and Hoden apparently) hadn’t.Selective memory perhaps.The article is a very good insight into what was going on during our collapse.Dead right, mate. I got poo-pooed on here by some posters for suggesting that Rovers had overachieved in the first half of the season, and had been hanging on in some games.It seems Hoden thought the same.We did totally outplay Charlton A, Bristol Rovers H and Ipswich H There were other games where we were pretty dominant also. The summing up by Hoden was very insightful though and is a very much in the main the way i see it also.
Quote from: drfchound on May 12, 2021, 09:47:28 pmInteresting that Hoden has written “Rarely had they (Rovers) blown teams away or thoroughly dominated games”.It makes you wonder what some posters had seen that most other supporters (and Hoden apparently) hadn’t.Selective memory perhaps.The article is a very good insight into what was going on during our collapse.Dead right, mate. I got poo-pooed on here by some posters for suggesting that Rovers had overachieved in the first half of the season, and had been hanging on in some games.It seems Hoden thought the same.
Interesting that Hoden has written “Rarely had they (Rovers) blown teams away or thoroughly dominated games”.It makes you wonder what some posters had seen that most other supporters (and Hoden apparently) hadn’t.Selective memory perhaps.The article is a very good insight into what was going on during our collapse.
Quote from: BobG on May 12, 2021, 10:18:00 pmWhat's lying beneath that comment about issues with time keeping?? Is it Moore not turning up on time? Or him letting players waltz in when they felt like it? Or something else?BobGI did try and hint at certain issues with DM during the season. In one particular instance I described him as 'too laid back' which was an understatement, but one I hoped people would grasp.
Quote from: Campsall rover on May 13, 2021, 09:15:05 amQuote from: scawsby steve on May 13, 2021, 01:38:37 amQuote from: drfchound on May 12, 2021, 09:47:28 pmInteresting that Hoden has written “Rarely had they (Rovers) blown teams away or thoroughly dominated games”.It makes you wonder what some posters had seen that most other supporters (and Hoden apparently) hadn’t.Selective memory perhaps.The article is a very good insight into what was going on during our collapse.Dead right, mate. I got poo-pooed on here by some posters for suggesting that Rovers had overachieved in the first half of the season, and had been hanging on in some games.It seems Hoden thought the same.We did totally outplay Charlton A, Bristol Rovers H and Ipswich H There were other games where we were pretty dominant also. The summing up by Hoden was very insightful though and is a very much in the main the way i see it also.Totally agree. The opinion that we were in such a strong position earlier in the season through nothing more than luck is quite wrong. We were playing very well, teams were nervous about facing us and the players were playing with confidence, effort and determination. However something occurred during February time which totally threw that on its head. I’m sure that Hoden is telling us what happened in his article, but I’ve always been shit at reading in between the lines!
Quote from: silent majority on May 13, 2021, 09:18:37 amQuote from: BobG on May 12, 2021, 10:18:00 pmWhat's lying beneath that comment about issues with time keeping?? Is it Moore not turning up on time? Or him letting players waltz in when they felt like it? Or something else?BobGI did try and hint at certain issues with DM during the season. In one particular instance I described him as 'too laid back' which was an understatement, but one I hoped people would grasp.Take away the fact he left, did the recruitment process fail in getting the right man? I never thought he was the right man but it was a situation where it was difficult not to appoint him, if that makes sense. He left WBA a side that although they were in an ok league position they were underperforming and I could tell from his interviews he was a blagger. There was never any depth to them.
Quote from: GazLaz on May 13, 2021, 10:25:44 amQuote from: silent majority on May 13, 2021, 09:18:37 amQuote from: BobG on May 12, 2021, 10:18:00 pmWhat's lying beneath that comment about issues with time keeping?? Is it Moore not turning up on time? Or him letting players waltz in when they felt like it? Or something else?BobGI did try and hint at certain issues with DM during the season. In one particular instance I described him as 'too laid back' which was an understatement, but one I hoped people would grasp.Take away the fact he left, did the recruitment process fail in getting the right man? I never thought he was the right man but it was a situation where it was difficult not to appoint him, if that makes sense. He left WBA a side that although they were in an ok league position they were underperforming and I could tell from his interviews he was a blagger. There was never any depth to them. I’d agree with this, I genuinely can’t see how he would have impressed with a job interview given how he came across in press interviews. As you say though, he was a big name and probably difficult to see past that. I’d have thought things like discipline would be covered in the interview as well but possibly not or he blagged his way around it. I wonder if he was ever brought to task on things like timekeeping - you’d hope so.I remember not long after he signed my dad had a chat with Andrew Watson who was pulling his hair out (not literally ) as the board had players lined up and Moore was dithering and the one holding up actually getting signings in, so I can totally believe he was too laid back.
Haha he definitely liked the phrase "in terms of"
Quote from: NickDRFC on May 13, 2021, 11:53:22 amQuote from: GazLaz on May 13, 2021, 10:25:44 amQuote from: silent majority on May 13, 2021, 09:18:37 amQuote from: BobG on May 12, 2021, 10:18:00 pmWhat's lying beneath that comment about issues with time keeping?? Is it Moore not turning up on time? Or him letting players waltz in when they felt like it? Or something else?BobGI did try and hint at certain issues with DM during the season. In one particular instance I described him as 'too laid back' which was an understatement, but one I hoped people would grasp.Take away the fact he left, did the recruitment process fail in getting the right man? I never thought he was the right man but it was a situation where it was difficult not to appoint him, if that makes sense. He left WBA a side that although they were in an ok league position they were underperforming and I could tell from his interviews he was a blagger. There was never any depth to them. I’d agree with this, I genuinely can’t see how he would have impressed with a job interview given how he came across in press interviews. As you say though, he was a big name and probably difficult to see past that. I’d have thought things like discipline would be covered in the interview as well but possibly not or he blagged his way around it. I wonder if he was ever brought to task on things like timekeeping - you’d hope so.I remember not long after he signed my dad had a chat with Andrew Watson who was pulling his hair out (not literally ) as the board had players lined up and Moore was dithering and the one holding up actually getting signings in, so I can totally believe he was too laid back.How many times were we pulling our hair out waiting for a signing that never happened, it was put down to DM knowing exactly who he wanted hmmmmm
Has no-one mentioned losing our skipper and most influential midfield player in all of this.Massive loss and inadequately replaced.