England/Euros Thread

[Pancho Regan]

The points about a slow tempo possession game not being exciting to watch are valid, the ones about Spain not creating much are nonsense. On another day they score two or three, they missed some great chances and the Swedish keeper made a few decent saves.

They are a team that’s had a horrific lead up to the tournament with the Covid issues so can only improve. They looked a very good team last night with plenty of improvement to come. Judging badly them because they failed to score in one game is nonsense.

But it was turgid, sterile, boring fare Gaz.
OK, they did create a few chances, but nothing like the number their possession should have produced.

And to be fair to Sweden, they missed the best chance of the second half so Spain could easily have lost that game 0-1.

But who was the "turgid, sterile, boring" team?.........Spain who tried to play football, or Sweden who just put 10 men behind the ball and hoped for a bit of luck?

I realise that’s a rhetorical question but for the avoidance of doubt, Spain’s style of play was boring and unimaginative in my opinion.

I’m watching France v Germany now and it’s not just a different kind of game, it’s almost a different sport to what I witnessed last night.
Energy, tempo, intensity, speed of thought and movement ... this is football I can enjoy.

I take your point that Sweden didn’t exactly play a ‘gung-ho’ style, but Spain looked very one-dimensional, pedestrian and bereft of ideas to me.

PS: Once SO’D got the players to understand what he wanted, and once the players developed and learned what was expected of them, I was treated to the best football I’ve ever seen from a Rovers team.

[RoversAlias]

I'm over-simplifying, but I think Spain's tiki-taka no longer rules the world because teams have adapted and the high press, high energy style is now preferred and often combats the patient build-up possession style very well.

Spain would look better with a David Villa or prime Fernando Torres up front in their team mind.

[River Don]

... Getting a bit tired of seeing great goals, celebrations, a quiet delay of a minute or two and the goal chalked off.

[drfchound]

Correct decisions tonight though RD.
Both disallowed French goals were offside on the through ball.

[DRCraig]

Must admit I enjoyed France v Germany. Ally McCoist is a brilliant pundit btw.

[River Don]

Correct decisions tonight though RD.
Both disallowed French goals were offside on the through ball.

Yes I know.

But it's how it happens.The process is not good.

[dickos1]

Strange scenario for us,
It’s a big advantage if we finish 2nd rather than top the group

[RedRover45]

Strange scenario for us,
It’s a big advantage if we finish 2nd rather than top the group

I agree, I noticed that a few days ago. Beat the Scots and throw it against the Czechs ?

[River Don]

There are apparently a lot of Scots who would not mind going out in the first round just so long as they beat England. At least that's what Pat Nevin reckons.

It'd be ironic if they got their way and it allowed England an easier path to progress.

[NickDRFC]

Strange scenario for us,
It’s a big advantage if we finish 2nd rather than top the group

I agree, I noticed that a few days ago. Beat the Scots and throw it against the Czechs ?

The way I see it is that to win a tournament you have to beat the best teams, particularly at the Euros with a more condensed cohort of quality teams. Let’s win our 3 group games and take that momentum onto the next stage.

[dickos1]

There is that view too,
But if we finish top we’re likely to be playing Germany or Portugal,
If we finish second we’re probably going to be playing Slovakia or Sweden.
For me I’d much rather be playing Germany or Portugal in a semi final rather than the first knockout stage

[Padge_DRFC]

2 best sides for me France and Portugal. Probably chuck Belgium in there. Like the final in the last 16. At least it's at home

[GazLaz]

Strange scenario for us,
It’s a big advantage if we finish 2nd rather than top the group

Will we still be playing at Wembley if we finish second though?

[RoversAlias]

Would we not have to play France in the Quarter Finals or something if we come 2nd in the group?

We have to accept that to win the tournament we must beat top teams. We've already beaten the World Cup finalists so no reason to shy away from facing better nations.

I saw nothing to be scared of from Portugal or Germany yesterday to be honest.

[dickos1]

Strange scenario for us,
It’s a big advantage if we finish 2nd rather than top the group

Will we still be playing at Wembley if we finish second though?

No Copenhagen

[Not Now Kato]

Strange scenario for us,
It’s a big advantage if we finish 2nd rather than top the group

Will we still be playing at Wembley if we finish second though?

No Copenhagen

 
Wonderful

[SydneyRover]

vidunderlig

[Pancho Regan]

Strange scenario for us,
It’s a big advantage if we finish 2nd rather than top the group

Will we still be playing at Wembley if we finish second though?

No Copenhagen

 
Wonderful

Very good NNK!

[DRCraig]

Going to watch Finland v Russia in a bit. On my own right now, So might as well. Been to the dentist. Had 2 fillings. Mouth is so numb, I cannot feel a thing.The football needs to be exciting.

[idler]

Going to watch Finland v Russia in a bit. On my own right now, So might as well. Been to the dentist. Had 2 fillings. Mouth is so numb, I cannot feel a thing.The football needs to be exciting.

Thought you were going to have some wisdom teeth put in. 

[Colemans Left Hook]

Going to watch Finland v Russia in a bit. On my own right now, So might as well. Been to the dentist. Had 2 fillings. Mouth is so numb, I cannot feel a thing.The football needs to be exciting.

please "bite your tongue" and refrain from telling us the personal details

[BillyStubbsTears]

Just caught up with the Germany-France highlights from last night.

Looks like Gosens has been trained by Harald Schumacher. How in God's name was he not sent off for that challenge on Pavard? An appallingly reckless challenge that could have been a career ender. And what the hell were the French medical team doing letting Pavard play on when he was knocked unconscious?

[DRCraig]

Who has the best kit in the Euros ?. I would say Macedonia home.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Did Dion Dublin ever play football? I'm assuming not if he thinks that wasn't a penalty to Czechia.

[RoversAlias]

Did Dion Dublin ever play football? I'm assuming not if he thinks that wasn't a penalty to Czechia.

Quite a lot are saying it shouldn't be a penalty for Czech Republic but to me it is, you can use your arms to jump but he had them up at his head height flailing, he has endangered Schick clearly. Nothing new from Lovren mind - I think England would have won more easily if he had played in Croatia's defence the other day personally.

[drfchound]

Divided opinion about a football decision, surely not.
I’ve seen them given and seen them denied.

[Filo]

Far too slow from England first half, Sterling off Grealish on for me

[PDX_Rover]

Meh.

[sha66y]

Utter bloody rubbish…….!!

[drfchound]

Scotland get a draw in their cup final.