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We should be looking to pin them back with possession they’ve no pace so if we keep them deep they shouldn’t offer much. They’ll be up for it though. Think Grealish would be a decent pick if we’re going to have lots of the ball. He’ll draw a lot of fouls and probably penalties if the Scots are too enthusiastic
I swear I cannot out into words how much I despise the Spanish form of football.85% possession. 3 shots on target. Technically refined but utterly sterile.I'd be tempted to bring in a basketball-type possession law. But f**k it, let's make it really bite. If you have possession of the ball for more than 2 minutes without shooting, your ball-holding midfielder has a toe amputated.
Scotland had their chances all right, 19 shots, but only 4 on target. Whereas the Czechs had 10 shots but had 7 on target.I’m afraid Marshall had two failings, for the first goal a failure to command his 6 yard box and for the second goal, go for a walkabout!Having said that, he made one or two really good saves.If the Scots run out of steam after 70 mins, like they did against the Czechs, then England could add to their goals for column.
I mean, Marquis wasn't exactly an innocent player himself in general. More players than not are "cheats" at times now. Ramsgate is a good keeper and to be fair, he's only going to be training and sitting on the bench anyway.
The points about a slow tempo possession game not being exciting to watch are valid, the ones about Spain not creating much are nonsense. On another day they score two or three, they missed some great chances and the Swedish keeper made a few decent saves.They are a team that’s had a horrific lead up to the tournament with the Covid issues so can only improve. They looked a very good team last night with plenty of improvement to come. Judging badly them because they failed to score in one game is nonsense.
Quote from: GazLaz on June 15, 2021, 10:37:42 amThe points about a slow tempo possession game not being exciting to watch are valid, the ones about Spain not creating much are nonsense. On another day they score two or three, they missed some great chances and the Swedish keeper made a few decent saves.They are a team that’s had a horrific lead up to the tournament with the Covid issues so can only improve. They looked a very good team last night with plenty of improvement to come. Judging badly them because they failed to score in one game is nonsense.But it was turgid, sterile, boring fare Gaz.OK, they did create a few chances, but nothing like the number their possession should have produced.And to be fair to Sweden, they missed the best chance of the second half so Spain could easily have lost that game 0-1.
Quote from: Pancho Regan on June 15, 2021, 12:54:29 pmQuote from: GazLaz on June 15, 2021, 10:37:42 amThe points about a slow tempo possession game not being exciting to watch are valid, the ones about Spain not creating much are nonsense. On another day they score two or three, they missed some great chances and the Swedish keeper made a few decent saves.They are a team that’s had a horrific lead up to the tournament with the Covid issues so can only improve. They looked a very good team last night with plenty of improvement to come. Judging badly them because they failed to score in one game is nonsense.But it was turgid, sterile, boring fare Gaz.OK, they did create a few chances, but nothing like the number their possession should have produced.And to be fair to Sweden, they missed the best chance of the second half so Spain could easily have lost that game 0-1.Possession is not only a means to creating goal scoring opportunities, controlling the game like they do also potentially limits the number of opportunities the opposition have to create chances. Sweden had a couple of good opportunities I agree, the Spanish defence is poor, the possession is as much about protecting them as it is creating chances I think.
I mean, Marquis wasn't exactly an innocent player himself in general. More players than not are "cheats" at times now. Ramsdale is a good keeper and to be fair, he's only going to be training and sitting on the bench anyway.
Even if the ref got duped, WTF was the linesman doing?
Quote from: drfchound on June 15, 2021, 01:40:33 pmEven if the ref got duped, WTF was the linesman doing?The ref was nearer than the linesman if I remember rightly. We were at the other end and it didn’t even look like a foul from there. The ref was as bad as our performance that day. The only good thing that day was their social club with real ale on tap.
Quote from: GazLaz on June 15, 2021, 01:16:11 pmQuote from: Pancho Regan on June 15, 2021, 12:54:29 pmQuote from: GazLaz on June 15, 2021, 10:37:42 amThe points about a slow tempo possession game not being exciting to watch are valid, the ones about Spain not creating much are nonsense. On another day they score two or three, they missed some great chances and the Swedish keeper made a few decent saves.They are a team that’s had a horrific lead up to the tournament with the Covid issues so can only improve. They looked a very good team last night with plenty of improvement to come. Judging badly them because they failed to score in one game is nonsense.But it was turgid, sterile, boring fare Gaz.OK, they did create a few chances, but nothing like the number their possession should have produced.And to be fair to Sweden, they missed the best chance of the second half so Spain could easily have lost that game 0-1.Possession is not only a means to creating goal scoring opportunities, controlling the game like they do also potentially limits the number of opportunities the opposition have to create chances. Sweden had a couple of good opportunities I agree, the Spanish defence is poor, the possession is as much about protecting them as it is creating chances I think. The problem is that it destroys the concept of football as a visceral experience. It throttles the ebb and flow from the game, which becomes as sterile as a game of chess. The attraction is cerebral, not physical. Admiring the organisation and discipline, rather then the spontaneous and instinctive. Personally, that is not what I want from football.
Quote from: idler on June 15, 2021, 01:50:53 pmQuote from: drfchound on June 15, 2021, 01:40:33 pmEven if the ref got duped, WTF was the linesman doing?The ref was nearer than the linesman if I remember rightly. We were at the other end and it didn’t even look like a foul from there. The ref was as bad as our performance that day. The only good thing that day was their social club with real ale on tap.That’s how I remember it - the ref had a decent view and wasn’t far away.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on June 15, 2021, 01:28:37 pmQuote from: GazLaz on June 15, 2021, 01:16:11 pmQuote from: Pancho Regan on June 15, 2021, 12:54:29 pmQuote from: GazLaz on June 15, 2021, 10:37:42 amThe points about a slow tempo possession game not being exciting to watch are valid, the ones about Spain not creating much are nonsense. On another day they score two or three, they missed some great chances and the Swedish keeper made a few decent saves.They are a team that’s had a horrific lead up to the tournament with the Covid issues so can only improve. They looked a very good team last night with plenty of improvement to come. Judging badly them because they failed to score in one game is nonsense.But it was turgid, sterile, boring fare Gaz.OK, they did create a few chances, but nothing like the number their possession should have produced.And to be fair to Sweden, they missed the best chance of the second half so Spain could easily have lost that game 0-1.Possession is not only a means to creating goal scoring opportunities, controlling the game like they do also potentially limits the number of opportunities the opposition have to create chances. Sweden had a couple of good opportunities I agree, the Spanish defence is poor, the possession is as much about protecting them as it is creating chances I think. The problem is that it destroys the concept of football as a visceral experience. It throttles the ebb and flow from the game, which becomes as sterile as a game of chess. The attraction is cerebral, not physical. Admiring the organisation and discipline, rather then the spontaneous and instinctive. Personally, that is not what I want from football.I tend to agree with that.
Quote from: Pancho Regan on June 15, 2021, 12:54:29 pmQuote from: GazLaz on June 15, 2021, 10:37:42 amThe points about a slow tempo possession game not being exciting to watch are valid, the ones about Spain not creating much are nonsense. On another day they score two or three, they missed some great chances and the Swedish keeper made a few decent saves.They are a team that’s had a horrific lead up to the tournament with the Covid issues so can only improve. They looked a very good team last night with plenty of improvement to come. Judging badly them because they failed to score in one game is nonsense.But it was turgid, sterile, boring fare Gaz.OK, they did create a few chances, but nothing like the number their possession should have produced.And to be fair to Sweden, they missed the best chance of the second half so Spain could easily have lost that game 0-1.But who was the "turgid, sterile, boring" team?.........Spain who tried to play football, or Sweden who just put 10 men behind the ball and hoped for a bit of luck?
Changing the subject. Why do footballers always have to answer a question with.... Yeh no. It almost as annoying as... So