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As I say above it's not sometthing I particuarly agree with or think is necessary for this country but which fascist policy are you refering to Ldr?The ones limiting political protest, restrictions on the ability to vote or placing political appointees to run the media and media regulator? I don't know of one fascist regime that introduced laws on vaccination - but all of them had laws on the above? Happy tto be enlightend tho?You can't serve in the UK military unless you have compulsory vaccinations btw? Are they fascist?
Thought this warranted a separate thread from the broad (excellent) thread on Covid in general.Over in the US Joe Biden has announced a new law to encourage unvaccinated workers to get jabbed. Employees must prove they are vaccinated OR get tested every week. Failure to do so can lead to dismissal.Not a fan of diminishing workers rights per se but think this proposal is excellent. Frankly in these extreme circumstances people deserve to have their rights diminished where their own actions endanger others.I know the US has a bigger problem (esp certain states) in getting people vaccinated than here but I would be in favour of such a law in the UK.Not just to encourage increased vaccination rates but morally why should we simply allow people to put their work colleagues and their families at risk? Clinically vulnerable and relatives of the vulnerable need to work like anyone else it is simply wrong that their health should be put at risk by the selfishness of workmates.
Quote from: wilts rover on September 11, 2021, 09:24:57 amAs I say above it's not sometthing I particuarly agree with or think is necessary for this country but which fascist policy are you refering to Ldr?The ones limiting political protest, restrictions on the ability to vote or placing political appointees to run the media and media regulator? I don't know of one fascist regime that introduced laws on vaccination - but all of them had laws on the above? Happy tto be enlightend tho?You can't serve in the UK military unless you have compulsory vaccinations btw? Are they fascist?All of the above Wilts, we have been sleep walking into this
The policy in the US I'm advocating does not make vaccination mandatory though it does encourage it. I don't see what is 'fascist' about insisting people have a simple test for a very dangerous and transmissible disease before mixing with others at the work place where those people have freely chosen not to protect themselves. Is Joe Biden a fascist then? Really??Wilts - I probably would agree with an awful lot of your criticisms of the current Government esp around dealing with the pandemic plus the latest NI tax rise for instance. But to tie support for leaving the EU to fascism is just errant nonsense. Just because you fervently disagree with a policy (as is your right) does not make that policy 'fascist'. The reason people voted to leave the EU was to restore democratic rights - the very opposite of what a true fascist would advocate.
Stamping out polio and smallpox was so fascistic.
Quote from: Ldr on September 11, 2021, 10:18:29 amQuote from: wilts rover on September 11, 2021, 09:24:57 amAs I say above it's not sometthing I particuarly agree with or think is necessary for this country but which fascist policy are you refering to Ldr?The ones limiting political protest, restrictions on the ability to vote or placing political appointees to run the media and media regulator? I don't know of one fascist regime that introduced laws on vaccination - but all of them had laws on the above? Happy tto be enlightend tho?You can't serve in the UK military unless you have compulsory vaccinations btw? Are they fascist?All of the above Wilts, we have been sleep walking into this Thanks Ldr. I hope you will excuse me from your allegations of sleep walking into it - as I have been pointing out the fascist moves of this Vote Leave government since Johnson beacme PM and normalised lying 2 years ago.
Bless, you still think all this is about a virus
Quote from: Ldr on September 11, 2021, 01:31:10 pmBless, you still think all this is about a virusf**king hell, when did David Icke join the forum?
Quote from: DonnyOsmond on September 11, 2021, 01:32:04 pmQuote from: Ldr on September 11, 2021, 01:31:10 pmBless, you still think all this is about a virusf**king hell, when did David Icke join the forum?Put jew instead of unvaccinated and see if you are still comfortable with what’s going on
Quote from: DonnyOsmond on September 11, 2021, 01:32:04 pmQuote from: Ldr on September 11, 2021, 01:31:10 pmBless, you still think all this is about a virusf**king hell, when did David Icke join the forum?Are you saying you are not prepared to look beyond this insinuation? People tend to wheel out the David Icke and Conspiracy angle when a nerve is touched……Just out of interest and a genuine question to boot:Where do you think this Virus originated and how?…….go on….have a go!
Quote from: Ldr on September 11, 2021, 01:33:52 pmQuote from: DonnyOsmond on September 11, 2021, 01:32:04 pmQuote from: Ldr on September 11, 2021, 01:31:10 pmBless, you still think all this is about a virusf**king hell, when did David Icke join the forum?Put jew instead of unvaccinated and see if you are still comfortable with what’s going onThey want the Jews to either become vaccinated or take a weekly test for Covid so to protect everyone and to hopefully root out a virus killing thousands?
Quote from: sha66y on September 11, 2021, 01:40:27 pmQuote from: DonnyOsmond on September 11, 2021, 01:32:04 pmQuote from: Ldr on September 11, 2021, 01:31:10 pmBless, you still think all this is about a virusf**king hell, when did David Icke join the forum?Are you saying you are not prepared to look beyond this insinuation? People tend to wheel out the David Icke and Conspiracy angle when a nerve is touched……Just out of interest and a genuine question to boot:Where do you think this Virus originated and how?…….go on….have a go!the brick shithouse in the corner at belle view?
Quote from: DonnyOsmond on September 11, 2021, 01:39:02 pmQuote from: Ldr on September 11, 2021, 01:33:52 pmQuote from: DonnyOsmond on September 11, 2021, 01:32:04 pmQuote from: Ldr on September 11, 2021, 01:31:10 pmBless, you still think all this is about a virusf**king hell, when did David Icke join the forum?Put jew instead of unvaccinated and see if you are still comfortable with what’s going onThey want the Jews to either become vaccinated or take a weekly test for Covid so to protect everyone and to hopefully root out a virus killing thousands?You’re happy with the concept of mandatory vaccinations and the segregation of society? You are happy with the march towards a medical apartheid? You’re happy with this in the name of a virus that most people don’t know they have unless tested? You’re happy with this in the face of the increased risks documented for teenagers, especially male teenagers? Ever asked yourself how they got away with their policies in Germany in the 30s? All you have to do is look in the mirror. Yes there is a virus killing people, no it is not as deadly as the perception people have is. The vast, vast majority of deaths were in people that had co-morbidities. I would wager that COVID alone has killed no more than 5k in the uk, the rest it’s broke the camels back, severe influenza can do the same. The measures far outweigh the problem which is why I object. Imagine going after a fly with a bazooka