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Quote from: dickos1 on October 27, 2021, 12:00:14 amQuote from: Pliskin on October 26, 2021, 11:46:28 pmWe had plenty of the ball but we are utterly clueless with it. We still seem to barely have any idea of how to get players into threatening positions with the ball often enough to actually expect goals. There is no creativity and no movement. I honestly could not see us scoring, this time at home against a depleted Cambridge side. Thank f**k for Ethan Galbraith whose quality got us an equaliser out of nothing. If this is considered to be a positive performance then it just goes to show how far standards have fallen.I think you need to sort out your expectations mate. We’ve been bottom of the league for most of this season, we’ve just got 4 points from two games, we dominated both games, and you’re going on like we’ve lost them both.Believe me, my expectations couldn't get much lower after watching this lot this season.Clearly not as low as yours, however. I mean expecting a football team to actually look capable of creating a chance to score a goal on a semi-regular basis? What an unreasonable bas**rd I am.
Quote from: Pliskin on October 26, 2021, 11:46:28 pmWe had plenty of the ball but we are utterly clueless with it. We still seem to barely have any idea of how to get players into threatening positions with the ball often enough to actually expect goals. There is no creativity and no movement. I honestly could not see us scoring, this time at home against a depleted Cambridge side. Thank f**k for Ethan Galbraith whose quality got us an equaliser out of nothing. If this is considered to be a positive performance then it just goes to show how far standards have fallen.I think you need to sort out your expectations mate. We’ve been bottom of the league for most of this season, we’ve just got 4 points from two games, we dominated both games, and you’re going on like we’ve lost them both.
We had plenty of the ball but we are utterly clueless with it. We still seem to barely have any idea of how to get players into threatening positions with the ball often enough to actually expect goals. There is no creativity and no movement. I honestly could not see us scoring, this time at home against a depleted Cambridge side. Thank f**k for Ethan Galbraith whose quality got us an equaliser out of nothing. If this is considered to be a positive performance then it just goes to show how far standards have fallen.
It’s the movement, or lack of, that is the problem. No one in that front line shows for the ball. They all just run forward in a straight line away from the ball. They really aren’t very intelligent or haven’t been coached very well. That’s why the play slows down because there are so few options to pass to.
It%u2019s the movement, or lack of, that is the problem. No one in that front line shows for the ball. They all just run forward in a straight line away from the ball. They really aren%u2019t very intelligent or haven%u2019t been coached very well. That%u2019s why the play slows down because there are so few options to pass to.
Quote from: Cramby10 on October 27, 2021, 08:39:00 amIt%u2019s the movement, or lack of, that is the problem. No one in that front line shows for the ball. They all just run forward in a straight line away from the ball. They really aren%u2019t very intelligent or haven%u2019t been coached very well. That%u2019s why the play slows down because there are so few options to pass to.Agree Cramby. It is intelligence i think. Sure Wellens and Hunt are good coaches and they spend many hours on the training ground working with the players on defence and offence. RW is having to it seem coach the players from the sidelines during the matches. He should not be having to do that. Is it because he needs to or is it because he just cannot help himself and it is having a detrimental effect on the players? Yesterday was a game we should have won but we make life so difficult for ourselves the way we play at times. The shackles came off on Saturday but seemed to be back on again to a certain extent last night. Giving away a goal after 7 mins did not help and gave Cambridge something to hang on to. We have decent players for this level but they need to put brain into gear, be more intelligent and be braver on the ball. If we do that week in week out we will finish comfortably in mid table. If we play as we did 1st half last night week in week out we will get relegated imo.
I’m a bit frustrated with the Bostock sub.I’d have been tempted to take off a defender and throw Cukur on. Think we lost a bit in midfield when we should have been going at it for the win.
Quote from: Campsall rover on October 27, 2021, 09:55:25 amQuote from: Cramby10 on October 27, 2021, 08:39:00 amIt%u2019s the movement, or lack of, that is the problem. No one in that front line shows for the ball. They all just run forward in a straight line away from the ball. They really aren%u2019t very intelligent or haven%u2019t been coached very well. That%u2019s why the play slows down because there are so few options to pass to.Agree Cramby. It is intelligence i think. Sure Wellens and Hunt are good coaches and they spend many hours on the training ground working with the players on defence and offence. RW is having to it seem coach the players from the sidelines during the matches. He should not be having to do that. Is it because he needs to or is it because he just cannot help himself and it is having a detrimental effect on the players? Yesterday was a game we should have won but we make life so difficult for ourselves the way we play at times. The shackles came off on Saturday but seemed to be back on again to a certain extent last night. Giving away a goal after 7 mins did not help and gave Cambridge something to hang on to. We have decent players for this level but they need to put brain into gear, be more intelligent and be braver on the ball. If we do that week in week out we will finish comfortably in mid table. If we play as we did 1st half last night week in week out we will get relegated imo.That pot brain might be the problem
Quote from: mushRTID on October 26, 2021, 10:46:49 pmI’m a bit frustrated with the Bostock sub.I’d have been tempted to take off a defender and throw Cukur on. Think we lost a bit in midfield when we should have been going at it for the win.Bostock got a 4 from Hodman at DFP...https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/doncaster-rovers-player-ratings-from-the-comeback-draw-with-cambridge-united-3433824?itm_source=parsely-api
Quote from: mushRTID on October 26, 2021, 10:46:49 pmI’m a bit frustrated with the Bostock sub.I’d have been tempted to take off a defender and throw Cukur on. Think we lost a bit in midfield when we should have been going at it for the win.Bostock got a 4 from Hodman at DFP...https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/doncaster-rovers-player-ratings-from-the-comeback-draw-with-cambridge-united-3433824?itm_source=parsely-apiThe same as Gardner? Very harsh
Quote from: Metalmicky on October 27, 2021, 10:15:05 amQuote from: mushRTID on October 26, 2021, 10:46:49 pmI’m a bit frustrated with the Bostock sub.I’d have been tempted to take off a defender and throw Cukur on. Think we lost a bit in midfield when we should have been going at it for the win.Bostock got a 4 from Hodman at DFP...https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/doncaster-rovers-player-ratings-from-the-comeback-draw-with-cambridge-united-3433824?itm_source=parsely-apiBostock wasn’t as good as he was on Saturday but he enables us to control games a bit, albeit at a slow pace. We can’t afford for games to be like basketball matches though can we. He’s also got the most interceptions per game in L1 as his intelligence and positioning is elite. He also has the highest forward pass accuracy in the division. He obviously had his negatives, like his recovery pace is non existent and he doesn’t particularly like a challenge but everyone crying out for a “mister” is simplifying things a bit too much I think.
Quote from: Pliskin on October 27, 2021, 12:51:24 amQuote from: dickos1 on October 27, 2021, 12:00:14 amQuote from: Pliskin on October 26, 2021, 11:46:28 pmWe had plenty of the ball but we are utterly clueless with it. We still seem to barely have any idea of how to get players into threatening positions with the ball often enough to actually expect goals. There is no creativity and no movement. I honestly could not see us scoring, this time at home against a depleted Cambridge side. Thank f**k for Ethan Galbraith whose quality got us an equaliser out of nothing. If this is considered to be a positive performance then it just goes to show how far standards have fallen.I think you need to sort out your expectations mate. We’ve been bottom of the league for most of this season, we’ve just got 4 points from two games, we dominated both games, and you’re going on like we’ve lost them both.Believe me, my expectations couldn't get much lower after watching this lot this season.Clearly not as low as yours, however. I mean expecting a football team to actually look capable of creating a chance to score a goal on a semi-regular basis? What an unreasonable bas**rd I am.We created enough chances last night to win comfortably
Quote from: dickos1 on October 27, 2021, 06:16:35 amQuote from: Pliskin on October 27, 2021, 12:51:24 amQuote from: dickos1 on October 27, 2021, 12:00:14 amQuote from: Pliskin on October 26, 2021, 11:46:28 pmWe had plenty of the ball but we are utterly clueless with it. We still seem to barely have any idea of how to get players into threatening positions with the ball often enough to actually expect goals. There is no creativity and no movement. I honestly could not see us scoring, this time at home against a depleted Cambridge side. Thank f**k for Ethan Galbraith whose quality got us an equaliser out of nothing. If this is considered to be a positive performance then it just goes to show how far standards have fallen.I think you need to sort out your expectations mate. We’ve been bottom of the league for most of this season, we’ve just got 4 points from two games, we dominated both games, and you’re going on like we’ve lost them both.Believe me, my expectations couldn't get much lower after watching this lot this season.Clearly not as low as yours, however. I mean expecting a football team to actually look capable of creating a chance to score a goal on a semi-regular basis? What an unreasonable bas**rd I am.We created enough chances last night to win comfortablyNo we didn’t. That’s the whole point. We dominated possession but how many good chances did we actually create? Their keeper had a very quiet away day.
Quote from: Campsall rover on October 27, 2021, 03:47:17 pmQuote from: dickos1 on October 27, 2021, 06:16:35 amQuote from: Pliskin on October 27, 2021, 12:51:24 amQuote from: dickos1 on October 27, 2021, 12:00:14 amQuote from: Pliskin on October 26, 2021, 11:46:28 pmWe had plenty of the ball but we are utterly clueless with it. We still seem to barely have any idea of how to get players into threatening positions with the ball often enough to actually expect goals. There is no creativity and no movement. I honestly could not see us scoring, this time at home against a depleted Cambridge side. Thank f**k for Ethan Galbraith whose quality got us an equaliser out of nothing. If this is considered to be a positive performance then it just goes to show how far standards have fallen.I think you need to sort out your expectations mate. We’ve been bottom of the league for most of this season, we’ve just got 4 points from two games, we dominated both games, and you’re going on like we’ve lost them both.Believe me, my expectations couldn't get much lower after watching this lot this season.Clearly not as low as yours, however. I mean expecting a football team to actually look capable of creating a chance to score a goal on a semi-regular basis? What an unreasonable bas**rd I am.We created enough chances last night to win comfortablyNo we didn’t. That’s the whole point. We dominated possession but how many good chances did we actually create? Their keeper had a very quiet away day. We’ve scored 4 goals in two games. You’d take that rate over a full season.
Quote from: dickos1 on October 27, 2021, 12:00:14 amQuote from: Pliskin on October 26, 2021, 11:46:28 pmWe had plenty of the ball but we are utterly clueless with it. We still seem to barely have any idea of how to get players into threatening positions with the ball often enough to actually expect goals. There is no creativity and no movement. I honestly could not see us scoring, this time at home against a depleted Cambridge side. Thank f**k for Ethan Galbraith whose quality got us an equaliser out of nothing. If this is considered to be a positive performance then it just goes to show how far standards have fallen.I think you need to sort out your expectations mate. We’ve been bottom of the league for most of this season, we’ve just got 4 points from two games, we dominated both games, and you’re going on like we’ve lost them both.No good dominating games if you don’t win especially at home. What is the point of 65% possession if you don’t shoot. If you don’t create goal scoring opportunities then you may as well have 20% possession. It is what you do with the ball that counts isn’t it. Not just passing it around for fun, what does that achieve?Surely dickos you can’t be happy with that 1st half last night. The tempo was so slow Cambridge must have thought we were giving them an early Christmas present. Oh silly me we did with that own goal. Seriously we were poor 1st half but once we got that equalizer we were visibly lifted and the tempo increased. But still much to work on with regards or getting quality delivery into the box. The delivery was not good. That’s why we had so few scoring opportunities. The important thing to me is we did not end up losing a game we should have won. Onwards and upwards. Need a point at Charlton now and 3 at Crewe.
Quote from: mushRTID on October 26, 2021, 10:46:49 pmI’m a bit frustrated with the Bostock sub.I’d have been tempted to take off a defender and throw Cukur on. Think we lost a bit in midfield when we should have been going at it for the win. Yeah we lost the ability to give the ball away and make stupid 2 yards passes!