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Quote from: selby on October 28, 2021, 08:48:12 amA good socialist is a good socialist until someone else's money runs out.Do you live by your political faith selby? do you drive on roads paid for by the masses, do you ring the police if you have a problem with oiks or do you call your private security contractor and so much more, tories are phonies, look how quickly they resort to socialism when it gets a bit hard.
A good socialist is a good socialist until someone else's money runs out.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on October 28, 2021, 02:03:55 pmQuote from: selby on October 28, 2021, 01:58:42 pmju Herbert, the 40's 50's and 60s generations were the best Britain has ever had, Just ask anybody who lived through those times, its the ones that followed who have made a mess of it and are digging even bigger holes as we speak. Eh up. It's Capstick Comes Home.We 'ad a lot of things back then that thi' dunt 'ave today. Rickets.Diphtheria.Hitler.100% employment.World Cup winners.Everything ridiculously cheap.
Quote from: selby on October 28, 2021, 01:58:42 pmju Herbert, the 40's 50's and 60s generations were the best Britain has ever had, Just ask anybody who lived through those times, its the ones that followed who have made a mess of it and are digging even bigger holes as we speak. Eh up. It's Capstick Comes Home.We 'ad a lot of things back then that thi' dunt 'ave today. Rickets.Diphtheria.Hitler.
ju Herbert, the 40's 50's and 60s generations were the best Britain has ever had, Just ask anybody who lived through those times, its the ones that followed who have made a mess of it and are digging even bigger holes as we speak.
Post ww2, three decades of socialism in the uk left us on the verge of being an economic dustbin on the global scale. The govt owned all majority industry such as auto and steel. Crushingly high tax rates on income and capital. Much of housing govt ownedTrade unions spending all their funds on political objectives such as controlling the Labour Party. . From 1950 to 1975, the U.K.’s investment and productivity record was the worst of any major industrial country. Trade-union demands increased the size of the public sector and public expenditures to 59 percent of GDP. Wage and benefits demands by organized labor led to continual strikes that paralyzed transportation and production. But workers were happy I suppose stood by their burning braziers day after day were they? The winter of 1975.piles of rubbish and rats in the street. Bodies unburied. This what socialism looks like.
Quote from: SydneyRover on October 28, 2021, 08:59:33 amQuote from: selby on October 28, 2021, 08:48:12 amA good socialist is a good socialist until someone else's money runs out.Do you live by your political faith selby? do you drive on roads paid for by the masses, do you ring the police if you have a problem with oiks or do you call your private security contractor and so much more, tories are phonies, look how quickly they resort to socialism when it gets a bit hard.That made me chuckle Sydney. I wonder what percentage of your posts are on politics compared to Rovers.im guessing its very high.
Perhaps the comparison is,The unionised blokes who were hanging around braziers, were fighting for stable, relatively well paid industrial jobs and the stability a council house offered.Where as their grandchildren in the new flexible workforce have very few protections, in low paid service sector work, living precariously in private rented accommodation.
Quote from: River Don on October 29, 2021, 12:11:32 amPerhaps the comparison is,The unionised blokes who were hanging around braziers, were fighting for stable, relatively well paid industrial jobs and the stability a council house offered.Where as their grandchildren in the new flexible workforce have very few protections, in low paid service sector work, living precariously in private rented accommodation.The council houses they were, in later years offered to buy for quite literally peanuts.
In 1950 the pop of the uk was around 50 million. Today’s it’s around 66 million. It predicted to be over 80 million by 2100. Just how many houses do you think we are able to build every year? It’s a controversial subject , and one that has been faced in much more populous areas of the world before. We need to stop growing the population. They won’t be talking about this at the COP summit though.
Great Britain is the 9th largest island in the world, yet the 3rd most populated. That inevitably brings problems in providing such as healthcare, housing, and decent employment.
The geographic constraint does intensify problems in congestion, water supply and pollution a bit more and I'd argue it loads these problems more heavily on the poorer sectors of society. But then these problems arise in hot spots in major cities on a very big island like Australia.I don't think the problem of population is particularly a national one but global. It's simply that were consuming so quickly and shitting out the effluent so hard, everything is rapidly deteriorating and it's getting harder and harder to ignore the fact.
Or does the fact that the UK ranked by population density around 50th in the world doesn't suit whatever point you are trying to make BB
Do we not need an increasing population to pay for our increasingly ageing population?