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Wellens needs time to get things right. The current issues can’t all be aligned to the manager. After losing Whiteman, both of the last two managers struggled, and now Wellens is finding it tough. If we sack him, the next one will struggle and if we sack them, so will the one after. You can’t just keep changing managers and expecting a bounce. We don’t have a strong squad. This is a long term rebuild and we have to back the manager we appointed. Some of the signings don’t look great, but it’s not been an easy task. We’re fishing in a restricted pool of what we can afford, and latterly (after failing to secure a range of forward targets) what was unattached. What happens if the next manager can’t sign top players either? Do we sack him and appoint another one? This is going to be a long, hard season. The club, fans, manager and players need to hold their nerve. I think we can stay up. Either way there’ll be lots of lessons to learn from it. I back Wellens to get it right in the long term, and that’s exactly why we appointed him.
Talking to a guy at a wedding tonight who has some connections with the board and they told him 3 months ago that they were gonna go with the youth players this year and drop to lg2 as they can be sustainable been a yo-yo club from lg1 and lg2 take from that what u want
Quote from: Jonathan on November 07, 2021, 12:51:09 pmWellens needs time to get things right. The current issues can’t all be aligned to the manager. After losing Whiteman, both of the last two managers struggled, and now Wellens is finding it tough. If we sack him, the next one will struggle and if we sack them, so will the one after. You can’t just keep changing managers and expecting a bounce. We don’t have a strong squad. This is a long term rebuild and we have to back the manager we appointed. Some of the signings don’t look great, but it’s not been an easy task. We’re fishing in a restricted pool of what we can afford, and latterly (after failing to secure a range of forward targets) what was unattached. What happens if the next manager can’t sign top players either? Do we sack him and appoint another one? This is going to be a long, hard season. The club, fans, manager and players need to hold their nerve. I think we can stay up. Either way there’ll be lots of lessons to learn from it. I back Wellens to get it right in the long term, and that’s exactly why we appointed him.Your logic is decent and plausible but it makes the assumption that RW has the managerial / man management skills and tactical nous to improve things. There are a lot of very experienced observers of the game and the club on this forum who have seen enough to believe otherwise.
Quote from: Avsuptem on November 07, 2021, 01:51:21 pmQuote from: Jonathan on November 07, 2021, 12:51:09 pmWellens needs time to get things right. The current issues can’t all be aligned to the manager. After losing Whiteman, both of the last two managers struggled, and now Wellens is finding it tough. If we sack him, the next one will struggle and if we sack them, so will the one after. You can’t just keep changing managers and expecting a bounce. We don’t have a strong squad. This is a long term rebuild and we have to back the manager we appointed. Some of the signings don’t look great, but it’s not been an easy task. We’re fishing in a restricted pool of what we can afford, and latterly (after failing to secure a range of forward targets) what was unattached. What happens if the next manager can’t sign top players either? Do we sack him and appoint another one? This is going to be a long, hard season. The club, fans, manager and players need to hold their nerve. I think we can stay up. Either way there’ll be lots of lessons to learn from it. I back Wellens to get it right in the long term, and that’s exactly why we appointed him.Your logic is decent and plausible but it makes the assumption that RW has the managerial / man management skills and tactical nous to improve things. There are a lot of very experienced observers of the game and the club on this forum who have seen enough to believe otherwise.If this forum was used as a guide we’d have a new manager literally every few games.
Quote from: donnyallday on November 06, 2021, 11:39:59 pmBlowing his pre season budget on poor signings OR Blowing his poor pre season budget on what he can attract.Coventry have the 3rd lowest budget in the championship. They sit 4th in the table. Whilst i concede we have small budget, it cant be lower than Accringtons, Cambridge, Morecambe etc.Wellens is under acheiving.
Blowing his pre season budget on poor signings OR Blowing his poor pre season budget on what he can attract.
Quote from: roversdude on November 07, 2021, 10:50:45 amQuote from: sha66y on November 07, 2021, 08:44:16 amThat Poll can’t work in that wording, you are asking for Rovers fans to actually wish for a loss, and unless we have the most moronic of supporters, that just won’t happen!Unfortunately we have an element of those cretinous moronsI know. Anyone who has a minority view is a cretinous moron naturally. We've seen it with Covid. If you aren't in the Governments, SAGE's, Medias and NHS pockets then you are a cretinous moron apparently. I'm voting for the cretinous moron party at the next election. No point in voting in this poll anyway because the next game that matters is Lincoln at home which we will lose anyway so we don't have to wish for a loss. It is inevitable.
Quote from: sha66y on November 07, 2021, 08:44:16 amThat Poll can’t work in that wording, you are asking for Rovers fans to actually wish for a loss, and unless we have the most moronic of supporters, that just won’t happen!Unfortunately we have an element of those cretinous morons
That Poll can’t work in that wording, you are asking for Rovers fans to actually wish for a loss, and unless we have the most moronic of supporters, that just won’t happen!
I don't think anyone will care much if we lose the next match with it being the pizza cup
I like the word “cretin” and also “ retard” ….but I love “ fcuktard” above all others!
Quote from: Padge_DRFC on November 07, 2021, 01:04:08 pmI don't think anyone will care much if we lose the next match with it being the pizza cupI care. Winning is a habit. Does not matter what the competition is. SOD won the JPT in his first season and that was the spring board to promotion the following season.It might be the Mickey Mouse Cup in the early stages, but if you get to the final it could be worth up to £500.000 to the club, dependant on the opposition and gate that brings.If we played Wednesday, Sunderland, Ipswich, Portsmouth, Charlton, Bradford City or one or two others your looking at a big pay day. Oh and the little matter of a trophy to put in the cabinet. Tues night should imo be taken very seriously.
I never complained about anything rr case of mistaken identity there I’m afraid
Quote from: silent majority on November 07, 2021, 04:09:31 amQuote from: anton123 on November 07, 2021, 12:39:49 amTalking to a guy at a wedding tonight who has some connections with the board and they told him 3 months ago that they were gonna go with the youth players this year and drop to lg2 as they can be sustainable been a yo-yo club from lg1 and lg2 take from that what u want That’s absolute, first class, rubbish.I just don’t understand why people fall for this claptrap.The jury's out given our league position and the calibre of our squad, transfer deadline debacle etc. Lets see at the end of the season shall we if we strengthen in January and stay up. In the championship we had Bramalls wealth with Watson and Ryan. In league one we had Bramall and Watson wealth. Now we only have Bramall. I regard you SM these days as a voice piece for the board and not the fans I'm afraid..
Quote from: anton123 on November 07, 2021, 12:39:49 amTalking to a guy at a wedding tonight who has some connections with the board and they told him 3 months ago that they were gonna go with the youth players this year and drop to lg2 as they can be sustainable been a yo-yo club from lg1 and lg2 take from that what u want That’s absolute, first class, rubbish.I just don’t understand why people fall for this claptrap.
Quote from: Prez on November 06, 2021, 11:51:57 pmQuote from: donnyallday on November 06, 2021, 11:39:59 pmBlowing his pre season budget on poor signings OR Blowing his poor pre season budget on what he can attract.Coventry have the 3rd lowest budget in the championship. They sit 4th in the table. Whilst i concede we have small budget, it cant be lower than Accringtons, Cambridge, Morecambe etc.Wellens is under acheiving. Not all about budget though, the teams you mentioned weren’t building from a squad of 7 players in the summer. They’ve had numerous seasons building
So does Richie having the backing of 97% of voters in this pollIRWT
Quote from: ColinDouglasHandshake on November 07, 2021, 11:19:28 amQuote from: roversdude on November 07, 2021, 10:50:45 amQuote from: sha66y on November 07, 2021, 08:44:16 amThat Poll can’t work in that wording, you are asking for Rovers fans to actually wish for a loss, and unless we have the most moronic of supporters, that just won’t happen!Oh just f**k off. Jesus. Sanctimonious dullard. Unfortunately we have an element of those cretinous moronsI know. Anyone who has a minority view is a cretinous moron naturally. We've seen it with Covid. If you aren't in the Governments, SAGE's, Medias and NHS pockets then you are a cretinous moron apparently. I'm voting for the cretinous moron party at the next election. No point in voting in this poll anyway because the next game that matters is Lincoln at home which we will lose anyway so we don't have to wish for a loss. It is inevitable.With that attitude not sure why you bother supporting Rovers. If we are going to lose every game what’s the point. What a shocking attitude. Supporters and supporters there are.
Quote from: roversdude on November 07, 2021, 10:50:45 amQuote from: sha66y on November 07, 2021, 08:44:16 amThat Poll can’t work in that wording, you are asking for Rovers fans to actually wish for a loss, and unless we have the most moronic of supporters, that just won’t happen!Oh just f**k off. Jesus. Sanctimonious dullard. Unfortunately we have an element of those cretinous moronsI know. Anyone who has a minority view is a cretinous moron naturally. We've seen it with Covid. If you aren't in the Governments, SAGE's, Medias and NHS pockets then you are a cretinous moron apparently. I'm voting for the cretinous moron party at the next election. No point in voting in this poll anyway because the next game that matters is Lincoln at home which we will lose anyway so we don't have to wish for a loss. It is inevitable.
Quote from: sha66y on November 07, 2021, 08:44:16 amThat Poll can’t work in that wording, you are asking for Rovers fans to actually wish for a loss, and unless we have the most moronic of supporters, that just won’t happen!Oh just f**k off. Jesus. Sanctimonious dullard. Unfortunately we have an element of those cretinous morons
Quote from: StocktonRover on November 07, 2021, 11:10:05 amQuote from: Cramby10 on November 07, 2021, 09:33:05 amHas anyone read his post match comments to Liam Hoden? At the end of the piece he said “we need people to manage their bodies better”! Is he actually digging the players out, again, for getting injured?Well unless the players are honest about their injuries, they end up starting a game and then pulling up shortly afterwards. Could he be referring to that instead of the negative slant you put on it?could be? It was only a question. You call it negative I call it an observation. There just seems to be theme of deflecting attention from himself to others.
Quote from: Cramby10 on November 07, 2021, 09:33:05 amHas anyone read his post match comments to Liam Hoden? At the end of the piece he said “we need people to manage their bodies better”! Is he actually digging the players out, again, for getting injured?Well unless the players are honest about their injuries, they end up starting a game and then pulling up shortly afterwards. Could he be referring to that instead of the negative slant you put on it?
Has anyone read his post match comments to Liam Hoden? At the end of the piece he said “we need people to manage their bodies better”! Is he actually digging the players out, again, for getting injured?
Why ? because we aren’t top of the league ? FFS give him chance, we’ve got 15 injured senior players at the moment a situation that has persisted throughout the season so far
At this time what the club needs more than anything is some continuity, we have had what, for the last 4 or 5 years of managers coming in, going, selling the stock and leaving us in the shit. The board decided on Wellens,they used their own methodology to secure him and will now want more than anything for him to build medium to long term a side that can compete at this level and with progression the level above. That remit is not something that can start and stop every close season like it has for the last number of years. This is the plan, all the "very experienced observers of the game and the club on this forum" are going to have to suck it up and allow RW the time to complete the job.He's going nowhere.