HS2

[albie]

I think this might be the interview Raven mentioned;
https://twitter.com/i/status/1461352276254097420

Victoria Derbyshire is probably on borrowed time at the BBC, what with doing her job properly and that!

I don't reckon she is that bothered.

[SydneyRover]

Then, Feb 2020, but we know that decisions are being made whether it is possible or not, whether there is genuine intention to go-ahead or not

''HS2 go-ahead controversial and difficult, admits Boris Johnson''

''Prime Minister Boris Johnson has announced that the controversial HS2 high-speed rail link will be built.

The first phase of the route will travel between London and Birmingham, with a second phase going to Manchester and Leeds''

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-51461597


Now, ''HS2 rail extension to Leeds scrapped amid promise to transform rail''

Not 18 months later .............

Accompanied with a whole new raft of johnson promises and guarantees that are not worth a cracker. Those in the magic circle know that the last person he speaks to is the one that carries sway.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-59334043?piano-footer

ammended

[BillyStubbsTears]

If only there was a photogenic, persuasive Tory backbencher holding the Govt to account over its promises to the North...

https://mobile.twitter.com/bphillipsonMP/status/1461328690940362756

[Axholme Lion]

I'm glad HS2 won't be coming. Good.
Stop vandalising the countryside for the benefit of people in cities.

[River Don]

If only there was a photogenic, persuasive Tory backbencher holding the Govt to account over its promises to the North...

https://mobile.twitter.com/bphillipsonMP/status/1461328690940362756

The Sunak footage is hilarious now.

[SydneyRover]

I'm glad HS2 won't be coming. Good.
Stop vandalising the countryside for the benefit of people in cities.

You mean those that generate wealth and buy ............. cars and stuff?

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

If only there was a photogenic, persuasive Tory backbencher holding the Govt to account over its promises to the North...

https://mobile.twitter.com/bphillipsonMP/status/1461328690940362756

His original points were pretty much spot on, so strange to not pursue it fully. Though the actual plans are not that far from the original on the so called NPR.

Equally amazing that Starmer has done a full turn aswell. He's gone from fierce HS2 critic to slamming the government all of a sudden.

[BillyStubbsTears]

When was Starmer a fierce critic of HS2 BFYP?

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

When was Starmer a fierce critic of HS2 BFYP?

https://twitter.com/Keir_Starmer/status/657539020533145600?t=-uTXL0P7BIh3i69ad7X3nA&s=19

That for starters. He also voted against it in parliament.  Amazing what becoming leader and political gain does to change your view.  Same bracket as Sunak clearly.

[drfchound]

Just waiting now for the spin.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Thanks BFYP. I knew he'd campaigned for improved payments for residents whose houses were affected but I'd not seen that he'd campaigned against the whole concept.

[drfchound]

Thanks BFYP. I knew he'd campaigned for improved payments for residents whose houses were affected but I'd not seen that he'd campaigned against the whole concept.

f**king hell, talk about blinkered!

[SydneyRover]

HS2 on steroids into Manchester

''Government planning ‘to put HS2 on stilts through Manchester’
Andy Burnham demands underground station for new route rather than cheaper series of viaducts''

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/nov/19/government-planning-to-put-hs2-on-stilts-through-manchester

[tyke1962]

Thanks BFYP. I knew he'd campaigned for improved payments for residents whose houses were affected but I'd not seen that he'd campaigned against the whole concept.

f**king hell, talk about blinkered!

I don't know which one is worse hound .

The Etonian entitled serial bullshyter  who everyone knew was a serial entitled bullshyter

Or

The one who looks and talks as though he's been through Eton plus a knighthood and serial bullshyte's .

If the bar gets any lower even these two snakes won't be able to crawl under it .

[drfchound]

Thanks BFYP. I knew he'd campaigned for improved payments for residents whose houses were affected but I'd not seen that he'd campaigned against the whole concept.

f**king hell, talk about blinkered!

I don't know which one is worse hound .

The Etonian entitled serial bullshyter  who everyone knew was a serial entitled bullshyter

Or

The one who looks and talks as though he's been through Eton plus a knighthood and serial bullshyte's .

If the bar gets any lower even these two snakes won't be able to crawl under it .

Agreed tyke.   Both very much the same in some respects.

[tyke1962]

Thanks BFYP. I knew he'd campaigned for improved payments for residents whose houses were affected but I'd not seen that he'd campaigned against the whole concept.

f**king hell, talk about blinkered!

I don't know which one is worse hound .

The Etonian entitled serial bullshyter  who everyone knew was a serial entitled bullshyter

Or

The one who looks and talks as though he's been through Eton plus a knighthood and serial bullshyte's .

If the bar gets any lower even these two snakes won't be able to crawl under it .

Agreed tyke.   Both very much the same in some respects.

Any Labour leader who accepts a knighthood for simply doing their job probably belongs in the Tory party in my opinion .

Apparently Keith doesn't like to be referred to as " Sir " .

So why accept the knighthood then you may ask yourself ?

[SydneyRover]

Thanks BFYP. I knew he'd campaigned for improved payments for residents whose houses were affected but I'd not seen that he'd campaigned against the whole concept.

f**king hell, talk about blinkered!

I don't know which one is worse hound .

The Etonian entitled serial bullshyter  who everyone knew was a serial entitled bullshyter

Or

The one who looks and talks as though he's been through Eton plus a knighthood and serial bullshyte's .

If the bar gets any lower even these two snakes won't be able to crawl under it .

Agreed tyke.   Both very much the same in some respects.

A lot of commenters are the same, small minded vindictive and childish, wouldn't you agree hound?

[drfchound]

I take it that you are referring to your own posts there.

[SydneyRover]

I take it that you are referring to your own posts there.

You actually hound you're one of the most childish people on the forum full stop, why do you need everything spelling out, just grow up.

[drfchound]

I take it that you are referring to your own posts there.

You actually hound you're one of the most childish people on the forum full stop, why do you need everything spelling out, just grow up.

Oh, the irony of that statement.

[SydneyRover]

I take it that you are referring to your own posts there.

You actually hound you're one of the most childish people on the forum full stop, why do you need everything spelling out, just grow up.

Oh, the irony of that statement.

no, the truth hound you're still a child

[drfchound]

I take it that you are referring to your own posts there.

You actually hound you're one of the most childish people on the forum full stop, why do you need everything spelling out, just grow up.

Oh, the irony of that statement.

no, the truth hound you're still a child

Haha.  Pick your teddies up before you go out.

[scawsby steve]

Bunter and Keith. Let's hope to f*ck they're both replaced before the next GE.

[drfchound]

    

[SydneyRover]

Bunter and Keith. Let's hope to f*ck they're both replaced before the next GE.

Who are you putting forward as replacements Steve?

[scawsby steve]

Bunter and Keith. Let's hope to f*ck they're both replaced before the next GE.

Who are you putting forward as replacements Steve?

Sunak's a shoe-in. Not sure about Labour, Andy Burnham will probably still be Manchester Mayor.

As long as Keith's out, as he won't get the votes in the North.

[SydneyRover]

Bunter and Keith. Let's hope to f*ck they're both replaced before the next GE.

Who are you putting forward as replacements Steve?

Sunak's a shoe-in. Not sure about Labour, Andy Burnham will probably still be Manchester Mayor.

As long as Keith's out, as he won't get the votes in the North.

Maybe you should explain what you are looking for in the next labour leader, what qualities would be acceptable to you, I/we can help you look. What do you want, someone more to the left? someone more qualified? what qualifications should they have? Do they have to be against foreign workers coming to this country? what policies should they be championing? Should they make a stand against police bias conscious or unconscious? there's plenty to think about Steve.

[Sprotyrover]

Bunter and Keith. Let's hope to f*ck they're both replaced before the next GE.

Who are you putting forward as replacements Steve?

Sunak's a shoe-in. Not sure about Labour, Andy Burnham will probably still be Manchester Mayor.

As long as Keith's out, as he won't get the votes in the North.

Maybe you should explain what you are looking for in the next labour leader, what qualities would be acceptable to you, I/we can help you look. What do you want, someone more to the left? someone more qualified? what qualifications should they have? Do they have to be against foreign workers coming to this country? what policies should they be championing? Should they make a stand against police bias conscious or unconscious? there's plenty to think about Steve.

Instead of making a pest of yourself on this thread kindly answer my question ...properly on the CCC Thread.

[SydneyRover]

Sprot, maybe you should get out of the bedroom more and see a bit of life.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Thanks BFYP. I knew he'd campaigned for improved payments for residents whose houses were affected but I'd not seen that he'd campaigned against the whole concept.

f**king hell, talk about blinkered!

I don't know which one is worse hound .

The Etonian entitled serial bullshyter  who everyone knew was a serial entitled bullshyter

Or

The one who looks and talks as though he's been through Eton plus a knighthood and serial bullshyte's .

If the bar gets any lower even these two snakes won't be able to crawl under it .

You really can't tell which one is worse?

Honestly?