Shambles

[David Pearson]

The board are fully responsible for the current situation at the rovers...This situation set in long before Wellens came in as manager....Something needs to be done in this transfer window.....The board need to put things right...

[Fal]

Can’t believe there are still some fans who defend the current predicament and come on here and slate anyone that slates the club.

The club is currently a joke and is being run by people with zero ambition. I can accept going down if put in a fight but right now just shows a handful of bad decisions biting us in the arse.

Brilliant insightful observations. Now what?

Get in that trench with BobG, you’re made for each other.

Nevermind the insults. What do you suggest should happen next?

Okay I’ll humour you.

Well firstly call an immediate board meeting and seriously have an honest discussion about the current way of running things and the decisions that have been made.

Decide a new plan of action, if you’re going to say substantial funds don’t have the manager come out and say we can afford a decent league one standard player.

Whilst i respect that they have the club in a good position financially especially after the pandemic, i as a fan want to see ambition, a reason aside from my love of the club to buy tickets and merchandise.

Right now the lies they have said, comments from previous managers and lack of serious investment in the club is losing a lot of casual fans and even some hardcore ones.

Right now they need to put up and shut up and prove to the fans that they hold DRFC in the same regard as us and want us to do well on the pitch.

[David Pearson]

Can’t believe there are still some fans who defend the current predicament and come on here and slate anyone that slates the club.

The club is currently a joke and is being run by people with zero ambition. I can accept going down if put in a fight but right now just shows a handful of bad decisions biting us in the arse.

Brilliant insightful observations. Now what?

Get in that trench with BobG, you’re made for each other.

Nevermind the insults. What do you suggest should happen next?

Okay I’ll humour you.

Well firstly call an immediate board meeting and seriously have an honest discussion about the current way of running things and the decisions that have been made.

Decide a new plan of action, if you’re going to say substantial funds don’t have the manager come out and say we can afford a decent league one standard player.

Whilst i respect that they have the club in a good position financially especially after the pandemic, i as a fan want to see ambition, a reason aside from my love of the club to buy tickets and merchandise.

Right now the lies they have said, comments from previous managers and lack of serious investment in the club is losing a lot of casual fans and even some hardcore ones.

Right now they need to put up and shut up and prove to the fans that they hold DRFC in the same regard as us and want us to do well on the pitch.

Well said

[ditch_drfc]

It really is laughable that some of the users on here still defend the club. Stop berating anyone that dares to talk out against the shit show that is the board. We're failing from top to bottom.

Players, not good enough. Managers, haven't been good enough. Mcsheffrey, cheap option, not good enough. Coaching staff, not good enough. Medical staff, not good enough. Fitness staff, not good enough. Talent scout, not good enough... Does it need to go on? Kit designer, absolutely w**k and nowhere near good enough.

And we’re you saying all this at half time, mcsheffrey picked a side today that scored more goals in half an hour than we had all season away from home.
And then the 3 best players got injured

When we went 3 nil up I actually said its entirely possible we could f**k this up and we did. I'm not as fickle as the people who think our problems are suddenly resolved because we've gone 3 nil up against a team nearly as poor as we are.

The fact we went 3 nil up against them doesn't mean anything other than a couple of players put in an average performance. We're literally playing a team in a relegation battle, you'd expect us to score.

I actually feel sorry for Mcsheffrey, he's been handed a poisoned chalice that is about to kill his managerial career before it's even started.

I don't know how anyone takes positives away from today. We're in a dire position right now.

Also, as for anyone saying we should be grateful for the board putting money in, why is that? They're business owners wanting to turn a profit and fatten their wallets. They should be grateful that fans actually still turn up and pay to watch this absolute shower.

[Lesonthewest]

It really is laughable that some of the users on here still defend the club. Stop berating anyone that dares to talk out against the shit show that is the board. We're failing from top to bottom.

Players, not good enough. Managers, haven't been good enough. Mcsheffrey, cheap option, not good enough. Coaching staff, not good enough. Medical staff, not good enough. Fitness staff, not good enough. Talent scout, not good enough... Does it need to go on? Kit designer, absolutely w**k and nowhere near good enough.

And we’re you saying all this at half time, mcsheffrey picked a side today that scored more goals in half an hour than we had all season away from home.
And then the 3 best players got injured

The 3 players getting injured was only part of it though, the complete & utter inability second half to match a poor teams commitment, togetherness, & willingness to carve out a result was shocking to see. Those reasons, along with poor substitutions contributed to that complete capitulation.

[EasyforDennis]

I remember some years ago at a MTO night TB said something along the lines of:-
"Eventually we will find a level at which we are happy and we will look to maintain that position."
I believe that we have reached that level and the board would be more than happy for us to be a league 1/league 2 yoyo club.

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

Can’t believe there are still some fans who defend the current predicament and come on here and slate anyone that slates the club.

The club is currently a joke and is being run by people with zero ambition. I can accept going down if put in a fight but right now just shows a handful of bad decisions biting us in the arse.

Brilliant insightful observations. Now what?

Get in that trench with BobG, you’re made for each other.

Nevermind the insults. What do you suggest should happen next?

Okay I’ll humour you.

Well firstly call an immediate board meeting and seriously have an honest discussion about the current way of running things and the decisions that have been made.

Decide a new plan of action, if you’re going to say substantial funds don’t have the manager come out and say we can afford a decent league one standard player.

Whilst i respect that they have the club in a good position financially especially after the pandemic, i as a fan want to see ambition, a reason aside from my love of the club to buy tickets and merchandise.

Right now the lies they have said, comments from previous managers and lack of serious investment in the club is losing a lot of casual fans and even some hardcore ones.

Right now they need to put up and shut up and prove to the fans that they hold DRFC in the same regard as us and want us to do well on the pitch.

I get the point fal, but how much is put up? £2m, £5m, £10m?  Is the 2m a year they put ina year not welcomed?

I agree there's still questions to answer and whilst we can't dictate how much money the one person funding the club puts in, we can also question if the amount he does put in is enough. 

I think we do need more funds to compete in this league and would certainly say I really wish that could happen.  But at the same time I'm not prepared to criticise the funds of someone who's spent tens of millions on the club.  A club that according to some he doesn't care about (which is ludicrous).  But I am quite happy with that to say we need more.  It's fine to be greatful for what we have but also stating we do need more.

[RoversAlias]

Agh not the board conversation again.

I think there is a middle ground where you have to be grateful for the 2m put in every year and that the club is brining in more income than before (meaning we aren't as reliant on handouts) these are all good things that have to be recognised. Incredibly entitled to expect someone to spend more.

However it's without doubt that we've been on a backwards trajectory since GM left and it sounds like it's been recognised but then almost every action we take only compounds this downward spiral. Very naive to let DM do what he did to the club. No one was looking out for DRFC when he was in charge that is why so many people what a DOF who wouldn't let the manager do something so risky for the club.

Then each time a manager leaves there's this soulless job search like we're looking for a assistant to the regional manager rather than appointing a highly specialised high performance role. Go out and get the person who you believe suits the club and the players we have (again a DOF would help ). Instead GMc has a mentor instead of a DOF who looks out for DRFC a job i could do right now "mate you need better players those lot our shite" mentor session over. Is this because GMc didn't want a DOF or just didn't ask for one. We need vision and that is what's really been lacking and is leading to the general sense of lack of ambition or passion for the club.

So yeah in summary we have to be thankful to the board but also they are in many ways responsible for state of the club. Don't think that means they need to leave of should be chased out. Rather they need to learn and delegate to better people than they have been

Great post Sedwards and I fully agree.

[sedwardsdrfc]

Can’t believe there are still some fans who defend the current predicament and come on here and slate anyone that slates the club.

The club is currently a joke and is being run by people with zero ambition. I can accept going down if put in a fight but right now just shows a handful of bad decisions biting us in the arse.

Brilliant insightful observations. Now what?

Get in that trench with BobG, you’re made for each other.

Nevermind the insults. What do you suggest should happen next?

Okay I’ll humour you.

Well firstly call an immediate board meeting and seriously have an honest discussion about the current way of running things and the decisions that have been made.

Decide a new plan of action, if you’re going to say substantial funds don’t have the manager come out and say we can afford a decent league one standard player.

Whilst i respect that they have the club in a good position financially especially after the pandemic, i as a fan want to see ambition, a reason aside from my love of the club to buy tickets and merchandise.

Right now the lies they have said, comments from previous managers and lack of serious investment in the club is losing a lot of casual fans and even some hardcore ones.

Right now they need to put up and shut up and prove to the fans that they hold DRFC in the same regard as us and want us to do well on the pitch.

I get the point fal, but how much is put up? £2m, £5m, £10m?  Is the 2m a year they put ina year not welcomed?

I agree there's still questions to answer and whilst we can't dictate how much money the one person funding the club puts in, we can also question if the amount he does put in is enough. 

I think we do need more funds to compete in this league and would certainly say I really wish that could happen.  But at the same time I'm not prepared to criticise the funds of someone who's spent tens of millions on the club.  A club that according to some he doesn't care about (which is ludicrous).  But I am quite happy with that to say we need more.  It's fine to be greatful for what we have but also stating we do need more.

If you define competing in the league as challenging for promotion/playoffs then agreed we probably need more money putting in certainly this season with some of the clubs. However we shouldn't need anymore money putting in to stay up and be mid table i don't see us been that small a club in this division.

And don't we bring in the 2nd most non football revenue in the division? that must help us sustain a good L1 position with the 2m TB puts in even if it's not playoffs level. We've underperformed massively this season imo

[EasyforDennis]

Can’t believe there are still some fans who defend the current predicament and come on here and slate anyone that slates the club.

The club is currently a joke and is being run by people with zero ambition. I can accept going down if put in a fight but right now just shows a handful of bad decisions biting us in the arse.

Brilliant insightful observations. Now what?

Get in that trench with BobG, you’re made for each other.

Nevermind the insults. What do you suggest should happen next?

Okay I’ll humour you.

Well firstly call an immediate board meeting and seriously have an honest discussion about the current way of running things and the decisions that have been made.

Decide a new plan of action, if you’re going to say substantial funds don’t have the manager come out and say we can afford a decent league one standard player.

Whilst i respect that they have the club in a good position financially especially after the pandemic, i as a fan want to see ambition, a reason aside from my love of the club to buy tickets and merchandise.

Right now the lies they have said, comments from previous managers and lack of serious investment in the club is losing a lot of casual fans and even some hardcore ones.

Right now they need to put up and shut up and prove to the fans that they hold DRFC in the same regard as us and want us to do well on the pitch.

I get the point fal, but how much is put up? £2m, £5m, £10m?  Is the 2m a year they put ina year not welcomed?

I agree there's still questions to answer and whilst we can't dictate how much money the one person funding the club puts in, we can also question if the amount he does put in is enough. 

I think we do need more funds to compete in this league and would certainly say I really wish that could happen.  But at the same time I'm not prepared to criticise the funds of someone who's spent tens of millions on the club.  A club that according to some he doesn't care about (which is ludicrous).  But I am quite happy with that to say we need more.  It's fine to be greatful for what we have but also stating we do need more.

If you define competing in the league as challenging for promotion/playoffs then agreed we probably need more money putting in certainly this season with some of the clubs. However we shouldn't need anymore money putting in to stay up and be mid table i don't see us been that small a club in this division.

And don't we bring in the 2nd most non football revenue in the division? that must help us sustain a good L1 position with the 2m TB puts in even if it's not playoffs level. We've underperformed massively this season imo

Why do people still keep referring to the £2m TB is putting in each season when we have been told previously that the club is now in a position where it can stand on its own 2 feet without any contribution from the directors?

[normal rules]

I remember some years ago at a MTO night TB said something along the lines of:-
"Eventually we will find a level at which we are happy and we will look to maintain that position."
I believe that we have reached that level and the board would be more than happy for us to be a league 1/league 2 yoyo club.

Rovers have been a lge 1/2 yo-yo club (old div 3 and 4) for the vast majority of their entire history.

[MachoMadness]

Sedwards post is spot on for me. The money put in each season is not the issue, the issue is we have no one at the club who knows how to spend it wisely. We are crying out for a DoF/technical director type role and everyone can see it. And we just don't seem to learn. Instead we've got this bizarre mentor system which is neither here nor there and no one at the club seems absolutely sure of what it even is.

I just get the impression that football has moved on quite a bit and our ownership haven't moved with it. And here we are.

[sedwardsdrfc]

Sedwards post is spot on for me. The money put in each season is not the issue, the issue is we have no one at the club who knows how to spend it wisely. We are crying out for a DoF/technical director type role and everyone can see it. And we just don't seem to learn. Instead we've got this bizarre mentor system which is neither here nor there and no one at the club seems absolutely sure of what it even is.

I just get the impression that football has moved on quite a bit and our ownership haven't moved with it. And here we are.

DM spent it wisely to be fair it just wasn't in a way that was best for our clubs future. That is what needs looking out for any decision should be made for DRFC not by a manager for his own interests or short term goals. Like now do we sign players for a short term battle or for a rebuild next season? Decision is probably with GMc

Exactly that on football moving on. Always look to what the very top teams are doing. Ok we can never match it but the structure and reasoning should filter it's way down the divisions eventually.

[DonnyNoel]

Can’t believe there are still some fans who defend the current predicament and come on here and slate anyone that slates the club.

The club is currently a joke and is being run by people with zero ambition. I can accept going down if put in a fight but right now just shows a handful of bad decisions biting us in the arse.

Brilliant insightful observations. Now what?

Get in that trench with BobG, you’re made for each other.

Nevermind the insults. What do you suggest should happen next?

Okay I’ll humour you.

Well firstly call an immediate board meeting and seriously have an honest discussion about the current way of running things and the decisions that have been made.

Decide a new plan of action, if you’re going to say substantial funds don’t have the manager come out and say we can afford a decent league one standard player.

Whilst i respect that they have the club in a good position financially especially after the pandemic, i as a fan want to see ambition, a reason aside from my love of the club to buy tickets and merchandise.

Right now the lies they have said, comments from previous managers and lack of serious investment in the club is losing a lot of casual fans and even some hardcore ones.

Right now they need to put up and shut up and prove to the fans that they hold DRFC in the same regard as us and want us to do well on the pitch.

I get the point fal, but how much is put up? £2m, £5m, £10m?  Is the 2m a year they put ina year not welcomed?

I agree there's still questions to answer and whilst we can't dictate how much money the one person funding the club puts in, we can also question if the amount he does put in is enough. 

I think we do need more funds to compete in this league and would certainly say I really wish that could happen.  But at the same time I'm not prepared to criticise the funds of someone who's spent tens of millions on the club.  A club that according to some he doesn't care about (which is ludicrous).  But I am quite happy with that to say we need more.  It's fine to be greatful for what we have but also stating we do need more.

If you define competing in the league as challenging for promotion/playoffs then agreed we probably need more money putting in certainly this season with some of the clubs. However we shouldn't need anymore money putting in to stay up and be mid table i don't see us been that small a club in this division.

And don't we bring in the 2nd most non football revenue in the division? that must help us sustain a good L1 position with the 2m TB puts in even if it's not playoffs level. We've underperformed massively this season imo

Why do people still keep referring to the £2m TB is putting in each season when we have been told previously that the club is now in a position where it can stand on its own 2 feet without any contribution from the directors?

We were told the club can operate on it's own two feet but the directors still contribute to enhance the budget.

[sedwardsdrfc]

Can’t believe there are still some fans who defend the current predicament and come on here and slate anyone that slates the club.

The club is currently a joke and is being run by people with zero ambition. I can accept going down if put in a fight but right now just shows a handful of bad decisions biting us in the arse.

Brilliant insightful observations. Now what?

Get in that trench with BobG, you’re made for each other.

Nevermind the insults. What do you suggest should happen next?

Okay I’ll humour you.

Well firstly call an immediate board meeting and seriously have an honest discussion about the current way of running things and the decisions that have been made.

Decide a new plan of action, if you’re going to say substantial funds don’t have the manager come out and say we can afford a decent league one standard player.

Whilst i respect that they have the club in a good position financially especially after the pandemic, i as a fan want to see ambition, a reason aside from my love of the club to buy tickets and merchandise.

Right now the lies they have said, comments from previous managers and lack of serious investment in the club is losing a lot of casual fans and even some hardcore ones.

Right now they need to put up and shut up and prove to the fans that they hold DRFC in the same regard as us and want us to do well on the pitch.

I get the point fal, but how much is put up? £2m, £5m, £10m?  Is the 2m a year they put ina year not welcomed?

I agree there's still questions to answer and whilst we can't dictate how much money the one person funding the club puts in, we can also question if the amount he does put in is enough. 

I think we do need more funds to compete in this league and would certainly say I really wish that could happen.  But at the same time I'm not prepared to criticise the funds of someone who's spent tens of millions on the club.  A club that according to some he doesn't care about (which is ludicrous).  But I am quite happy with that to say we need more.  It's fine to be greatful for what we have but also stating we do need more.

If you define competing in the league as challenging for promotion/playoffs then agreed we probably need more money putting in certainly this season with some of the clubs. However we shouldn't need anymore money putting in to stay up and be mid table i don't see us been that small a club in this division.

And don't we bring in the 2nd most non football revenue in the division? that must help us sustain a good L1 position with the 2m TB puts in even if it's not playoffs level. We've underperformed massively this season imo

Why do people still keep referring to the £2m TB is putting in each season when we have been told previously that the club is now in a position where it can stand on its own 2 feet without any contribution from the directors?

I think the 2m is still put in we are supposed to be a sustainable L1 club (probably at the bottom end) without any extra funds. The 2m extra is for us to be trying to get playoffs. This season that probably would never be enough but normally it gives us a good chance. Not sure if he pulled the 2m but in the last accounts, which is the only time we'll really know, he was i believe

[David Pearson]

This mentor role is a joke...Whoever thought of this mentor role were looking to save money...Its like myself getting on the phone to my mate and asking him for some advice.....The club is a joke...

[River Don]

Sedwards post is spot on for me. The money put in each season is not the issue, the issue is we have no one at the club who knows how to spend it wisely. We are crying out for a DoF/technical director type role and everyone can see it. And we just don't seem to learn. Instead we've got this bizarre mentor system which is neither here nor there and no one at the club seems absolutely sure of what it even is.

I just get the impression that football has moved on quite a bit and our ownership haven't moved with it. And here we are.

There maybe something in this. I'm not sure about this committee system they seem to have for signing players.

To my mind signing players has to be the managers responsibility. Mentor or not. Unless they do go down the route of a DoF and first team coach, which is not yet the case.

[DonnyOsmond]

Can’t believe there are still some fans who defend the current predicament and come on here and slate anyone that slates the club.

The club is currently a joke and is being run by people with zero ambition. I can accept going down if put in a fight but right now just shows a handful of bad decisions biting us in the arse.

Brilliant insightful observations. Now what?

Get in that trench with BobG, you’re made for each other.

Nevermind the insults. What do you suggest should happen next?

Okay I’ll humour you.

Well firstly call an immediate board meeting and seriously have an honest discussion about the current way of running things and the decisions that have been made.

Decide a new plan of action, if you’re going to say substantial funds don’t have the manager come out and say we can afford a decent league one standard player.

Whilst i respect that they have the club in a good position financially especially after the pandemic, i as a fan want to see ambition, a reason aside from my love of the club to buy tickets and merchandise.

Right now the lies they have said, comments from previous managers and lack of serious investment in the club is losing a lot of casual fans and even some hardcore ones.

Right now they need to put up and shut up and prove to the fans that they hold DRFC in the same regard as us and want us to do well on the pitch.

I get the point fal, but how much is put up? £2m, £5m, £10m?  Is the 2m a year they put ina year not welcomed?

I agree there's still questions to answer and whilst we can't dictate how much money the one person funding the club puts in, we can also question if the amount he does put in is enough. 

I think we do need more funds to compete in this league and would certainly say I really wish that could happen.  But at the same time I'm not prepared to criticise the funds of someone who's spent tens of millions on the club.  A club that according to some he doesn't care about (which is ludicrous).  But I am quite happy with that to say we need more.  It's fine to be greatful for what we have but also stating we do need more.

If you define competing in the league as challenging for promotion/playoffs then agreed we probably need more money putting in certainly this season with some of the clubs. However we shouldn't need anymore money putting in to stay up and be mid table i don't see us been that small a club in this division.

And don't we bring in the 2nd most non football revenue in the division? that must help us sustain a good L1 position with the 2m TB puts in even if it's not playoffs level. We've underperformed massively this season imo

Why do people still keep referring to the £2m TB is putting in each season when we have been told previously that the club is now in a position where it can stand on its own 2 feet without any contribution from the directors?

Because standing on its own two feet is a lower League One budget. With the £2m extra it's to give us a budget closer to a play off place. I'm sure most people would prefer the latter?

This would be in a normal non Covid year though.

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

The £2m is fairly clear even from the high level accounts.  Quite clearly I'd agree to get promoted we need a bigger budget and for all the correctly stated success of being sustainable where's the plan for growth?

[sha66y]

I remember some years ago at a MTO night TB said something along the lines of:-
"Eventually we will find a level at which we are happy and we will look to maintain that position."
I believe that we have reached that level and the board would be more than happy for us to be a league 1/league 2 yoyo club.

Now that makes bloody good sense!
Lots won’t like mention of a “real relegation” …….as opposed to this slow death crawl towards ultimately the same ending……

It will take a lot,  to not only alter the current demise but turn it around !

I never ever slate the board….just wanted that out there!

throughout this season I have taken on board all the things that have gone pear shaped, all the injuries, the poor signings and the impact Covid has had on the club…

My conclusion is that we have flattered to deceive for some time now, the board are doing all they can and that is acceptable, the football is as expected poor under the circumstances and that too is acceptable…..
we have ultimately succumbed to a “relegation in waiting”

From now to the point of no return is going to be very painful for a lot of fans, nobody wants a relegation but sometimes you just have to accept that it’s pretty much inevitable……

So to those who are ever hopeful of a turn round in fortunes I salute you and hope you are right!
To those who are already writing obituaries for the next game…..you are going to feel pretty miserable for quite some time, until you either leave the Rovers family or become resigned to that “ after match numbing” that follows yet another defeat!

Yes you will scream and holler your opinions, appoint blame and tell anyone that is listening that it’s just shit, …. But before you do that ask yourself one thing……

Where the hell is Boreham!

[Alan Southstand]

After what was signed this summer, the talent acquisition manager should be nowhere near the selection panel.

[Lesonthewest]

It really is laughable that some of the users on here still defend the club. Stop berating anyone that dares to talk out against the shit show that is the board. We're failing from top to bottom.

Players, not good enough. Managers, haven't been good enough. Mcsheffrey, cheap option, not good enough. Coaching staff, not good enough. Medical staff, not good enough. Fitness staff, not good enough. Talent scout, not good enough... Does it need to go on? Kit designer, absolutely w**k and nowhere near good enough.

And we’re you saying all this at half time, mcsheffrey picked a side today that scored more goals in half an hour than we had all season away from home.
And then the 3 best players got injured

When we went 3 nil up I actually said its entirely possible we could f**k this up and we did. I'm not as fickle as the people who think our problems are suddenly resolved because we've gone 3 nil up against a team nearly as poor as we are.

The fact we went 3 nil up against them doesn't mean anything other than a couple of players put in an average performance. We're literally playing a team in a relegation battle, you'd expect us to score.

I actually feel sorry for Mcsheffrey, he's been handed a poisoned chalice that is about to kill his managerial career before it's even started.

I don't know how anyone takes positives away from today. We're in a dire position right now.

Also, as for anyone saying we should be grateful for the board putting money in, why is that? They're business owners wanting to turn a profit and fatten their wallets. They should be grateful that fans actually still turn up and pay to watch this absolute shower.

Hand on heart, at half time, not for one second did I believe we would win that game, that's how confident I feel about this present squad.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

Sedwards post is spot on for me. The money put in each season is not the issue, the issue is we have no one at the club who knows how to spend it wisely. We are crying out for a DoF/technical director type role and everyone can see it. And we just don't seem to learn. Instead we've got this bizarre mentor system which is neither here nor there and no one at the club seems absolutely sure of what it even is.

I just get the impression that football has moved on quite a bit and our ownership haven't moved with it. And here we are.

I think we can all agree the fundamental problem that has undermined the season, even before we get to the personnel and the hierarchy, and that's the level of injuries. There's a fair portion of the budget that's hardly kicked a ball yet and no matter how we try to blame someone, you just can't account for that.

The season, which was always going to be a rebuilding season, including players and finances, has just been undermined by further injury and, what has turned out to be some signings that just haven't lived up to our expectations, particularly Hiwula

Yes, we knew a few were stop gap signings that were never intended to get as much game time as they have, particularly Cukur.

All ifs and buts, but we can't keep scapegoating . It is what it is, and we've got to hope these replacement players are more sturdy and up to the rigours of a full half season and capable of making a difference..

A DoF position right now, is as much use as a chocolate teapot although going forward it may be.

[swintonrover]

I don't think it's malicious, I just genuinely think the board are not aware of what is required at a financial level of a League 1 club any more. I think they are still in a mindset from a decade ago.

[EasyforDennis]

Can’t believe there are still some fans who defend the current predicament and come on here and slate anyone that slates the club.

The club is currently a joke and is being run by people with zero ambition. I can accept going down if put in a fight but right now just shows a handful of bad decisions biting us in the arse.

Brilliant insightful observations. Now what?

Get in that trench with BobG, you’re made for each other.

Nevermind the insults. What do you suggest should happen next?

Okay I’ll humour you.

Well firstly call an immediate board meeting and seriously have an honest discussion about the current way of running things and the decisions that have been made.

Decide a new plan of action, if you’re going to say substantial funds don’t have the manager come out and say we can afford a decent league one standard player.

Whilst i respect that they have the club in a good position financially especially after the pandemic, i as a fan want to see ambition, a reason aside from my love of the club to buy tickets and merchandise.

Right now the lies they have said, comments from previous managers and lack of serious investment in the club is losing a lot of casual fans and even some hardcore ones.

Right now they need to put up and shut up and prove to the fans that they hold DRFC in the same regard as us and want us to do well on the pitch.

I get the point fal, but how much is put up? £2m, £5m, £10m?  Is the 2m a year they put ina year not welcomed?

I agree there's still questions to answer and whilst we can't dictate how much money the one person funding the club puts in, we can also question if the amount he does put in is enough. 

I think we do need more funds to compete in this league and would certainly say I really wish that could happen.  But at the same time I'm not prepared to criticise the funds of someone who's spent tens of millions on the club.  A club that according to some he doesn't care about (which is ludicrous).  But I am quite happy with that to say we need more.  It's fine to be greatful for what we have but also stating we do need more.

If you define competing in the league as challenging for promotion/playoffs then agreed we probably need more money putting in certainly this season with some of the clubs. However we shouldn't need anymore money putting in to stay up and be mid table i don't see us been that small a club in this division.

And don't we bring in the 2nd most non football revenue in the division? that must help us sustain a good L1 position with the 2m TB puts in even if it's not playoffs level. We've underperformed massively this season imo

Why do people still keep referring to the £2m TB is putting in each season when we have been told previously that the club is now in a position where it can stand on its own 2 feet without any contribution from the directors?

We were told the club can operate on it's own two feet but the directors still contribute to enhance the budget.

So if TB is putting £2m in to enhance the budget. What is the original budget then??

[Donny Exile in York]

It really is laughable that some of the users on here still defend the club. Stop berating anyone that dares to talk out against the shit show that is the board. We're failing from top to bottom.

Players, not good enough. Managers, haven't been good enough. Mcsheffrey, cheap option, not good enough. Coaching staff, not good enough. Medical staff, not good enough. Fitness staff, not good enough. Talent scout, not good enough... Does it need to go on? Kit designer, absolutely w**k and nowhere near good enough.

And we’re you saying all this at half time, mcsheffrey picked a side today that scored more goals in half an hour than we had all season away from home.
And then the 3 best players got injured

Spot on post Ditch. This is not about one game. Its about many many aspects on and off the pitch which are simply not good enough.. hence the worst away record in decades, the lowest goals scored, bottom of the division free falling to the next and maybe further cos its going to need an almighty turnaround to prevent further decline next season. Recruitment has been  shockingly bad for a year or so to.bring in journeymen, rejects, show boaters, players with a heart of a pea.. wearing a dros kit..

[Sammy Chung was King]

The board I take to be intelligent businessmen, just not football men. I appreciate they put money in and  they have backed the manager whoever it has been. The same mistakes keep being made with how long it takes to appoint a manager, to get a signing done.

Like it or not things have changed. The money has been tightened up, the ambition has gone. We needed a goalkeeper coach, we promoted from the youth team with Hernandez.
We needed a new manager and assistant, we promoted from the youth team. We needed a fitness coach we looked for an old favourite in Paul Green from Boston, to get fans onside , and he isn’t a full time staff member-part time fitness coach, for a full time professional team. If these aren’t cheap appointments I don’t know what are.

To today’s game. Encouraging going forward, just wide open at the back. The managers decisions as well as the players ,cost us the game today.
The mentality and team talk should have been, keep doing what’s got us into this position. He might very well have told them this, but lack of football intelligence made them not take the instructions in.
We really do need some ugly, win at all costs, experienced players added to the lightweight, easily rolled over ,when pressured side.

Not all negative, just shut the back door and put a padlock on it.
We can stay up but from board down to players it needs to improve quickly.

[dickos1]

It really is laughable that some of the users on here still defend the club. Stop berating anyone that dares to talk out against the shit show that is the board. We're failing from top to bottom.

Players, not good enough. Managers, haven't been good enough. Mcsheffrey, cheap option, not good enough. Coaching staff, not good enough. Medical staff, not good enough. Fitness staff, not good enough. Talent scout, not good enough... Does it need to go on? Kit designer, absolutely w**k and nowhere near good enough.

And we’re you saying all this at half time, mcsheffrey picked a side today that scored more goals in half an hour than we had all season away from home.
And then the 3 best players got injured

Spot on post Ditch. This is not about one game. Its about many many aspects on and off the pitch which are simply not good enough.. hence the worst away record in decades, the lowest goals scored, bottom of the division free falling to the next and maybe further cos its going to need an almighty turnaround to prevent further decline next season. Recruitment has bee  shockingly bad for a year or so to.brung in journeymen, rejects, show boaters, players with a heart of a pea.. wearing a dros kit..

None of that has anything to do with mcsheffrey, his first game as manager today still with many injuries and the first half was the best we’ve played all season.
Forget all the other stuff just get behind him

[NickDRFC]

The £2m is fairly clear even from the high level accounts.  Quite clearly I'd agree to get promoted we need a bigger budget and for all the correctly stated success of being sustainable where's the plan for growth?

The last set of published accounts (the year to June 2020) suggested to me that there was a subsidy of c.£750k put in, not £2m. There was probably a bigger requirement for the financial year to June 21 with Covid but £2m is still conjecture as it stands. This isn’t intended to be a pop at the board/TB by the way, I’m grateful that we have someone willing to make up that shortfall, and it might be the case that the figure of £2m is correct when we see the next published accounts.

Sedwards post is spot on for me. The money put in each season is not the issue, the issue is we have no one at the club who knows how to spend it wisely. We are crying out for a DoF/technical director type role and everyone can see it. And we just don't seem to learn. Instead we've got this bizarre mentor system which is neither here nor there and no one at the club seems absolutely sure of what it even is.

I just get the impression that football has moved on quite a bit and our ownership haven't moved with it. And here we are.

Completely agree with this. It’s possible to be grateful and overall supportive of the board and still ask questions. It would be nice to see some accountability for the areas that have so clearly regressed in the past few years, and some lessons learned with the intention of moving forward in a better way.

[waldron40]

Why do people still keep referring to the £2m TB is putting in each season when we have been told previously that the club is now in a position where it can stand on its own 2 feet without any contribution from the directors?

And where is the evidence that £2M is still being put in each season since the Watson family departed. The most recent published accounts are up to 30 June 2020 which is the year in which they left.
One main problem I see is that the same three people (Bramhall, Blunt, Baldwin) are owners (equal shareholders) and Directors of Club Doncaster and Doncaster Rovers. Two of them also hold Executive positions. There is no accountability at the top. They are never going to fire themselves.