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Quote from: Fal on January 02, 2022, 05:31:14 pmQuote from: DonnyBazR0ver on January 02, 2022, 05:25:12 pmQuote from: Fal on January 02, 2022, 05:08:08 pmCan’t believe there are still some fans who defend the current predicament and come on here and slate anyone that slates the club. The club is currently a joke and is being run by people with zero ambition. I can accept going down if put in a fight but right now just shows a handful of bad decisions biting us in the arse.Brilliant insightful observations. Now what?Get in that trench with BobG, you’re made for each other.Nevermind the insults. What do you suggest should happen next?
Quote from: DonnyBazR0ver on January 02, 2022, 05:25:12 pmQuote from: Fal on January 02, 2022, 05:08:08 pmCan’t believe there are still some fans who defend the current predicament and come on here and slate anyone that slates the club. The club is currently a joke and is being run by people with zero ambition. I can accept going down if put in a fight but right now just shows a handful of bad decisions biting us in the arse.Brilliant insightful observations. Now what?Get in that trench with BobG, you’re made for each other.
Quote from: Fal on January 02, 2022, 05:08:08 pmCan’t believe there are still some fans who defend the current predicament and come on here and slate anyone that slates the club. The club is currently a joke and is being run by people with zero ambition. I can accept going down if put in a fight but right now just shows a handful of bad decisions biting us in the arse.Brilliant insightful observations. Now what?
Can’t believe there are still some fans who defend the current predicament and come on here and slate anyone that slates the club. The club is currently a joke and is being run by people with zero ambition. I can accept going down if put in a fight but right now just shows a handful of bad decisions biting us in the arse.
Quote from: DonnyBazR0ver on January 02, 2022, 05:42:15 pmQuote from: Fal on January 02, 2022, 05:31:14 pmQuote from: DonnyBazR0ver on January 02, 2022, 05:25:12 pmQuote from: Fal on January 02, 2022, 05:08:08 pmCan’t believe there are still some fans who defend the current predicament and come on here and slate anyone that slates the club. The club is currently a joke and is being run by people with zero ambition. I can accept going down if put in a fight but right now just shows a handful of bad decisions biting us in the arse.Brilliant insightful observations. Now what?Get in that trench with BobG, you’re made for each other.Nevermind the insults. What do you suggest should happen next? Okay I’ll humour you.Well firstly call an immediate board meeting and seriously have an honest discussion about the current way of running things and the decisions that have been made.Decide a new plan of action, if you’re going to say substantial funds don’t have the manager come out and say we can afford a decent league one standard player.Whilst i respect that they have the club in a good position financially especially after the pandemic, i as a fan want to see ambition, a reason aside from my love of the club to buy tickets and merchandise.Right now the lies they have said, comments from previous managers and lack of serious investment in the club is losing a lot of casual fans and even some hardcore ones.Right now they need to put up and shut up and prove to the fans that they hold DRFC in the same regard as us and want us to do well on the pitch.
Quote from: ditch_drfc on January 02, 2022, 05:42:09 pmIt really is laughable that some of the users on here still defend the club. Stop berating anyone that dares to talk out against the shit show that is the board. We're failing from top to bottom.Players, not good enough. Managers, haven't been good enough. Mcsheffrey, cheap option, not good enough. Coaching staff, not good enough. Medical staff, not good enough. Fitness staff, not good enough. Talent scout, not good enough... Does it need to go on? Kit designer, absolutely w**k and nowhere near good enough.And we’re you saying all this at half time, mcsheffrey picked a side today that scored more goals in half an hour than we had all season away from home. And then the 3 best players got injured
It really is laughable that some of the users on here still defend the club. Stop berating anyone that dares to talk out against the shit show that is the board. We're failing from top to bottom.Players, not good enough. Managers, haven't been good enough. Mcsheffrey, cheap option, not good enough. Coaching staff, not good enough. Medical staff, not good enough. Fitness staff, not good enough. Talent scout, not good enough... Does it need to go on? Kit designer, absolutely w**k and nowhere near good enough.
Agh not the board conversation again. I think there is a middle ground where you have to be grateful for the 2m put in every year and that the club is brining in more income than before (meaning we aren't as reliant on handouts) these are all good things that have to be recognised. Incredibly entitled to expect someone to spend more. However it's without doubt that we've been on a backwards trajectory since GM left and it sounds like it's been recognised but then almost every action we take only compounds this downward spiral. Very naive to let DM do what he did to the club. No one was looking out for DRFC when he was in charge that is why so many people what a DOF who wouldn't let the manager do something so risky for the club. Then each time a manager leaves there's this soulless job search like we're looking for a assistant to the regional manager rather than appointing a highly specialised high performance role. Go out and get the person who you believe suits the club and the players we have (again a DOF would help ). Instead GMc has a mentor instead of a DOF who looks out for DRFC a job i could do right now "mate you need better players those lot our shite" mentor session over. Is this because GMc didn't want a DOF or just didn't ask for one. We need vision and that is what's really been lacking and is leading to the general sense of lack of ambition or passion for the club.So yeah in summary we have to be thankful to the board but also they are in many ways responsible for state of the club. Don't think that means they need to leave of should be chased out. Rather they need to learn and delegate to better people than they have been
Quote from: Fal on January 02, 2022, 05:50:41 pmQuote from: DonnyBazR0ver on January 02, 2022, 05:42:15 pmQuote from: Fal on January 02, 2022, 05:31:14 pmQuote from: DonnyBazR0ver on January 02, 2022, 05:25:12 pmQuote from: Fal on January 02, 2022, 05:08:08 pmCan’t believe there are still some fans who defend the current predicament and come on here and slate anyone that slates the club. The club is currently a joke and is being run by people with zero ambition. I can accept going down if put in a fight but right now just shows a handful of bad decisions biting us in the arse.Brilliant insightful observations. Now what?Get in that trench with BobG, you’re made for each other.Nevermind the insults. What do you suggest should happen next? Okay I’ll humour you.Well firstly call an immediate board meeting and seriously have an honest discussion about the current way of running things and the decisions that have been made.Decide a new plan of action, if you’re going to say substantial funds don’t have the manager come out and say we can afford a decent league one standard player.Whilst i respect that they have the club in a good position financially especially after the pandemic, i as a fan want to see ambition, a reason aside from my love of the club to buy tickets and merchandise.Right now the lies they have said, comments from previous managers and lack of serious investment in the club is losing a lot of casual fans and even some hardcore ones.Right now they need to put up and shut up and prove to the fans that they hold DRFC in the same regard as us and want us to do well on the pitch.I get the point fal, but how much is put up? £2m, £5m, £10m? Is the 2m a year they put ina year not welcomed?I agree there's still questions to answer and whilst we can't dictate how much money the one person funding the club puts in, we can also question if the amount he does put in is enough. I think we do need more funds to compete in this league and would certainly say I really wish that could happen. But at the same time I'm not prepared to criticise the funds of someone who's spent tens of millions on the club. A club that according to some he doesn't care about (which is ludicrous). But I am quite happy with that to say we need more. It's fine to be greatful for what we have but also stating we do need more.
Quote from: big fat yorkshire pudding on January 02, 2022, 05:58:47 pmQuote from: Fal on January 02, 2022, 05:50:41 pmQuote from: DonnyBazR0ver on January 02, 2022, 05:42:15 pmQuote from: Fal on January 02, 2022, 05:31:14 pmQuote from: DonnyBazR0ver on January 02, 2022, 05:25:12 pmQuote from: Fal on January 02, 2022, 05:08:08 pmCan’t believe there are still some fans who defend the current predicament and come on here and slate anyone that slates the club. The club is currently a joke and is being run by people with zero ambition. I can accept going down if put in a fight but right now just shows a handful of bad decisions biting us in the arse.Brilliant insightful observations. Now what?Get in that trench with BobG, you’re made for each other.Nevermind the insults. What do you suggest should happen next? Okay I’ll humour you.Well firstly call an immediate board meeting and seriously have an honest discussion about the current way of running things and the decisions that have been made.Decide a new plan of action, if you’re going to say substantial funds don’t have the manager come out and say we can afford a decent league one standard player.Whilst i respect that they have the club in a good position financially especially after the pandemic, i as a fan want to see ambition, a reason aside from my love of the club to buy tickets and merchandise.Right now the lies they have said, comments from previous managers and lack of serious investment in the club is losing a lot of casual fans and even some hardcore ones.Right now they need to put up and shut up and prove to the fans that they hold DRFC in the same regard as us and want us to do well on the pitch.I get the point fal, but how much is put up? £2m, £5m, £10m? Is the 2m a year they put ina year not welcomed?I agree there's still questions to answer and whilst we can't dictate how much money the one person funding the club puts in, we can also question if the amount he does put in is enough. I think we do need more funds to compete in this league and would certainly say I really wish that could happen. But at the same time I'm not prepared to criticise the funds of someone who's spent tens of millions on the club. A club that according to some he doesn't care about (which is ludicrous). But I am quite happy with that to say we need more. It's fine to be greatful for what we have but also stating we do need more.If you define competing in the league as challenging for promotion/playoffs then agreed we probably need more money putting in certainly this season with some of the clubs. However we shouldn't need anymore money putting in to stay up and be mid table i don't see us been that small a club in this division. And don't we bring in the 2nd most non football revenue in the division? that must help us sustain a good L1 position with the 2m TB puts in even if it's not playoffs level. We've underperformed massively this season imo
I remember some years ago at a MTO night TB said something along the lines of:-"Eventually we will find a level at which we are happy and we will look to maintain that position."I believe that we have reached that level and the board would be more than happy for us to be a league 1/league 2 yoyo club.
Sedwards post is spot on for me. The money put in each season is not the issue, the issue is we have no one at the club who knows how to spend it wisely. We are crying out for a DoF/technical director type role and everyone can see it. And we just don't seem to learn. Instead we've got this bizarre mentor system which is neither here nor there and no one at the club seems absolutely sure of what it even is. I just get the impression that football has moved on quite a bit and our ownership haven't moved with it. And here we are.
Quote from: sedwardsdrfc on January 02, 2022, 06:03:44 pmQuote from: big fat yorkshire pudding on January 02, 2022, 05:58:47 pmQuote from: Fal on January 02, 2022, 05:50:41 pmQuote from: DonnyBazR0ver on January 02, 2022, 05:42:15 pmQuote from: Fal on January 02, 2022, 05:31:14 pmQuote from: DonnyBazR0ver on January 02, 2022, 05:25:12 pmQuote from: Fal on January 02, 2022, 05:08:08 pmCan’t believe there are still some fans who defend the current predicament and come on here and slate anyone that slates the club. The club is currently a joke and is being run by people with zero ambition. I can accept going down if put in a fight but right now just shows a handful of bad decisions biting us in the arse.Brilliant insightful observations. Now what?Get in that trench with BobG, you’re made for each other.Nevermind the insults. What do you suggest should happen next? Okay I’ll humour you.Well firstly call an immediate board meeting and seriously have an honest discussion about the current way of running things and the decisions that have been made.Decide a new plan of action, if you’re going to say substantial funds don’t have the manager come out and say we can afford a decent league one standard player.Whilst i respect that they have the club in a good position financially especially after the pandemic, i as a fan want to see ambition, a reason aside from my love of the club to buy tickets and merchandise.Right now the lies they have said, comments from previous managers and lack of serious investment in the club is losing a lot of casual fans and even some hardcore ones.Right now they need to put up and shut up and prove to the fans that they hold DRFC in the same regard as us and want us to do well on the pitch.I get the point fal, but how much is put up? £2m, £5m, £10m? Is the 2m a year they put ina year not welcomed?I agree there's still questions to answer and whilst we can't dictate how much money the one person funding the club puts in, we can also question if the amount he does put in is enough. I think we do need more funds to compete in this league and would certainly say I really wish that could happen. But at the same time I'm not prepared to criticise the funds of someone who's spent tens of millions on the club. A club that according to some he doesn't care about (which is ludicrous). But I am quite happy with that to say we need more. It's fine to be greatful for what we have but also stating we do need more.If you define competing in the league as challenging for promotion/playoffs then agreed we probably need more money putting in certainly this season with some of the clubs. However we shouldn't need anymore money putting in to stay up and be mid table i don't see us been that small a club in this division. And don't we bring in the 2nd most non football revenue in the division? that must help us sustain a good L1 position with the 2m TB puts in even if it's not playoffs level. We've underperformed massively this season imoWhy do people still keep referring to the £2m TB is putting in each season when we have been told previously that the club is now in a position where it can stand on its own 2 feet without any contribution from the directors?
Quote from: dickos1 on January 02, 2022, 05:45:56 pmQuote from: ditch_drfc on January 02, 2022, 05:42:09 pmIt really is laughable that some of the users on here still defend the club. Stop berating anyone that dares to talk out against the shit show that is the board. We're failing from top to bottom.Players, not good enough. Managers, haven't been good enough. Mcsheffrey, cheap option, not good enough. Coaching staff, not good enough. Medical staff, not good enough. Fitness staff, not good enough. Talent scout, not good enough... Does it need to go on? Kit designer, absolutely w**k and nowhere near good enough.And we’re you saying all this at half time, mcsheffrey picked a side today that scored more goals in half an hour than we had all season away from home. And then the 3 best players got injured When we went 3 nil up I actually said its entirely possible we could f**k this up and we did. I'm not as fickle as the people who think our problems are suddenly resolved because we've gone 3 nil up against a team nearly as poor as we are.The fact we went 3 nil up against them doesn't mean anything other than a couple of players put in an average performance. We're literally playing a team in a relegation battle, you'd expect us to score.I actually feel sorry for Mcsheffrey, he's been handed a poisoned chalice that is about to kill his managerial career before it's even started.I don't know how anyone takes positives away from today. We're in a dire position right now.Also, as for anyone saying we should be grateful for the board putting money in, why is that? They're business owners wanting to turn a profit and fatten their wallets. They should be grateful that fans actually still turn up and pay to watch this absolute shower.
Quote from: EasyforDennis on January 02, 2022, 06:10:32 pmQuote from: sedwardsdrfc on January 02, 2022, 06:03:44 pmQuote from: big fat yorkshire pudding on January 02, 2022, 05:58:47 pmQuote from: Fal on January 02, 2022, 05:50:41 pmQuote from: DonnyBazR0ver on January 02, 2022, 05:42:15 pmQuote from: Fal on January 02, 2022, 05:31:14 pmQuote from: DonnyBazR0ver on January 02, 2022, 05:25:12 pmQuote from: Fal on January 02, 2022, 05:08:08 pmCan’t believe there are still some fans who defend the current predicament and come on here and slate anyone that slates the club. The club is currently a joke and is being run by people with zero ambition. I can accept going down if put in a fight but right now just shows a handful of bad decisions biting us in the arse.Brilliant insightful observations. Now what?Get in that trench with BobG, you’re made for each other.Nevermind the insults. What do you suggest should happen next? Okay I’ll humour you.Well firstly call an immediate board meeting and seriously have an honest discussion about the current way of running things and the decisions that have been made.Decide a new plan of action, if you’re going to say substantial funds don’t have the manager come out and say we can afford a decent league one standard player.Whilst i respect that they have the club in a good position financially especially after the pandemic, i as a fan want to see ambition, a reason aside from my love of the club to buy tickets and merchandise.Right now the lies they have said, comments from previous managers and lack of serious investment in the club is losing a lot of casual fans and even some hardcore ones.Right now they need to put up and shut up and prove to the fans that they hold DRFC in the same regard as us and want us to do well on the pitch.I get the point fal, but how much is put up? £2m, £5m, £10m? Is the 2m a year they put ina year not welcomed?I agree there's still questions to answer and whilst we can't dictate how much money the one person funding the club puts in, we can also question if the amount he does put in is enough. I think we do need more funds to compete in this league and would certainly say I really wish that could happen. But at the same time I'm not prepared to criticise the funds of someone who's spent tens of millions on the club. A club that according to some he doesn't care about (which is ludicrous). But I am quite happy with that to say we need more. It's fine to be greatful for what we have but also stating we do need more.If you define competing in the league as challenging for promotion/playoffs then agreed we probably need more money putting in certainly this season with some of the clubs. However we shouldn't need anymore money putting in to stay up and be mid table i don't see us been that small a club in this division. And don't we bring in the 2nd most non football revenue in the division? that must help us sustain a good L1 position with the 2m TB puts in even if it's not playoffs level. We've underperformed massively this season imoWhy do people still keep referring to the £2m TB is putting in each season when we have been told previously that the club is now in a position where it can stand on its own 2 feet without any contribution from the directors? We were told the club can operate on it's own two feet but the directors still contribute to enhance the budget.
Quote from: dickos1 on January 02, 2022, 05:45:56 pmQuote from: ditch_drfc on January 02, 2022, 05:42:09 pmIt really is laughable that some of the users on here still defend the club. Stop berating anyone that dares to talk out against the shit show that is the board. We're failing from top to bottom.Players, not good enough. Managers, haven't been good enough. Mcsheffrey, cheap option, not good enough. Coaching staff, not good enough. Medical staff, not good enough. Fitness staff, not good enough. Talent scout, not good enough... Does it need to go on? Kit designer, absolutely w**k and nowhere near good enough.And we’re you saying all this at half time, mcsheffrey picked a side today that scored more goals in half an hour than we had all season away from home. And then the 3 best players got injured Spot on post Ditch. This is not about one game. Its about many many aspects on and off the pitch which are simply not good enough.. hence the worst away record in decades, the lowest goals scored, bottom of the division free falling to the next and maybe further cos its going to need an almighty turnaround to prevent further decline next season. Recruitment has bee shockingly bad for a year or so to.brung in journeymen, rejects, show boaters, players with a heart of a pea.. wearing a dros kit..
The £2m is fairly clear even from the high level accounts. Quite clearly I'd agree to get promoted we need a bigger budget and for all the correctly stated success of being sustainable where's the plan for growth?
Why do people still keep referring to the £2m TB is putting in each season when we have been told previously that the club is now in a position where it can stand on its own 2 feet without any contribution from the directors?