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Quote from: dickos1 on January 09, 2022, 06:59:36 pmQuote from: mushRTID on January 09, 2022, 09:08:26 amQuote from: dickos1 on January 09, 2022, 09:04:10 amQuote from: Chris Black come back on January 09, 2022, 08:56:31 amI get the sentiment, but there is no way this side even with the 3-4 additions is going to get form anything like that. We have only competed in parts of a small handful of games this season. We haven’t been unlucky or being robbed, we just haven’t been anywhere near competing. You cannot go from being so far from competitive to then start winning games at this rate. This is a side that is going down. It is not a side that is going to start embarking on winning runs of 2-3 games. They are done and dusted I am afraid. It is League Two next season. Don’t agree!If we get these 4 players in and get the likes of John, Anderson, close, okenabirhie, bostock all back within the next month we will go into feb with a great chance of going on a good run. I agree in a way but by the time those players return we will likely be too far behind after our run of tough games. These 2 results have killed us.There is also no guarantees the new signings and returning lads are going to get up to speed immediately.I don’t think we need to worry how many points we are behind we’ve just got to aim for 50 points, So if the 4 signings are made and we get players back, and we’re sat on 25 points with 15 games to go then we know we need 25 points from those games regardless of how many points we’re adrift We will be down to 15 games to go by 12 Feb. We will be lucky to have any of our injured players back before, at best the last couple of those games.Given the fixtures we have coming, unless we make 4-5 very, very high quality signings very soon, we are far more likely to hit the 15 games to go mark on 16 points than on 25 points.
Quote from: mushRTID on January 09, 2022, 09:08:26 amQuote from: dickos1 on January 09, 2022, 09:04:10 amQuote from: Chris Black come back on January 09, 2022, 08:56:31 amI get the sentiment, but there is no way this side even with the 3-4 additions is going to get form anything like that. We have only competed in parts of a small handful of games this season. We haven’t been unlucky or being robbed, we just haven’t been anywhere near competing. You cannot go from being so far from competitive to then start winning games at this rate. This is a side that is going down. It is not a side that is going to start embarking on winning runs of 2-3 games. They are done and dusted I am afraid. It is League Two next season. Don’t agree!If we get these 4 players in and get the likes of John, Anderson, close, okenabirhie, bostock all back within the next month we will go into feb with a great chance of going on a good run. I agree in a way but by the time those players return we will likely be too far behind after our run of tough games. These 2 results have killed us.There is also no guarantees the new signings and returning lads are going to get up to speed immediately.I don’t think we need to worry how many points we are behind we’ve just got to aim for 50 points, So if the 4 signings are made and we get players back, and we’re sat on 25 points with 15 games to go then we know we need 25 points from those games regardless of how many points we’re adrift
Quote from: dickos1 on January 09, 2022, 09:04:10 amQuote from: Chris Black come back on January 09, 2022, 08:56:31 amI get the sentiment, but there is no way this side even with the 3-4 additions is going to get form anything like that. We have only competed in parts of a small handful of games this season. We haven’t been unlucky or being robbed, we just haven’t been anywhere near competing. You cannot go from being so far from competitive to then start winning games at this rate. This is a side that is going down. It is not a side that is going to start embarking on winning runs of 2-3 games. They are done and dusted I am afraid. It is League Two next season. Don’t agree!If we get these 4 players in and get the likes of John, Anderson, close, okenabirhie, bostock all back within the next month we will go into feb with a great chance of going on a good run. I agree in a way but by the time those players return we will likely be too far behind after our run of tough games. These 2 results have killed us.There is also no guarantees the new signings and returning lads are going to get up to speed immediately.
Quote from: Chris Black come back on January 09, 2022, 08:56:31 amI get the sentiment, but there is no way this side even with the 3-4 additions is going to get form anything like that. We have only competed in parts of a small handful of games this season. We haven’t been unlucky or being robbed, we just haven’t been anywhere near competing. You cannot go from being so far from competitive to then start winning games at this rate. This is a side that is going down. It is not a side that is going to start embarking on winning runs of 2-3 games. They are done and dusted I am afraid. It is League Two next season. Don’t agree!If we get these 4 players in and get the likes of John, Anderson, close, okenabirhie, bostock all back within the next month we will go into feb with a great chance of going on a good run.
I get the sentiment, but there is no way this side even with the 3-4 additions is going to get form anything like that. We have only competed in parts of a small handful of games this season. We haven’t been unlucky or being robbed, we just haven’t been anywhere near competing. You cannot go from being so far from competitive to then start winning games at this rate. This is a side that is going down. It is not a side that is going to start embarking on winning runs of 2-3 games. They are done and dusted I am afraid. It is League Two next season.
There is pretty much no scenario where we stay up of our own volition. This is largely a terrible team and the addition of even 4 oven ready excellent players is not going to change that. We’ve competed for about three halves of football all league season. Not going to change sufficiently to keep us up. Not happening.
Quote from: Chris Black come back on January 09, 2022, 10:08:04 pmThere is pretty much no scenario where we stay up of our own volition. This is largely a terrible team and the addition of even 4 oven ready excellent players is not going to change that. We’ve competed for about three halves of football all league season. Not going to change sufficiently to keep us up. Not happening. Don’t be daft!We need to improve our form to top half form, not title winning form or even play off form.If we sign the 4 players mcsheffrey wants then there’s every chance we can turn our form to midtable form
Four players is over a third of the team. Add a few injured players back and that’s over half the team. If our current better performers (and I accept there aren’t many!) can stay fit then there’s no reason not to think an upturn in performances and results is very much achievable. Will it be enough to keep us up? That’s a tough ask so you could be forgiven for saying probably not. But dickos is right to point out it’s possible, of course it is. We need the new players in, and we need to get behind the team.
Doncaster Rovers: Gary McSheffrey accuses players of ‘shirking responsibility’ (Yorkshire Post) Trouble in the camp already? It is certainly true!
A lot been made of the 4 players agreed and shortly inbound comment in December but I listened to GM interview after the Fleetwood game and that was down to Two possible and a couple of irons in the fire. Someone’s not being straight with the fans.
Quote from: Jersey Rover on January 10, 2022, 03:21:11 pmA lot been made of the 4 players agreed and shortly inbound comment in December but I listened to GM interview after the Fleetwood game and that was down to Two possible and a couple of irons in the fire. Someone’s not being straight with the fans.Are they backing out already, have we had to look at different players.
Quote from: steve@dcfd on January 10, 2022, 03:37:25 pmQuote from: Jersey Rover on January 10, 2022, 03:21:11 pmA lot been made of the 4 players agreed and shortly inbound comment in December but I listened to GM interview after the Fleetwood game and that was down to Two possible and a couple of irons in the fire. Someone’s not being straight with the fans.Are they backing out already, have we had to look at different players.Nope!But I wish supporters wouldn't take what managers say as gospel, remember these guys are juggling with lots of balls at the same time and are not necessarily media trained. Some managers will want to play up their actions and others will play down the situation.Many a time I've had to question what a manager has had to say when I've been told something different and usually its the manager telling it differently to suit another agenda. Darren Moore was absolutely terrible at that.It's not about being straight or honest, its just a fact of life.
Quote from: silent majority on January 10, 2022, 03:43:50 pmQuote from: steve@dcfd on January 10, 2022, 03:37:25 pmQuote from: Jersey Rover on January 10, 2022, 03:21:11 pmA lot been made of the 4 players agreed and shortly inbound comment in December but I listened to GM interview after the Fleetwood game and that was down to Two possible and a couple of irons in the fire. Someone’s not being straight with the fans.Are they backing out already, have we had to look at different players.Nope!But I wish supporters wouldn't take what managers say as gospel, remember these guys are juggling with lots of balls at the same time and are not necessarily media trained. Some managers will want to play up their actions and others will play down the situation.Many a time I've had to question what a manager has had to say when I've been told something different and usually its the manager telling it differently to suit another agenda. Darren Moore was absolutely terrible at that.It's not about being straight or honest, its just a fact of life.Surely they must realise the signing of these players is becoming more urgent as every game goes by.
Quote from: Barmby Rover on January 10, 2022, 03:19:23 pmDoncaster Rovers: Gary McSheffrey accuses players of ‘shirking responsibility’ (Yorkshire Post) Trouble in the camp already? It is certainly true!Come on this nice enthusiastic manager can’t be blaming the players. Is he realising they are not as good as he thought.
He said today that we could have one of the strongest teams in the division for the last 10 games with a couple of new players and our injuries back, personally I think he is way out with that prediction but time will tell
30 points wouldn’t be enough!