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Uh oh,Erdogan says Turkey will limit Russian access to the Black Sea. How do they propose to do that???And let's not forget Turkey is a NATO member. Erdogan apparently isn't happy with the western response. Not robust enough for his liking...
Quote from: River Don on February 28, 2022, 06:32:10 pmUh oh,Erdogan says Turkey will limit Russian access to the Black Sea. How do they propose to do that???And let's not forget Turkey is a NATO member. Erdogan apparently isn't happy with the western response. Not robust enough for his liking...Turkey own the straits around its country which Russia use to access the Black Sea. They have legal rights to close the straits during times of war, it wouldn't stop Russian ships returning to Russia via the straits, but would stop Russia send further ships through to Ukraine
Ukraine elected a comedian. And got a leader. We elected a leader. And got a comedian.
Some of us wanted Abbott and Corbyn - We'd have been better with Abbott and Costello.
Quote from: Bentley Bullet on February 28, 2022, 07:52:57 pmSome of us wanted Abbott and Corbyn - We'd have been better with Abbott and Costello.Well done. You've surpassed yourself again. Nothing to offer on the biggest crisis in Europe in 75 years. Just more political point scoring. You must be very proud of yourself.
Erdogan has a lot of previous with Putin. He's been badly bullied more than once. I suspect revenge might be a motive here. Bloody dangerous if so.BobG
How many of us would be as brave as this?https://mobile.twitter.com/GirkinGirkin/status/1498361635605561348
Interesting that the kleptocrats have started coming out calling for peace.Deripaska, Lebedev, Friedman, all saying this has to stop.Is it virtue signalling, or are they going (or are they even able) to put pressure on Putin.I'll be honest, I still don't really know if Putin controls the kleptocrats, or they control him.
Based on the conversation Macron has had with mad vlad today I’d do this. Tell him NATO and EU guarantee Ukraine’s neutrality. Stop the war as a result. Wait till he croaks it and then move the goalposts. Bide time, save lives.
Quote from: DRFC_TID_93 on February 28, 2022, 06:59:56 pmQuote from: River Don on February 28, 2022, 06:32:10 pmUh oh,Erdogan says Turkey will limit Russian access to the Black Sea. How do they propose to do that???And let's not forget Turkey is a NATO member. Erdogan apparently isn't happy with the western response. Not robust enough for his liking...Turkey own the straits around its country which Russia use to access the Black Sea. They have legal rights to close the straits during times of war, it wouldn't stop Russian ships returning to Russia via the straits, but would stop Russia send further ships through to UkraineRight. And Russia says we're coming through anyway... What does Turkey do then?
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on February 28, 2022, 08:00:30 pmQuote from: Bentley Bullet on February 28, 2022, 07:52:57 pmSome of us wanted Abbott and Corbyn - We'd have been better with Abbott and Costello.Well done. You've surpassed yourself again. Nothing to offer on the biggest crisis in Europe in 75 years. Just more political point scoring. You must be very proud of yourself. Have you read BobG's post, you clown?
Quote from: Bentley Bullet on February 28, 2022, 08:04:14 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on February 28, 2022, 08:00:30 pmQuote from: Bentley Bullet on February 28, 2022, 07:52:57 pmSome of us wanted Abbott and Corbyn - We'd have been better with Abbott and Costello.Well done. You've surpassed yourself again. Nothing to offer on the biggest crisis in Europe in 75 years. Just more political point scoring. You must be very proud of yourself. Have you read BobG's post, you clown?Yes. And he's also contributed to the wider debate. You have given zero.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on February 28, 2022, 08:00:30 pmQuote from: Bentley Bullet on February 28, 2022, 07:52:57 pmSome of us wanted Abbott and Corbyn - We'd have been better with Abbott and Costello.Well done. You've surpassed yourself again. Nothing to offer on the biggest crisis in Europe in 75 years. Just more political point scoring. You must be very proud of yourself. Have you read BobG's post, you clown?
Quote from: Bentley Bullet on February 28, 2022, 07:52:57 pmSome of us wanted Abbott and Corbyn - We'd have been better with Abbott and Costello.Well done. You've surpassed yourself again. Nothing to offer on the biggest crisis in Europe in 75 years. Just more political point scoring. You must be very proud of yourself.
Some of us wanted Abbott and Corbyn - We'd have been better with Abbott and Costello.
BB. I really do admire your wit, your panache and your conviction. But this is a little bit serious man. Please. Give over, on this thread at least, from the point scoring. I know you will now point to my humorous post 696 above as the very same thing. But it isn't. It really isn't. It makes a deadly, deadly serious point about the inadequacies of our 'leader' now on display to the entire world. I tried to make it humorous to highlight the message. You have now reinforced that very point with your ill timed and ill considered responseBobG
You really can't even see an olive branch can you BB?BobG