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I read an interview with the current MK Dons manager the other day. Without going into detail, it mentioned that after their last manager left, MK Dons knew the style of play they wanted (and played under their previous manager), used stats such as average possession to find teams successfully playing with that style, narrowed it down to teams whose manager they could realistically poach, and took Liam Manning from a Belgian second division side. They're currently third with what I'd assume is only a slightly bigger budget than ours.The way we recruit managers is incredibly outdated. Look at the awful, long ball style we're often now playing under GM. Totally different to Wellens' style, just as ineffective. We need a very big rethink over the summer.
Quote from: Ronnie Dovers on March 20, 2022, 07:38:05 pmI read an interview with the current MK Dons manager the other day. Without going into detail, it mentioned that after their last manager left, MK Dons knew the style of play they wanted (and played under their previous manager), used stats such as average possession to find teams successfully playing with that style, narrowed it down to teams whose manager they could realistically poach, and took Liam Manning from a Belgian second division side. They're currently third with what I'd assume is only a slightly bigger budget than ours.The way we recruit managers is incredibly outdated. Look at the awful, long ball style we're often now playing under GM. Totally different to Wellens' style, just as ineffective. We need a very big rethink over the summer.This is similar to how a lot of German clubs operate, with a director of football (or its equivalent) being central to the long-term progress of the club. Unfortunately our board prefer to recruit a football manager in the same way a non-football business would recruit a manager. Our method of appointing managers is not fit for purpose and, in my opinion, the lack of a DoF is fundamental to the predicament we find ourselves in.The really frustrating thing is that this really isn't hard to fix, yet we've been having the same debates for years now.
Quote from: ChrisBx on March 20, 2022, 08:26:15 pmQuote from: Ronnie Dovers on March 20, 2022, 07:38:05 pmI read an interview with the current MK Dons manager the other day. Without going into detail, it mentioned that after their last manager left, MK Dons knew the style of play they wanted (and played under their previous manager), used stats such as average possession to find teams successfully playing with that style, narrowed it down to teams whose manager they could realistically poach, and took Liam Manning from a Belgian second division side. They're currently third with what I'd assume is only a slightly bigger budget than ours.The way we recruit managers is incredibly outdated. Look at the awful, long ball style we're often now playing under GM. Totally different to Wellens' style, just as ineffective. We need a very big rethink over the summer.This is similar to how a lot of German clubs operate, with a director of football (or its equivalent) being central to the long-term progress of the club. Unfortunately our board prefer to recruit a football manager in the same way a non-football business would recruit a manager. Our method of appointing managers is not fit for purpose and, in my opinion, the lack of a DoF is fundamental to the predicament we find ourselves in.The really frustrating thing is that this really isn't hard to fix, yet we've been having the same debates for years now.Can you tell me how many teams in LG1 and Lg2 operate with a Dof?
Quote from: silent majority on March 21, 2022, 01:03:06 amQuote from: ChrisBx on March 20, 2022, 08:26:15 pmQuote from: Ronnie Dovers on March 20, 2022, 07:38:05 pmI read an interview with the current MK Dons manager the other day. Without going into detail, it mentioned that after their last manager left, MK Dons knew the style of play they wanted (and played under their previous manager), used stats such as average possession to find teams successfully playing with that style, narrowed it down to teams whose manager they could realistically poach, and took Liam Manning from a Belgian second division side. They're currently third with what I'd assume is only a slightly bigger budget than ours.The way we recruit managers is incredibly outdated. Look at the awful, long ball style we're often now playing under GM. Totally different to Wellens' style, just as ineffective. We need a very big rethink over the summer.This is similar to how a lot of German clubs operate, with a director of football (or its equivalent) being central to the long-term progress of the club. Unfortunately our board prefer to recruit a football manager in the same way a non-football business would recruit a manager. Our method of appointing managers is not fit for purpose and, in my opinion, the lack of a DoF is fundamental to the predicament we find ourselves in.The really frustrating thing is that this really isn't hard to fix, yet we've been having the same debates for years now.Can you tell me how many teams in LG1 and Lg2 operate with a Dof?Whatever happened to this?“We will get the best football manager we can or the best head coach we can and build the structure around that person and it will be done in partnership with them. It may not be a director of football or a head of football operations. It may be something more imaginative. It will be an open process but we’re open minded about what it looks like in the end. But we are adamant that we need to provide support to that person so they can concentrate on giving us the best chance to stay in the league.”
None of them going for automatic promotion then.
I am not bothered who is in charge of the club, If the player manager of this club at the end of the season does not get rid of some of the players at the club we will not do anything in whatever division we are in next season. The team manager or whoever it may be, will be judged by myself as much for who he gets rid of as to who we bring in at the end of this season, we simply cannot afford to carry some of the dross we presently have on the playing staff either because of fitness or ability.
Their 12 league games before saw 9 defeats and 3 draws. A return of 3 points from possible 36 points.
I'm also interested to read SM's reply about a DoF after he suggested it's not the done thing at this level.
Quote from: ChrisBx on March 26, 2022, 06:46:53 pmI'm also interested to read SM's reply about a DoF after he suggested it's not the done thing at this level.Did I??
Quote from: silent majority on March 26, 2022, 07:36:28 pmQuote from: ChrisBx on March 26, 2022, 06:46:53 pmI'm also interested to read SM's reply about a DoF after he suggested it's not the done thing at this level.Did I??If that's not the point you were making then why ask the question?It has since been pointed out that you previously posted that we would be recruiting someone in a DoF-type role (making your question as to how many other L1 and L2 clubs operate with one even more odd). Where are they?
Quote from: ChrisBx on March 26, 2022, 07:47:44 pmQuote from: silent majority on March 26, 2022, 07:36:28 pmQuote from: ChrisBx on March 26, 2022, 06:46:53 pmI'm also interested to read SM's reply about a DoF after he suggested it's not the done thing at this level.Did I??If that's not the point you were making then why ask the question?It has since been pointed out that you previously posted that we would be recruiting someone in a DoF-type role (making your question as to how many other L1 and L2 clubs operate with one even more odd). Where are they?You're assuming that was my point.
Quote from: silent majority on March 26, 2022, 08:40:51 pmQuote from: ChrisBx on March 26, 2022, 07:47:44 pmQuote from: silent majority on March 26, 2022, 07:36:28 pmQuote from: ChrisBx on March 26, 2022, 06:46:53 pmI'm also interested to read SM's reply about a DoF after he suggested it's not the done thing at this level.Did I??If that's not the point you were making then why ask the question?It has since been pointed out that you previously posted that we would be recruiting someone in a DoF-type role (making your question as to how many other L1 and L2 clubs operate with one even more odd). Where are they?You're assuming that was my point.You could have simply said what your point is.Either way, you said "there's much more to it than that. It will be a DoF type role, just that the actual title might be something else."When will this person be appointed?
Quote from: silent majority on March 26, 2022, 08:40:51 pmQuote from: ChrisBx on March 26, 2022, 07:47:44 pmQuote from: silent majority on March 26, 2022, 07:36:28 pmQuote from: ChrisBx on March 26, 2022, 06:46:53 pmI'm also interested to read SM's reply about a DoF after he suggested it's not the done thing at this level.Did I??If that's not the point you were making then why ask the question?It has since been pointed out that you previously posted that we would be recruiting someone in a DoF-type role (making your question as to how many other L1 and L2 clubs operate with one even more odd). Where are they?You're assuming that was my point.SM do you think it’s a role that would help us with the decisions we seem to be getting wrong? The recruitment of managers and generally has gone downhill recently the club must acknowledge that