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Quote from: RoversAlias on April 19, 2022, 12:54:27 pmI think things like this need to be put to the club. It has been clear for a while that we are lagging far behind on the data/analytics front which is starting to take over the sport. Appointments like Graham Younger proved that we aren't where we need to be.Does SM or anyone know if there is any scope to get this point made to Baldwin or Blunt?I'd just like to add that both Gaz and myself met up with Gavin some months ago and explored lots of these topics and subject areas. So, its fair to say that Gavin has been looking at changing the structure and the mode of thinking around the club.I'm sure more of that will become apparent once changes have been implemented.
I think things like this need to be put to the club. It has been clear for a while that we are lagging far behind on the data/analytics front which is starting to take over the sport. Appointments like Graham Younger proved that we aren't where we need to be.Does SM or anyone know if there is any scope to get this point made to Baldwin or Blunt?
The data analyst’s must be good at their jobs, ours obviously haven’t been to bring up so many dud signings.Supporters rep’s seem to love having the inside info and not being able to share it. But when questioned on what they do, do, they don’t like it. I don’t see any representation of our fans coming from those who have been in the job.Devaluing fellow supporters opinions as though they are better than others. A reality check is needed. Remember what you are there for and it’s not yourself.
Quote from: NickDRFC on April 20, 2022, 05:17:41 pmQuote from: silent majority on April 20, 2022, 05:12:43 pmQuote from: NickDRFC on April 20, 2022, 05:04:11 pmQuote from: silent majority on April 20, 2022, 04:41:26 pmQuote from: GazLaz on April 20, 2022, 09:33:22 amQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on April 20, 2022, 12:21:34 amSWCKNo-one is saying to use them blindly. The point is that if you don't use them intelligently and other clubs do, you're immediately at a disadvantage.If you want to get the most efficiency out of your car, you'd be daft to ignore the trip computer data. That doesn't mean you don't have to use the steering wheel as well while you're driving. Let’s be straight. Every club used data. Whoever uses it best has the advantage. Most clubs use it at face value (dangerous) and think they are being smart and others pay lip service to it and when it comes down to making big decisions they revert to type. If you have systems in place it can create accountability, you can see how and when you go wrong clearly and adjust the way you work. “Football” people are reluctant to embrace it fully because then they would feel out of control. The non ex players/ managers are the ones having the real success running football clubs now. That's a very interesting point, that football people are the ones who would be reluctant.I know Gavin would give this his support because its something that has cropped up in conversation a few times. I can't speak for DB though, I've not discussed football issues with him as such.If David Blunt is in charge of the football side of the club and Gavin Baldwin has nothing to do with it, why haven’t you discussed football issues with Blunt? Surely that’s who the supporters representative should be speaking to?You think I should be discussing football issues? A couple of things;1) I'm not the only supporter rep.2) Football issues are NOT our area of responsibility.Yet you’ve discussed football issues with Gavin Baldwin?Yes of course I do, but its not an official request or part of my remit. Yes, we ask for an understanding of where the club is going and, just like other supporters, we show a great deal of interest. General interest is good to know so we can relay some of that back, but what happens on the pitch can't be affected by us and nor should it be.I can request changes to season ticket pricing, stewarding issues, and activities off the pitch, etc. But footballing issues, what happens on that green stuff, isn't part of it.And even if it was, who's opinion would I represent? None of you can agree from one Saturday to the next, so what would you expect me to suggest?I know you like to be contrary to all my posts Nick, but this is a weird one, even for you.
Quote from: silent majority on April 20, 2022, 05:12:43 pmQuote from: NickDRFC on April 20, 2022, 05:04:11 pmQuote from: silent majority on April 20, 2022, 04:41:26 pmQuote from: GazLaz on April 20, 2022, 09:33:22 amQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on April 20, 2022, 12:21:34 amSWCKNo-one is saying to use them blindly. The point is that if you don't use them intelligently and other clubs do, you're immediately at a disadvantage.If you want to get the most efficiency out of your car, you'd be daft to ignore the trip computer data. That doesn't mean you don't have to use the steering wheel as well while you're driving. Let’s be straight. Every club used data. Whoever uses it best has the advantage. Most clubs use it at face value (dangerous) and think they are being smart and others pay lip service to it and when it comes down to making big decisions they revert to type. If you have systems in place it can create accountability, you can see how and when you go wrong clearly and adjust the way you work. “Football” people are reluctant to embrace it fully because then they would feel out of control. The non ex players/ managers are the ones having the real success running football clubs now. That's a very interesting point, that football people are the ones who would be reluctant.I know Gavin would give this his support because its something that has cropped up in conversation a few times. I can't speak for DB though, I've not discussed football issues with him as such.If David Blunt is in charge of the football side of the club and Gavin Baldwin has nothing to do with it, why haven’t you discussed football issues with Blunt? Surely that’s who the supporters representative should be speaking to?You think I should be discussing football issues? A couple of things;1) I'm not the only supporter rep.2) Football issues are NOT our area of responsibility.Yet you’ve discussed football issues with Gavin Baldwin?
Quote from: NickDRFC on April 20, 2022, 05:04:11 pmQuote from: silent majority on April 20, 2022, 04:41:26 pmQuote from: GazLaz on April 20, 2022, 09:33:22 amQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on April 20, 2022, 12:21:34 amSWCKNo-one is saying to use them blindly. The point is that if you don't use them intelligently and other clubs do, you're immediately at a disadvantage.If you want to get the most efficiency out of your car, you'd be daft to ignore the trip computer data. That doesn't mean you don't have to use the steering wheel as well while you're driving. Let’s be straight. Every club used data. Whoever uses it best has the advantage. Most clubs use it at face value (dangerous) and think they are being smart and others pay lip service to it and when it comes down to making big decisions they revert to type. If you have systems in place it can create accountability, you can see how and when you go wrong clearly and adjust the way you work. “Football” people are reluctant to embrace it fully because then they would feel out of control. The non ex players/ managers are the ones having the real success running football clubs now. That's a very interesting point, that football people are the ones who would be reluctant.I know Gavin would give this his support because its something that has cropped up in conversation a few times. I can't speak for DB though, I've not discussed football issues with him as such.If David Blunt is in charge of the football side of the club and Gavin Baldwin has nothing to do with it, why haven’t you discussed football issues with Blunt? Surely that’s who the supporters representative should be speaking to?You think I should be discussing football issues? A couple of things;1) I'm not the only supporter rep.2) Football issues are NOT our area of responsibility.
Quote from: silent majority on April 20, 2022, 04:41:26 pmQuote from: GazLaz on April 20, 2022, 09:33:22 amQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on April 20, 2022, 12:21:34 amSWCKNo-one is saying to use them blindly. The point is that if you don't use them intelligently and other clubs do, you're immediately at a disadvantage.If you want to get the most efficiency out of your car, you'd be daft to ignore the trip computer data. That doesn't mean you don't have to use the steering wheel as well while you're driving. Let’s be straight. Every club used data. Whoever uses it best has the advantage. Most clubs use it at face value (dangerous) and think they are being smart and others pay lip service to it and when it comes down to making big decisions they revert to type. If you have systems in place it can create accountability, you can see how and when you go wrong clearly and adjust the way you work. “Football” people are reluctant to embrace it fully because then they would feel out of control. The non ex players/ managers are the ones having the real success running football clubs now. That's a very interesting point, that football people are the ones who would be reluctant.I know Gavin would give this his support because its something that has cropped up in conversation a few times. I can't speak for DB though, I've not discussed football issues with him as such.If David Blunt is in charge of the football side of the club and Gavin Baldwin has nothing to do with it, why haven’t you discussed football issues with Blunt? Surely that’s who the supporters representative should be speaking to?
Quote from: GazLaz on April 20, 2022, 09:33:22 amQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on April 20, 2022, 12:21:34 amSWCKNo-one is saying to use them blindly. The point is that if you don't use them intelligently and other clubs do, you're immediately at a disadvantage.If you want to get the most efficiency out of your car, you'd be daft to ignore the trip computer data. That doesn't mean you don't have to use the steering wheel as well while you're driving. Let’s be straight. Every club used data. Whoever uses it best has the advantage. Most clubs use it at face value (dangerous) and think they are being smart and others pay lip service to it and when it comes down to making big decisions they revert to type. If you have systems in place it can create accountability, you can see how and when you go wrong clearly and adjust the way you work. “Football” people are reluctant to embrace it fully because then they would feel out of control. The non ex players/ managers are the ones having the real success running football clubs now. That's a very interesting point, that football people are the ones who would be reluctant.I know Gavin would give this his support because its something that has cropped up in conversation a few times. I can't speak for DB though, I've not discussed football issues with him as such.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on April 20, 2022, 12:21:34 amSWCKNo-one is saying to use them blindly. The point is that if you don't use them intelligently and other clubs do, you're immediately at a disadvantage.If you want to get the most efficiency out of your car, you'd be daft to ignore the trip computer data. That doesn't mean you don't have to use the steering wheel as well while you're driving. Let’s be straight. Every club used data. Whoever uses it best has the advantage. Most clubs use it at face value (dangerous) and think they are being smart and others pay lip service to it and when it comes down to making big decisions they revert to type. If you have systems in place it can create accountability, you can see how and when you go wrong clearly and adjust the way you work. “Football” people are reluctant to embrace it fully because then they would feel out of control. The non ex players/ managers are the ones having the real success running football clubs now.
SWCKNo-one is saying to use them blindly. The point is that if you don't use them intelligently and other clubs do, you're immediately at a disadvantage.If you want to get the most efficiency out of your car, you'd be daft to ignore the trip computer data. That doesn't mean you don't have to use the steering wheel as well while you're driving.
If Blunt has been making a lot of the football decisions, then he has failed in his job. You don’t have to sack him, give him another job more suited to his skills.Football decisions need to be made by football men. Business may be his strong point.Apparently Blunt played profesional football for Bradford PA in the 60sThe board needs to be quick thinking, innovative and right as much as possible.If they aren’t going to sell, is it time to get younger, more enthusiastic representative’s to do those jobs?, so Terry etc can either step back from things and allow them to have a go.
Quote from: Sammy Chung was King on April 21, 2022, 02:34:23 amIf Blunt has been making a lot of the football decisions, then he has failed in his job. You don’t have to sack him, give him another job more suited to his skills.Football decisions need to be made by football men. Business may be his strong point.Apparently Blunt played profesional football for Bradford PA in the 60sThe board needs to be quick thinking, innovative and right as much as possible.If they aren’t going to sell, is it time to get younger, more enthusiastic representative’s to do those jobs?, so Terry etc can either step back from things and allow them to have a go.
Quote from: drfc1951 on April 21, 2022, 05:24:55 pmQuote from: Sammy Chung was King on April 21, 2022, 02:34:23 amIf Blunt has been making a lot of the football decisions, then he has failed in his job. You don’t have to sack him, give him another job more suited to his skills.Football decisions need to be made by football men. Business may be his strong point.Apparently Blunt played profesional football for Bradford PA in the 60sThe board needs to be quick thinking, innovative and right as much as possible.If they aren’t going to sell, is it time to get younger, more enthusiastic representative’s to do those jobs?, so Terry etc can either step back from things and allow them to have a go.He played in just 2 games for BPA, that his full professional football career!!