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No it’s just the way of the world as it is. The club would get criticised if they didn’t have this in place. Why look for hidden agendas in everything
Quote from: roversdude on May 11, 2022, 09:20:58 amNo it’s just the way of the world as it is. The club would get criticised if they didn’t have this in place. Why look for hidden agendas in everythingNot looking for hidden agendas at all. Simply posing a topic for discussion.I suppose I'm curious to understand what they interpret as abuse going forward.Is putting Baldwin's face on a Netto logo abuse?Is sending a tweet directly to a player saying, you played sh*t today abuse?Where does the line get drawn...
Quote from: Daniel_Smith on May 11, 2022, 09:28:05 amQuote from: roversdude on May 11, 2022, 09:20:58 amNo it’s just the way of the world as it is. The club would get criticised if they didn’t have this in place. Why look for hidden agendas in everythingNot looking for hidden agendas at all. Simply posing a topic for discussion.I suppose I'm curious to understand what they interpret as abuse going forward.Is putting Baldwin's face on a Netto logo abuse?Is sending a tweet directly to a player saying, you played sh*t today abuse?Where does the line get drawn...Daniel how would you answer the questions you posed
Satire should be at least mildly amusing though?
Quote from: Ldr on May 11, 2022, 10:23:12 amSatire should be at least mildly amusing though?Whether you find it funny or not doesn't discount the fact it exists as a satirical statement though.Google's definition on satire: "the use of humour, irony, exaggeration, or ridicule to expose and criticise people's stupidity or vices, particularly in the context of contemporary politics and other topical issues."I know some will say Baldwin doesn't deserve said ridicule, but again - others say he does.
I think the very fact people do not realise what is deemed right or wrong, and feel they can post what they want about people because they pay £5-£25 for a game, might have been a reason I don’t thinks it’s a closed shop, just a need to protect the club as a whole. There will and should always be a professional way to talk with the club through fan funnels like the VSC
The very valid criticism is that our healthy budget for League One has been consistently wasted for a number of seasons now, with money pissed away on loans, the injury prone, panic signings and clearly inappropriate players for this level. The budget itself is not the issue. It is how this has been misused that is the problem.
I'd also add - those who are quite happy with how the club is being run, are as guilty as those who don't at being abusive to other supporters who don't share their viewpoint.I've read some very disappointing comments from fans of Balwin / McSheffrey / the board directed at the aforementioned's critics.
A lot of valid points raised. I don't think anyone deserves unwarranted, vile abuse - whether you're a fan, player or club employee.Criticism of the club should be protected from being classed as abuse, as long as it is done in a non abusive way though. Some have different opinions on what is abusive criticism though. That's the issue I guess.I'd also add - those who are quite happy with how the club is being run, are as guilty as those who don't at being abusive to other supporters who don't share their viewpoint.I've read some very disappointing comments from fans of Balwin / McSheffrey / the board directed at the aforementioned's critics.
Quote from: Chris Black come back on May 11, 2022, 12:55:25 pmThe very valid criticism is that our healthy budget for League One has been consistently wasted for a number of seasons now, with money pissed away on loans, the injury prone, panic signings and clearly inappropriate players for this level. The budget itself is not the issue. It is how this has been misused that is the problem. Ta, this makes sense. But wouldn't be what I'd instantly draw from the 'Netto' sloganing... hence me not understanding it.
Quote from: VivaRovers on May 11, 2022, 03:37:34 pmQuote from: Chris Black come back on May 11, 2022, 12:55:25 pmThe very valid criticism is that our healthy budget for League One has been consistently wasted for a number of seasons now, with money pissed away on loans, the injury prone, panic signings and clearly inappropriate players for this level. The budget itself is not the issue. It is how this has been misused that is the problem. Ta, this makes sense. But wouldn't be what I'd instantly draw from the 'Netto' sloganing... hence me not understanding it.My point was rather that the Netto squad have totally missed the point. It is not tight-fistedness that is the issue, it is amateur hour recruitment that was / is the issues. They’ve totally missed the target.
The proof point is this. I don’t see us for a minute being in the top tier of League One clubs in terms of resources - Sunderland, Owls, Ipswich, Portsmouth, etc. We are just about holding on at bottom of that second tier - MK Dons, Oxford, Lincoln. Would any of these have ended up with Kwame or Bogle? We’ve made some shocking decisions the last few years. Money has been absolutely thrown away and given this all ultimately comes back to Terry, I am amazed he is not asking more questions.
Quote from: Daniel_Smith on May 11, 2022, 03:44:35 pmI'd also add - those who are quite happy with how the club is being run, are as guilty as those who don't at being abusive to other supporters who don't share their viewpoint.I've read some very disappointing comments from fans of Balwin / McSheffrey / the board directed at the aforementioned's critics.This sort of thing though, whilst very much a problem, isn't and can't be covered by a club issued social media code – something I think a few people on twitter yesterday commenting on this announcement weren't quite understanding. A club introduced social media code can only act on comments directed at (tagging in) the club or its personnel.If one fan is abusive to another on social media, there is nothing a club social media code can do at that point. That comes down to individuals and their (mis)use of the social media channel.
Plus Netto has not existed for years