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Ash Hunter's probably more what were after, of available free agents. Left wing with decent creativity numbers.
Quote from: DonnyOsmond on June 22, 2022, 08:42:39 amAsh Hunter's probably more what were after, of available free agents. Left wing with decent creativity numbers.I agree. He would be brilliant on the left and I suggested him to Copps. We really do need more creativity in the team.
Quote from: ncRover on June 22, 2022, 09:03:52 amQuote from: Campsall rover on June 22, 2022, 08:36:46 amQuote from: danumdon on June 22, 2022, 01:23:10 amQuote from: DonnyBazR0ver on June 22, 2022, 12:21:13 amI know we tend to resort to thinking we need a back to goal player who can hold the ball up, but we don't necessarily need that sort of forward if we play on the deck football through the lines. I'm sure McSheffrey/Copps/Eyre have thought long and hard about this. Sometimes, when all else fails we look to a big man, so maybe as a plan b but we could be looking at a fluid front line where much of the success comes facing goal. If deliveries are on the money then the positioning , runs and anticipation make up for lack of height. When we look back at our most recent good spell with Whiteman dictating play, many of our goals were scored through creating overloads with players running onto things. With Miller, Molyneux, Griffiths, Agard, Taylor, Rowe and even Barlow in the mix, they could be attacking the box from all angles. Agree with your synopsis. I big hold up player can become a negative if it leads the team to trying to play to that strength all the time, Unless this player is going to someone like Smith at Rotherham who can play the back to gaol position but also has enough about him to be able to adapt in his play, very rare at out level and costlyIm liking the fact we're buying into the quick, smart and positive type of forward who can run at a defence, commit them, get around the back and distribute or run onto forward balls to create opportunities, much better to watch and if worked well will excite the fans enough to want to watch this type of football.We need a plan A & B though ideally. We still played good football when Marquis was here. I don’t mean we need a 6ft 3in centre forward just someone who can hold the ball up and we can keep possession. There is more than one way of playing football of course but at the end of the day whatever way GM wants to play it is a simple game really which at times is made far too complicated. Pass and move, pass and move pass and move, shoot. Just like that. Simples As effective as Miller may be, I’ve seen people say he needs someone to play off. McSheffrey said in his interview he can play off a big man, which I was thought was interesting as we don’t have one yet. Isn't Dodoo one of the best target men around?
Quote from: Campsall rover on June 22, 2022, 08:36:46 amQuote from: danumdon on June 22, 2022, 01:23:10 amQuote from: DonnyBazR0ver on June 22, 2022, 12:21:13 amI know we tend to resort to thinking we need a back to goal player who can hold the ball up, but we don't necessarily need that sort of forward if we play on the deck football through the lines. I'm sure McSheffrey/Copps/Eyre have thought long and hard about this. Sometimes, when all else fails we look to a big man, so maybe as a plan b but we could be looking at a fluid front line where much of the success comes facing goal. If deliveries are on the money then the positioning , runs and anticipation make up for lack of height. When we look back at our most recent good spell with Whiteman dictating play, many of our goals were scored through creating overloads with players running onto things. With Miller, Molyneux, Griffiths, Agard, Taylor, Rowe and even Barlow in the mix, they could be attacking the box from all angles. Agree with your synopsis. I big hold up player can become a negative if it leads the team to trying to play to that strength all the time, Unless this player is going to someone like Smith at Rotherham who can play the back to gaol position but also has enough about him to be able to adapt in his play, very rare at out level and costlyIm liking the fact we're buying into the quick, smart and positive type of forward who can run at a defence, commit them, get around the back and distribute or run onto forward balls to create opportunities, much better to watch and if worked well will excite the fans enough to want to watch this type of football.We need a plan A & B though ideally. We still played good football when Marquis was here. I don’t mean we need a 6ft 3in centre forward just someone who can hold the ball up and we can keep possession. There is more than one way of playing football of course but at the end of the day whatever way GM wants to play it is a simple game really which at times is made far too complicated. Pass and move, pass and move pass and move, shoot. Just like that. Simples As effective as Miller may be, I’ve seen people say he needs someone to play off. McSheffrey said in his interview he can play off a big man, which I was thought was interesting as we don’t have one yet.
Quote from: danumdon on June 22, 2022, 01:23:10 amQuote from: DonnyBazR0ver on June 22, 2022, 12:21:13 amI know we tend to resort to thinking we need a back to goal player who can hold the ball up, but we don't necessarily need that sort of forward if we play on the deck football through the lines. I'm sure McSheffrey/Copps/Eyre have thought long and hard about this. Sometimes, when all else fails we look to a big man, so maybe as a plan b but we could be looking at a fluid front line where much of the success comes facing goal. If deliveries are on the money then the positioning , runs and anticipation make up for lack of height. When we look back at our most recent good spell with Whiteman dictating play, many of our goals were scored through creating overloads with players running onto things. With Miller, Molyneux, Griffiths, Agard, Taylor, Rowe and even Barlow in the mix, they could be attacking the box from all angles. Agree with your synopsis. I big hold up player can become a negative if it leads the team to trying to play to that strength all the time, Unless this player is going to someone like Smith at Rotherham who can play the back to gaol position but also has enough about him to be able to adapt in his play, very rare at out level and costlyIm liking the fact we're buying into the quick, smart and positive type of forward who can run at a defence, commit them, get around the back and distribute or run onto forward balls to create opportunities, much better to watch and if worked well will excite the fans enough to want to watch this type of football.We need a plan A & B though ideally. We still played good football when Marquis was here. I don’t mean we need a 6ft 3in centre forward just someone who can hold the ball up and we can keep possession. There is more than one way of playing football of course but at the end of the day whatever way GM wants to play it is a simple game really which at times is made far too complicated. Pass and move, pass and move pass and move, shoot. Just like that. Simples
Quote from: DonnyBazR0ver on June 22, 2022, 12:21:13 amI know we tend to resort to thinking we need a back to goal player who can hold the ball up, but we don't necessarily need that sort of forward if we play on the deck football through the lines. I'm sure McSheffrey/Copps/Eyre have thought long and hard about this. Sometimes, when all else fails we look to a big man, so maybe as a plan b but we could be looking at a fluid front line where much of the success comes facing goal. If deliveries are on the money then the positioning , runs and anticipation make up for lack of height. When we look back at our most recent good spell with Whiteman dictating play, many of our goals were scored through creating overloads with players running onto things. With Miller, Molyneux, Griffiths, Agard, Taylor, Rowe and even Barlow in the mix, they could be attacking the box from all angles. Agree with your synopsis. I big hold up player can become a negative if it leads the team to trying to play to that strength all the time, Unless this player is going to someone like Smith at Rotherham who can play the back to gaol position but also has enough about him to be able to adapt in his play, very rare at out level and costlyIm liking the fact we're buying into the quick, smart and positive type of forward who can run at a defence, commit them, get around the back and distribute or run onto forward balls to create opportunities, much better to watch and if worked well will excite the fans enough to want to watch this type of football.
I know we tend to resort to thinking we need a back to goal player who can hold the ball up, but we don't necessarily need that sort of forward if we play on the deck football through the lines. I'm sure McSheffrey/Copps/Eyre have thought long and hard about this. Sometimes, when all else fails we look to a big man, so maybe as a plan b but we could be looking at a fluid front line where much of the success comes facing goal. If deliveries are on the money then the positioning , runs and anticipation make up for lack of height. When we look back at our most recent good spell with Whiteman dictating play, many of our goals were scored through creating overloads with players running onto things. With Miller, Molyneux, Griffiths, Agard, Taylor, Rowe and even Barlow in the mix, they could be attacking the box from all angles.
Quote from: GazLaz on June 22, 2022, 10:24:34 amQuote from: DonnyOsmond on June 22, 2022, 08:42:39 amAsh Hunter's probably more what were after, of available free agents. Left wing with decent creativity numbers.I agree. He would be brilliant on the left and I suggested him to Copps. We really do need more creativity in the team. Someone with creativity on that left is probably our most important signing at this moment in time, ahead of a left back.
Quote from: DonnyOsmond on June 22, 2022, 10:47:34 amQuote from: GazLaz on June 22, 2022, 10:24:34 amQuote from: DonnyOsmond on June 22, 2022, 08:42:39 amAsh Hunter's probably more what were after, of available free agents. Left wing with decent creativity numbers.I agree. He would be brilliant on the left and I suggested him to Copps. We really do need more creativity in the team. Someone with creativity on that left is probably our most important signing at this moment in time, ahead of a left back.But we don’t have a left back?
My Poolie mate sent me this “Now Yorkie, we all thought Mols was off to Peterborough. I saw him make his debut for Sunderland out wide against Wolves as a late sub. Beat his man on a couple of occasions. Was hit and miss under Dave Challinor who played him behind the front man and it wasn't really his game. Came into his own under Graeme Lee who played him out wide and cuts in from the wing. Ended up as our leading goal scorer with I think eleven goals. Also won player of the year award but personally he would have been my third choice. On the down side he is bit of a one trick pony coming in from the left and putting in a curling shot in which tended end up in the middle of the goal and straight into the keepers arms. Mind when he got it right some wonderful goals. He won our goal of the season v Harrogate away. Well worth a look on You tube.Also had a tendency to drift in and out of games”
Thought Tommy was our left sided player
Quote from: roversdude on June 21, 2022, 09:18:21 pmMy Poolie mate sent me this “Now Yorkie, we all thought Mols was off to Peterborough. I saw him make his debut for Sunderland out wide against Wolves as a late sub. Beat his man on a couple of occasions. Was hit and miss under Dave Challinor who played him behind the front man and it wasn't really his game. Came into his own under Graeme Lee who played him out wide and cuts in from the wing. Ended up as our leading goal scorer with I think eleven goals. Also won player of the year award but personally he would have been my third choice. On the down side he is bit of a one trick pony coming in from the left and putting in a curling shot in which tended end up in the middle of the goal and straight into the keepers arms. Mind when he got it right some wonderful goals. He won our goal of the season v Harrogate away. Well worth a look on You tube.Also had a tendency to drift in and out of games”How often did he watch him,He cuts in from the right does'nt he?
Quote from: ncRover on June 22, 2022, 10:52:45 amQuote from: DonnyOsmond on June 22, 2022, 10:47:34 amQuote from: GazLaz on June 22, 2022, 10:24:34 amQuote from: DonnyOsmond on June 22, 2022, 08:42:39 amAsh Hunter's probably more what were after, of available free agents. Left wing with decent creativity numbers.I agree. He would be brilliant on the left and I suggested him to Copps. We really do need more creativity in the team. Someone with creativity on that left is probably our most important signing at this moment in time, ahead of a left back.But we don’t have a left back?I'm not saying that we shouldn't bring one in, I'm saying adding creativity is more important for this team then a left back right now but both are needed.
Quote from: Drover on June 22, 2022, 01:31:45 pmQuote from: roversdude on June 21, 2022, 09:18:21 pmMy Poolie mate sent me this “Now Yorkie, we all thought Mols was off to Peterborough. I saw him make his debut for Sunderland out wide against Wolves as a late sub. Beat his man on a couple of occasions. Was hit and miss under Dave Challinor who played him behind the front man and it wasn't really his game. Came into his own under Graeme Lee who played him out wide and cuts in from the wing. Ended up as our leading goal scorer with I think eleven goals. Also won player of the year award but personally he would have been my third choice. On the down side he is bit of a one trick pony coming in from the left and putting in a curling shot in which tended end up in the middle of the goal and straight into the keepers arms. Mind when he got it right some wonderful goals. He won our goal of the season v Harrogate away. Well worth a look on You tube.Also had a tendency to drift in and out of games”How often did he watch him,He cuts in from the right does'nt he?Maybe a typo he watches them home and away
Quote from: DonnyOsmond on June 22, 2022, 10:59:46 amQuote from: ncRover on June 22, 2022, 10:52:45 amQuote from: DonnyOsmond on June 22, 2022, 10:47:34 amQuote from: GazLaz on June 22, 2022, 10:24:34 amQuote from: DonnyOsmond on June 22, 2022, 08:42:39 amAsh Hunter's probably more what were after, of available free agents. Left wing with decent creativity numbers.I agree. He would be brilliant on the left and I suggested him to Copps. We really do need more creativity in the team. Someone with creativity on that left is probably our most important signing at this moment in time, ahead of a left back.But we don’t have a left back?I'm not saying that we shouldn't bring one in, I'm saying adding creativity is more important for this team then a left back right now but both are needed.Disagree Donny O. We desperately need a good solid left back.We will not get promoted if we concede goals for fun like last season.We would need to score 95 if we concede even 65 Good teams are frugal defensively I don’t want us to concede more than 50 this season.
Apart from that clanger on debut v Rotherham what has Mitchell done wrong?Seriously please someone tell me. He had a crap defence in front of him last season and saved us from total humiliation on several occasions if my memory hasn’t gone completely. He isn’t the best keeper we have ever had but he is a very decent one. He couldn’t get in the Hartlepool team because the had a very very good keeper who kept him out.I just don’t get it. Who do some of you expect us to have in goal right now.Any Neil Sullivan’s out there please put you hand up now so GM can see you.We are fine in the keeper Dept and we now have a very experienced coach to help improve him further.
He’s as good a keeper that we have actually owned for some considerable time.
Quote from: Chris Black come back on June 22, 2022, 06:06:47 pmHe’s as good a keeper that we have actually owned for some considerable time.I would agree he's as good as Louis Jones and that's the problem. He was supposed to be better and he isn't.A good keeper can save you 20 points a season, apparently. He cost us plenty. Oxford away, Gillingham at home, Shrewsbury away, Rotherham at homeNot good enough. Maybe the new coach can add something to his game. Wouldn't surprise me if Jones got another run in the side.
We have the same defence, dropping to league two we might concede say sixty odd goals, having conceded 82 goals. Getting a good left back, Tom Anderson back at his best I think you could squeeze that amount down to about the fifty mark. Getting a Close and others back from injury that could bring it down below that mark.We scored thirty seven goals last season. We’ve added Miller who I think can get us around twenty a season, Molyneux 10-15 a season. Griffiths is capable of twenty goals.Rowe is capable of around ten, Biggins will get just under that amount. We need another striker that can weigh in with about fifteen. You would want your defence and other midfielder’s not mentioned to contribute about ten between them all. Get all that happening then you are in and around the automatic promotion area. Plus if you can get Hiwula playing, Dodoo chipping in with a few that could push you into the top spot.Are they surplus to requirements or can we get them playing?. I personally think both will leave. Dodoo doesn’t feel valued obviously and Hiwula it just hasn’t worked so far.