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Quote from: wilts rover on July 26, 2022, 09:51:50 pmAnd I keep banging on about this but we are an island - why dont we use more tidal energy?Tidal energy is a problem as they can’t sort the rust issues at the moment
And I keep banging on about this but we are an island - why dont we use more tidal energy?
I can add to that Bob.Fire service cut back by 10% in the last decade very noticeable during the recent heatwave.Economy growth stagnant for the last decade and more. Now it's plunging into a recession.2.1 million and rising, reliant on food banks.
I fundamentally disagree there Bob. As I've shown in previous threads, there hadn't been a single election in the past 50 years in which fewer than 50% of votes have gone to left of centre parties, or centrist parties leaning leftwards. In most elections, there's been something above 60% voting for that set of parties. But because FPTP massively discriminates against fragmented wing of politics, the Tories have been in power for the vast majority of that 50 years, when that has clearly not been the will of the electorate when measured by national vote.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on August 01, 2022, 06:06:05 pmI fundamentally disagree there Bob. As I've shown in previous threads, there hadn't been a single election in the past 50 years in which fewer than 50% of votes have gone to left of centre parties, or centrist parties leaning leftwards. In most elections, there's been something above 60% voting for that set of parties. But because FPTP massively discriminates against fragmented wing of politics, the Tories have been in power for the vast majority of that 50 years, when that has clearly not been the will of the electorate when measured by national vote.So after all that analysis BST does it not pose the question that's begging to be asked.Just wtf were Labour doing in the periods where they had overall control, does it not leave you and your ilk personally pis*ed off that The Labour party, knowing everything you have just explained, decided off their own backs to condemn the working man (and women) of this country to continual and persistent government by the Tory party, because they were too greedy and power hungry to share control in a coalition to fix the issue when they had full and unbridled opportunity to do so,What does that say about the morals of this party.It tells me they don,t give a hoot for working class people of this country and just require you to vote sheep like for them in the hope that they may break the cycle and govern once in a while. Shocking, if you didn't know better.
What does it it take to win an election in this country?? Think about it. The answer to your question SS is in the answer. BobG
I guess political perfection only comes with a party that cannot get elected in its own right.
Quote from: SydneyRover on August 02, 2022, 12:14:03 amI guess political perfection only comes with a party that cannot get elected in its own right.So the libdems? Or greens? Or bnp? Or any of the mutitude that stand for election?
BST,You may have missed it, but Keith told Andrew Marr that PR "was not a priority" when asked directly about reform of voting and constitutional arrangements.If it is not a priority for him, then what is?I would not hang your hat on that peg if I were you!
Quote from: Ldr on August 02, 2022, 07:34:49 amQuote from: SydneyRover on August 02, 2022, 12:14:03 amI guess political perfection only comes with a party that cannot get elected in its own right.So the libdems? Or greens? Or bnp? Or any of the mutitude that stand for election?I just find it a bit strange about the pundits making demands on a party most likely to oust the tories and yet we don't know what they demand of their own party. What demands do you put on party you vote for Ldr?
Quote from: SydneyRover on August 02, 2022, 08:29:16 amQuote from: Ldr on August 02, 2022, 07:34:49 amQuote from: SydneyRover on August 02, 2022, 12:14:03 amI guess political perfection only comes with a party that cannot get elected in its own right.So the libdems? Or greens? Or bnp? Or any of the mutitude that stand for election?I just find it a bit strange about the pundits making demands on a party most likely to oust the tories and yet we don't know what they demand of their own party. What demands do you put on party you vote for Ldr?I currently don’t have one Syd, I left the conservatives over the Cummings thing and then they left me when they continued veering out of decency.Honesty, fairness and definitely pragmatism I’d demand though Syd
I thought you already had, unless I've read your recent posts incorrectly.
Looking forward to you finding a post from me saying I thought austerity was honest and/or fair Syd
Quote from: Ldr on August 02, 2022, 12:16:14 pmLooking forward to you finding a post from me saying I thought austerity was honest and/or fair SydIt's OK, Ldr, he doesn't understand semantics.