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Southgate reminds me of Gary McSheffrey. A nice bloke, but scared to death to pick a team to win, rather than avoid losing, football matches. If England don’t make the semis at the very least I suspect he will be gone after this tournament.
Quote from: DRFC_AjA on November 26, 2022, 08:57:55 amCome on now this is the same manager who got us to the Euro final and WC Semi. No team plays every game perfectly.....rather slowly build up than go all out in the group....it's still a possibility let's be positive It's the same manager whose had ONE stand out result in tournament football against the Germans at last year's Euros and even that was on home soil .He blew the semi against Croatia and he blew the Euro Final with his timid and cautious tactics .He was totally out thought last night by his US counterpart and didn't have the tactical nous to change anything .Previous England managers would have given their right arm to have the attacking talent Southgate has at his disposal probably only matched by Brazil at this tournament .The man is a complete fraud .
Come on now this is the same manager who got us to the Euro final and WC Semi. No team plays every game perfectly.....rather slowly build up than go all out in the group....it's still a possibility let's be positive
Rashford has been poor on the ball tonight so has Henderson. Foden needs to play every game and played central. Press has been good.Wales dreadful
Quote from: Padge_DRFC on November 29, 2022, 08:27:26 pmRashford has been poor on the ball tonight so has Henderson. Foden needs to play every game and played central. Press has been good.Wales dreadfulFoden does not play centrally for his club and hasn’t done for a few seasons now.
Quote from: ncRover on November 29, 2022, 10:36:45 pmQuote from: Padge_DRFC on November 29, 2022, 08:27:26 pmRashford has been poor on the ball tonight so has Henderson. Foden needs to play every game and played central. Press has been good.Wales dreadfulFoden does not play centrally for his club and hasn’t done for a few seasons now.You must have missed all last season when they played without a striker then.
Probably not an easy or straightforward answer yet but when all the stats collated, will Wales be the worst team in the tournament? Guess they are the smallest so maybe not on stats vs size, but they’ve been very disappointing compared to their Euro tournament performances.
On the subject of Gareth Southgate.Not a comment on his football management skills but perhaps an indicator of 'brains in his boot'.A direct quote from his managerial notes in the Middlesbrough v Rovers program 22nd August 2009 I have in front of me."We also have a strong bench containing players who can consider themselves unfortunate not to be in the starting line-up. They will have a big role to play as the season goes on, however. After all we are only three games into a minimum 48-match season."
Quote from: Branton Red on November 30, 2022, 01:40:59 pmOn the subject of Gareth Southgate.Not a comment on his football management skills but perhaps an indicator of 'brains in his boot'.A direct quote from his managerial notes in the Middlesbrough v Rovers program 22nd August 2009 I have in front of me."We also have a strong bench containing players who can consider themselves unfortunate not to be in the starting line-up. They will have a big role to play as the season goes on, however. After all we are only three games into a minimum 48-match season."Nothing wrong with his maths. 46 league games, plus at least one League Cup game and at least one FA Cup game. So, correctly, a minimum of 48 games in the season.
On the subject of Gareth Southgate.Not a comment on his football management skills but perhaps an indicator of 'brains in his boot'.A direct quote from his managerial notes in the Middlesbrough v Rovers program 22nd August 2009 I have in front of me."We also have a strong bench containing players who can consider themselves unfortunate not to be in the starting line-up. They will have a big role to play as the season goes on, however. After all we are only three games into a minimum 48-match season."
Yes Glyn - winning nothing thats what we're used to and thats what we get with Southgate. His record speaks for itself. Glad you agree.
Well said Tyke. Never thought I would be agreeing with your Barnsley type philosophy on here but what you say about Southgate is absolutely bang on the button. He has been unbelievably lucky at how the tournaments and the draws have unwound and in the class and quality of players he has inherited. He is vastly overrated but fits snugly into the FA mindset. His safety first mentality and poor grasp of tactics have won us nothing and that isn't going to change. The sooner him and his boring personality are gone the better off we will be.
Quote from: arkseyrover on December 02, 2022, 07:08:27 pmWell said Tyke. Never thought I would be agreeing with your Barnsley type philosophy on here but what you say about Southgate is absolutely bang on the button. He has been unbelievably lucky at how the tournaments and the draws have unwound and in the class and quality of players he has inherited. He is vastly overrated but fits snugly into the FA mindset. His safety first mentality and poor grasp of tactics have won us nothing and that isn't going to change. The sooner him and his boring personality are gone the better off we will be.Van Gaal perfectly illustrating the difference between a canny tactical brain and hmm Gareth this afternoon .The US were totally baffled because the Netherlands let them have the ball and played on the counter .I'm not suggesting the Netherlands will win the world cup but simply demonstrating the difference between someone who knows his onions tactically and one who has his best strengths off the field .
Quote from: tyke1962 on December 03, 2022, 06:09:29 pmQuote from: arkseyrover on December 02, 2022, 07:08:27 pmWell said Tyke. Never thought I would be agreeing with your Barnsley type philosophy on here but what you say about Southgate is absolutely bang on the button. He has been unbelievably lucky at how the tournaments and the draws have unwound and in the class and quality of players he has inherited. He is vastly overrated but fits snugly into the FA mindset. His safety first mentality and poor grasp of tactics have won us nothing and that isn't going to change. The sooner him and his boring personality are gone the better off we will be.Van Gaal perfectly illustrating the difference between a canny tactical brain and hmm Gareth this afternoon .The US were totally baffled because the Netherlands let them have the ball and played on the counter .I'm not suggesting the Netherlands will win the world cup but simply demonstrating the difference between someone who knows his onions tactically and one who has his best strengths off the field .Totally agree with that, Tyke. Many pundits have described the USA midfield as the most technically gifted midfield so far in the competition, and I've really enjoyed watching them; but Van Gaal had a plan to nullify that threat, and executed it perfectly.