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Quote from: tyke1962 on December 10, 2022, 11:04:58 pmQuote from: dickos1 on December 10, 2022, 10:58:20 pmQuote from: tyke1962 on December 10, 2022, 10:55:59 pmQuote from: donnievic on December 10, 2022, 10:51:09 pmI thought we was the better team over 90 mins on the whole,kept their front 3 quiet most of the night and unlucky to lose,anyone can miss a penalty especially when under pressure just think he tried going with more power than placement,if gone with p lol ace ment and not in quiete in corner and loris saved it then fans no doubt would say he should of blasted itYeh we tend to miss an awful lot of penalties under pressure .No more than Anyone elseThe Croatians have won as many penalty shootouts at this world cup as we have in our entire history .How many have we been in, in comparison to them
Quote from: dickos1 on December 10, 2022, 10:58:20 pmQuote from: tyke1962 on December 10, 2022, 10:55:59 pmQuote from: donnievic on December 10, 2022, 10:51:09 pmI thought we was the better team over 90 mins on the whole,kept their front 3 quiet most of the night and unlucky to lose,anyone can miss a penalty especially when under pressure just think he tried going with more power than placement,if gone with p lol ace ment and not in quiete in corner and loris saved it then fans no doubt would say he should of blasted itYeh we tend to miss an awful lot of penalties under pressure .No more than Anyone elseThe Croatians have won as many penalty shootouts at this world cup as we have in our entire history .
Quote from: tyke1962 on December 10, 2022, 10:55:59 pmQuote from: donnievic on December 10, 2022, 10:51:09 pmI thought we was the better team over 90 mins on the whole,kept their front 3 quiet most of the night and unlucky to lose,anyone can miss a penalty especially when under pressure just think he tried going with more power than placement,if gone with p lol ace ment and not in quiete in corner and loris saved it then fans no doubt would say he should of blasted itYeh we tend to miss an awful lot of penalties under pressure .No more than Anyone else
Quote from: donnievic on December 10, 2022, 10:51:09 pmI thought we was the better team over 90 mins on the whole,kept their front 3 quiet most of the night and unlucky to lose,anyone can miss a penalty especially when under pressure just think he tried going with more power than placement,if gone with p lol ace ment and not in quiete in corner and loris saved it then fans no doubt would say he should of blasted itYeh we tend to miss an awful lot of penalties under pressure .
I thought we was the better team over 90 mins on the whole,kept their front 3 quiet most of the night and unlucky to lose,anyone can miss a penalty especially when under pressure just think he tried going with more power than placement,if gone with p lol ace ment and not in quiete in corner and loris saved it then fans no doubt would say he should of blasted it
Quote from: dickos1 on December 11, 2022, 11:04:58 amQuote from: tyke1962 on December 10, 2022, 11:04:58 pmQuote from: dickos1 on December 10, 2022, 10:58:20 pmQuote from: tyke1962 on December 10, 2022, 10:55:59 pmQuote from: donnievic on December 10, 2022, 10:51:09 pmI thought we was the better team over 90 mins on the whole,kept their front 3 quiet most of the night and unlucky to lose,anyone can miss a penalty especially when under pressure just think he tried going with more power than placement,if gone with p lol ace ment and not in quiete in corner and loris saved it then fans no doubt would say he should of blasted itYeh we tend to miss an awful lot of penalties under pressure .No more than Anyone elseThe Croatians have won as many penalty shootouts at this world cup as we have in our entire history .How many have we been in, in comparison to themCroatia have been involved in five penalty shootouts at major tournaments and won four of them , they lost their very first one at Euro 2008 .They've actually won their last four all at world cups , a record only equalled by the Germans .Percentage wise they have an 80% success rate .Our record is two wins from nine giving us a 22% success rate .You can play around with percentages I guess given we've been involved in more shootouts than Croatia but it's only four more and I think it's worth factoring in to this and acknowledging that Croatia didn't compete in their first tournament until 1996 to balance that out .
Quote from: tyke1962 on December 11, 2022, 10:03:37 amQuote from: dickos1 on December 11, 2022, 12:49:31 amQuote from: tyke1962 on December 10, 2022, 11:04:58 pmQuote from: dickos1 on December 10, 2022, 10:58:20 pmQuote from: tyke1962 on December 10, 2022, 10:55:59 pmQuote from: donnievic on December 10, 2022, 10:51:09 pmI thought we was the better team over 90 mins on the whole,kept their front 3 quiet most of the night and unlucky to lose,anyone can miss a penalty especially when under pressure just think he tried going with more power than placement,if gone with p lol ace ment and not in quiete in corner and loris saved it then fans no doubt would say he should of blasted itYeh we tend to miss an awful lot of penalties under pressure .No more than Anyone elseThe Croatians have won as many penalty shootouts at this world cup as we have in our entire history .So drawing against Japan and beating them on pens is better than beating Senegal 3-0 is it?We were talking about high pressure penalty kicks I believe .You said we miss just as many as anybody else , which is just plain wrong because everyone knows it's our nemesis , the facts are the facts .In tournament football it really doesn't matter how you progress to the next stage just as long as you do and Croatia are in there second consecutive semi final because they were also more mentally stronger than the pre tournament favourites when it mattered the most .This is something that consistently let's us down at tournaments and shows no sign of going away .Kane's penalty was high pressure last night , the same conditions were in play as a penalty shoot out and his head was so scrambled he put it 3 foot over the bar , the brutal truth is he bottled it .I'm not so critical as to expect the England team to win every penalty shoot out they are involved in , the Brazilians , French , Argentinean's and the Italians have all lost them but they've won plenty of them too , the Brazilians and Italians have won a World Cup and a Euros from the penalty spot .It's an unfortunate truth that in high pressure situations we crumble , mentally weak .The facts are the facts given our appalling record , if it was just down to luck we'd win 50% of them because that's the laws of probability .In one breath you’re saying it means nothing that England got to a World Cup semi and a euro final and then in the next your slinging praise at Croatia for reaching two World Cup semi’s That just sums up your mentality whatever England do isn’t good enough but when others do the same then they’ve done better than England
Quote from: dickos1 on December 11, 2022, 12:49:31 amQuote from: tyke1962 on December 10, 2022, 11:04:58 pmQuote from: dickos1 on December 10, 2022, 10:58:20 pmQuote from: tyke1962 on December 10, 2022, 10:55:59 pmQuote from: donnievic on December 10, 2022, 10:51:09 pmI thought we was the better team over 90 mins on the whole,kept their front 3 quiet most of the night and unlucky to lose,anyone can miss a penalty especially when under pressure just think he tried going with more power than placement,if gone with p lol ace ment and not in quiete in corner and loris saved it then fans no doubt would say he should of blasted itYeh we tend to miss an awful lot of penalties under pressure .No more than Anyone elseThe Croatians have won as many penalty shootouts at this world cup as we have in our entire history .So drawing against Japan and beating them on pens is better than beating Senegal 3-0 is it?We were talking about high pressure penalty kicks I believe .You said we miss just as many as anybody else , which is just plain wrong because everyone knows it's our nemesis , the facts are the facts .In tournament football it really doesn't matter how you progress to the next stage just as long as you do and Croatia are in there second consecutive semi final because they were also more mentally stronger than the pre tournament favourites when it mattered the most .This is something that consistently let's us down at tournaments and shows no sign of going away .Kane's penalty was high pressure last night , the same conditions were in play as a penalty shoot out and his head was so scrambled he put it 3 foot over the bar , the brutal truth is he bottled it .I'm not so critical as to expect the England team to win every penalty shoot out they are involved in , the Brazilians , French , Argentinean's and the Italians have all lost them but they've won plenty of them too , the Brazilians and Italians have won a World Cup and a Euros from the penalty spot .It's an unfortunate truth that in high pressure situations we crumble , mentally weak .The facts are the facts given our appalling record , if it was just down to luck we'd win 50% of them because that's the laws of probability .
Quote from: tyke1962 on December 10, 2022, 11:04:58 pmQuote from: dickos1 on December 10, 2022, 10:58:20 pmQuote from: tyke1962 on December 10, 2022, 10:55:59 pmQuote from: donnievic on December 10, 2022, 10:51:09 pmI thought we was the better team over 90 mins on the whole,kept their front 3 quiet most of the night and unlucky to lose,anyone can miss a penalty especially when under pressure just think he tried going with more power than placement,if gone with p lol ace ment and not in quiete in corner and loris saved it then fans no doubt would say he should of blasted itYeh we tend to miss an awful lot of penalties under pressure .No more than Anyone elseThe Croatians have won as many penalty shootouts at this world cup as we have in our entire history .So drawing against Japan and beating them on pens is better than beating Senegal 3-0 is it?
Quote from: tyke1962 on December 11, 2022, 11:53:59 amQuote from: dickos1 on December 11, 2022, 11:04:58 amQuote from: tyke1962 on December 10, 2022, 11:04:58 pmQuote from: dickos1 on December 10, 2022, 10:58:20 pmQuote from: tyke1962 on December 10, 2022, 10:55:59 pmQuote from: donnievic on December 10, 2022, 10:51:09 pmI thought we was the better team over 90 mins on the whole,kept their front 3 quiet most of the night and unlucky to lose,anyone can miss a penalty especially when under pressure just think he tried going with more power than placement,if gone with p lol ace ment and not in quiete in corner and loris saved it then fans no doubt would say he should of blasted itYeh we tend to miss an awful lot of penalties under pressure .No more than Anyone elseThe Croatians have won as many penalty shootouts at this world cup as we have in our entire history .How many have we been in, in comparison to themCroatia have been involved in five penalty shootouts at major tournaments and won four of them , they lost their very first one at Euro 2008 .They've actually won their last four all at world cups , a record only equalled by the Germans .Percentage wise they have an 80% success rate .Our record is two wins from nine giving us a 22% success rate .You can play around with percentages I guess given we've been involved in more shootouts than Croatia but it's only four more and I think it's worth factoring in to this and acknowledging that Croatia didn't compete in their first tournament until 1996 to balance that out .So Croatia are the best in the world, and because our record isn’t as good then we’re rubbish at them. I don’t think anyone will have scored more penalties than Kane in a major tournament
Quote from: dickos1 on December 11, 2022, 11:57:28 amQuote from: tyke1962 on December 11, 2022, 11:53:59 amQuote from: dickos1 on December 11, 2022, 11:04:58 amQuote from: tyke1962 on December 10, 2022, 11:04:58 pmQuote from: dickos1 on December 10, 2022, 10:58:20 pmQuote from: tyke1962 on December 10, 2022, 10:55:59 pmQuote from: donnievic on December 10, 2022, 10:51:09 pmI thought we was the better team over 90 mins on the whole,kept their front 3 quiet most of the night and unlucky to lose,anyone can miss a penalty especially when under pressure just think he tried going with more power than placement,if gone with p lol ace ment and not in quiete in corner and loris saved it then fans no doubt would say he should of blasted itYeh we tend to miss an awful lot of penalties under pressure .No more than Anyone elseThe Croatians have won as many penalty shootouts at this world cup as we have in our entire history .How many have we been in, in comparison to themCroatia have been involved in five penalty shootouts at major tournaments and won four of them , they lost their very first one at Euro 2008 .They've actually won their last four all at world cups , a record only equalled by the Germans .Percentage wise they have an 80% success rate .Our record is two wins from nine giving us a 22% success rate .You can play around with percentages I guess given we've been involved in more shootouts than Croatia but it's only four more and I think it's worth factoring in to this and acknowledging that Croatia didn't compete in their first tournament until 1996 to balance that out .So Croatia are the best in the world, and because our record isn’t as good then we’re rubbish at them. I don’t think anyone will have scored more penalties than Kane in a major tournamentNo we are rubbish at them against almost everybody .In my opinion Croatia are mentally stronger than we are and the facts back that up .Your not willing to acknowledge the brutal truth that as a nation our players are weak in the head which is a significant flaw in top level football .I'm somebody who admires mental strength , guts and balls if you want .It's not asking too much of our players to win 50% of our penalty shootouts or step up and deliver as Kane failed to do last night every now and again .Far from unreasonable .
5 matches. Only 1 of them we played a team on par.Only at the Euros did we beat someone on par with us. The worst Germany side for decades. Belgium twice, Croatia, Italy, now France. Wouldn't call him a failure, he's not done have us lose to someone rubbish. He's not got us beat anyone decent though.
Quote from: Padge_DRFC on December 11, 2022, 07:13:52 am5 matches. Only 1 of them we played a team on par.Only at the Euros did we beat someone on par with us. The worst Germany side for decades. Belgium twice, Croatia, Italy, now France. Wouldn't call him a failure, he's not done have us lose to someone rubbish. He's not got us beat anyone decent though. Neither has any other manager for 56 years.Why do you think the problem is the manager?You said categorically that we had the best front line in the tournament. But the difference between the teams last night was a superb performance by Griezmann. That wasn't due to managerial decisions. It's because Griezmann is a better player than any we currently have. Put him in that England side last night and we win comfortably. The challenge for Foden, Grealish, Bellingham and Sako is to sit down and watch Griezmann's performance last night and have that as the standard for them to expect of themselves when they are at the very height of their ability.Or we could just blame the manager, like we have done since before my balls dropped.
Quote from: tyke1962 on December 11, 2022, 12:13:43 pmQuote from: dickos1 on December 11, 2022, 11:57:28 amQuote from: tyke1962 on December 11, 2022, 11:53:59 amQuote from: dickos1 on December 11, 2022, 11:04:58 amQuote from: tyke1962 on December 10, 2022, 11:04:58 pmQuote from: dickos1 on December 10, 2022, 10:58:20 pmQuote from: tyke1962 on December 10, 2022, 10:55:59 pmQuote from: donnievic on December 10, 2022, 10:51:09 pmI thought we was the better team over 90 mins on the whole,kept their front 3 quiet most of the night and unlucky to lose,anyone can miss a penalty especially when under pressure just think he tried going with more power than placement,if gone with p lol ace ment and not in quiete in corner and loris saved it then fans no doubt would say he should of blasted itYeh we tend to miss an awful lot of penalties under pressure .No more than Anyone elseThe Croatians have won as many penalty shootouts at this world cup as we have in our entire history .How many have we been in, in comparison to themCroatia have been involved in five penalty shootouts at major tournaments and won four of them , they lost their very first one at Euro 2008 .They've actually won their last four all at world cups , a record only equalled by the Germans .Percentage wise they have an 80% success rate .Our record is two wins from nine giving us a 22% success rate .You can play around with percentages I guess given we've been involved in more shootouts than Croatia but it's only four more and I think it's worth factoring in to this and acknowledging that Croatia didn't compete in their first tournament until 1996 to balance that out .So Croatia are the best in the world, and because our record isn’t as good then we’re rubbish at them. I don’t think anyone will have scored more penalties than Kane in a major tournamentNo we are rubbish at them against almost everybody .In my opinion Croatia are mentally stronger than we are and the facts back that up .Your not willing to acknowledge the brutal truth that as a nation our players are weak in the head which is a significant flaw in top level football .I'm somebody who admires mental strength , guts and balls if you want .It's not asking too much of our players to win 50% of our penalty shootouts or step up and deliver as Kane failed to do last night every now and again .Far from unreasonable .But you’re using history to have a bash at this group of players. Under southgate we’ve had two penalty shootouts in major tournaments won one and lost one. Under this group of players we’ve had 6 penalties in major tournaments and scored 4 of them, if you include the denmark rebound. In the past I agree we’ve struggled in the big moments but under southgate that hasn’t been the case
tyke1962, that is more like the truth, a referee who misses three big calls all game changing, the foul on Saka, the first call for a penalty on Kane, and he didn't give the one on Mount, causing an unnecessary delay and French antics tells me. 1) he is totally inept, or, 2) he is cheating. I can't believe we get the hand of god, the disallowed goal v Germany and yesterdays performance by being inept when they get to that level, and so regular in competitions run by FIFA, who have history with the FA. so think they are a big part in collusion, I think they cheat and are told to favour certain teams, One big question, who thinks Messi and Neymar would have been awarded a penalty for the Kane and Bellingham fouls in the box? nobody even looking at the second one and the first a nailed on one.
Christ are we REALLY still having that England against The Rest of the World mentality?What about the greatest ever error by officials in a World Cup final?
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on December 11, 2022, 02:20:26 pmChrist are we REALLY still having that England against The Rest of the World mentality?What about the greatest ever error by officials in a World Cup final?It may well have been an error Billy I guess we will never know .Hardly comparable to the Hand Of God and Lampards goal two foot over the line now is it .
We all know the shenanigans regarding hosting a World Cup but none the less the fact that this country has only ever had it awarded once is more than suspicious .Taking it around the world argument doesn't wash either , this will be the second time the US have had it , the last in only 1994 , Mexico have had it three times since 1970 .Brazil twice , Germany twice , Italy and France twice .More than suspicious .
Quote from: dickos1 on December 11, 2022, 12:36:05 pmQuote from: tyke1962 on December 11, 2022, 12:13:43 pmQuote from: dickos1 on December 11, 2022, 11:57:28 amQuote from: tyke1962 on December 11, 2022, 11:53:59 amQuote from: dickos1 on December 11, 2022, 11:04:58 amQuote from: tyke1962 on December 10, 2022, 11:04:58 pmQuote from: dickos1 on December 10, 2022, 10:58:20 pmQuote from: tyke1962 on December 10, 2022, 10:55:59 pmQuote from: donnievic on December 10, 2022, 10:51:09 pmI thought we was the better team over 90 mins on the whole,kept their front 3 quiet most of the night and unlucky to lose,anyone can miss a penalty especially when under pressure just think he tried going with more power than placement,if gone with p lol ace ment and not in quiete in corner and loris saved it then fans no doubt would say he should of blasted itYeh we tend to miss an awful lot of penalties under pressure .No more than Anyone elseThe Croatians have won as many penalty shootouts at this world cup as we have in our entire history .How many have we been in, in comparison to themCroatia have been involved in five penalty shootouts at major tournaments and won four of them , they lost their very first one at Euro 2008 .They've actually won their last four all at world cups , a record only equalled by the Germans .Percentage wise they have an 80% success rate .Our record is two wins from nine giving us a 22% success rate .You can play around with percentages I guess given we've been involved in more shootouts than Croatia but it's only four more and I think it's worth factoring in to this and acknowledging that Croatia didn't compete in their first tournament until 1996 to balance that out .So Croatia are the best in the world, and because our record isn’t as good then we’re rubbish at them. I don’t think anyone will have scored more penalties than Kane in a major tournamentNo we are rubbish at them against almost everybody .In my opinion Croatia are mentally stronger than we are and the facts back that up .Your not willing to acknowledge the brutal truth that as a nation our players are weak in the head which is a significant flaw in top level football .I'm somebody who admires mental strength , guts and balls if you want .It's not asking too much of our players to win 50% of our penalty shootouts or step up and deliver as Kane failed to do last night every now and again .Far from unreasonable .But you’re using history to have a bash at this group of players. Under southgate we’ve had two penalty shootouts in major tournaments won one and lost one. Under this group of players we’ve had 6 penalties in major tournaments and scored 4 of them, if you include the denmark rebound. In the past I agree we’ve struggled in the big moments but under southgate that hasn’t been the caseThe players capitulated under Southgate at last year's Euro Final penalty shootout just as they have done previously .We missed three in that shoot out .Kane missed last night to level the game up under massive pressure .Nowts changed so history is defiantly in play and to ignore our mental weakness is to not want to acknowledge the obvious fault in our makeup .History wouldn't be in play if we had a 50% success rate and every now and again someone steps up in the big moments instead of blazing the ball three foot over the cross bar .Chris Waddle esque .I wish I knew why we are so weak in the head I really do .More importantly I wish we could solve it .If I've an opinion on it at all is that it's down to the players themselves to think clearly under pressure , I'm not convinced by practising penalties or even a sports psychologist to be honest .What I do know is that normally you have to get through at least one maybe two penalty shootouts to win a major tournament these days .The next world cup will have an extra knock out round so the odds are going to be even more stacked against us .What's amazing is that both the Rugby Union team and cricket team delivered in high pressure moments to win respective world cups .Why can't our footballers ?
Quote from: tyke1962 on December 11, 2022, 01:43:19 pmQuote from: dickos1 on December 11, 2022, 12:36:05 pmQuote from: tyke1962 on December 11, 2022, 12:13:43 pmQuote from: dickos1 on December 11, 2022, 11:57:28 amQuote from: tyke1962 on December 11, 2022, 11:53:59 amQuote from: dickos1 on December 11, 2022, 11:04:58 amQuote from: tyke1962 on December 10, 2022, 11:04:58 pmQuote from: dickos1 on December 10, 2022, 10:58:20 pmQuote from: tyke1962 on December 10, 2022, 10:55:59 pmQuote from: donnievic on December 10, 2022, 10:51:09 pmI thought we was the better team over 90 mins on the whole,kept their front 3 quiet most of the night and unlucky to lose,anyone can miss a penalty especially when under pressure just think he tried going with more power than placement,if gone with p lol ace ment and not in quiete in corner and loris saved it then fans no doubt would say he should of blasted itYeh we tend to miss an awful lot of penalties under pressure .No more than Anyone elseThe Croatians have won as many penalty shootouts at this world cup as we have in our entire history .How many have we been in, in comparison to themCroatia have been involved in five penalty shootouts at major tournaments and won four of them , they lost their very first one at Euro 2008 .They've actually won their last four all at world cups , a record only equalled by the Germans .Percentage wise they have an 80% success rate .Our record is two wins from nine giving us a 22% success rate .You can play around with percentages I guess given we've been involved in more shootouts than Croatia but it's only four more and I think it's worth factoring in to this and acknowledging that Croatia didn't compete in their first tournament until 1996 to balance that out .So Croatia are the best in the world, and because our record isn’t as good then we’re rubbish at them. I don’t think anyone will have scored more penalties than Kane in a major tournamentNo we are rubbish at them against almost everybody .In my opinion Croatia are mentally stronger than we are and the facts back that up .Your not willing to acknowledge the brutal truth that as a nation our players are weak in the head which is a significant flaw in top level football .I'm somebody who admires mental strength , guts and balls if you want .It's not asking too much of our players to win 50% of our penalty shootouts or step up and deliver as Kane failed to do last night every now and again .Far from unreasonable .But you’re using history to have a bash at this group of players. Under southgate we’ve had two penalty shootouts in major tournaments won one and lost one. Under this group of players we’ve had 6 penalties in major tournaments and scored 4 of them, if you include the denmark rebound. In the past I agree we’ve struggled in the big moments but under southgate that hasn’t been the caseThe players capitulated under Southgate at last year's Euro Final penalty shootout just as they have done previously .We missed three in that shoot out .Kane missed last night to level the game up under massive pressure .Nowts changed so history is defiantly in play and to ignore our mental weakness is to not want to acknowledge the obvious fault in our makeup .History wouldn't be in play if we had a 50% success rate and every now and again someone steps up in the big moments instead of blazing the ball three foot over the cross bar .Chris Waddle esque .I wish I knew why we are so weak in the head I really do .More importantly I wish we could solve it .If I've an opinion on it at all is that it's down to the players themselves to think clearly under pressure , I'm not convinced by practising penalties or even a sports psychologist to be honest .What I do know is that normally you have to get through at least one maybe two penalty shootouts to win a major tournament these days .The next world cup will have an extra knock out round so the odds are going to be even more stacked against us .What's amazing is that both the Rugby Union team and cricket team delivered in high pressure moments to win respective world cups .Why can't our footballers ?They lost a penalty shootout in the final of a major competition, only the second one we’ve ever reached in our history. And your only conclusion of that scenario is that the team capitulated, the manager failed. It really is a very strange take on what happened.
Quote from: scawsby steve on December 10, 2022, 09:18:59 pmQuote from: drfchound on December 10, 2022, 09:14:01 pmSome of the worlds best have missed pens, the pressure in those situations is something that the average bloke can’t imagine.Totally agree, mate. The defeat wasn't down to him. They were better than us, that's all.Anyway, the Rovers won, so it's been a good day as far as I'm concerned.Anyone watching that game, and coming out of it thinking France were the better side need help. England were by far the better side and got robbed by a few terrible decisions and a terrible missed pen.
Quote from: drfchound on December 10, 2022, 09:14:01 pmSome of the worlds best have missed pens, the pressure in those situations is something that the average bloke can’t imagine.Totally agree, mate. The defeat wasn't down to him. They were better than us, that's all.Anyway, the Rovers won, so it's been a good day as far as I'm concerned.
Some of the worlds best have missed pens, the pressure in those situations is something that the average bloke can’t imagine.
Quote from: selby on December 11, 2022, 02:08:16 pmtyke1962, that is more like the truth, a referee who misses three big calls all game changing, the foul on Saka, the first call for a penalty on Kane, and he didn't give the one on Mount, causing an unnecessary delay and French antics tells me. 1) he is totally inept, or, 2) he is cheating. I can't believe we get the hand of god, the disallowed goal v Germany and yesterdays performance by being inept when they get to that level, and so regular in competitions run by FIFA, who have history with the FA. so think they are a big part in collusion, I think they cheat and are told to favour certain teams, One big question, who thinks Messi and Neymar would have been awarded a penalty for the Kane and Bellingham fouls in the box? nobody even looking at the second one and the first a nailed on one.You could also add the two Sol Campbell disallowed goals in extra time against Argentina in 98 and Portugal in 2004 for good measure .We all know the shenanigans regarding hosting a World Cup but none the less the fact that this country has only ever had it awarded once is more than suspicious .Taking it around the world argument doesn't wash either , this will be the second time the US have had it , the last in only 1994 , Mexico have had it three times since 1970 .Brazil twice , Germany twice , Italy and France twice .More than suspicious .
Quote from: tyke1962 on December 11, 2022, 02:24:22 pmQuote from: selby on December 11, 2022, 02:08:16 pmtyke1962, that is more like the truth, a referee who misses three big calls all game changing, the foul on Saka, the first call for a penalty on Kane, and he didn't give the one on Mount, causing an unnecessary delay and French antics tells me. 1) he is totally inept, or, 2) he is cheating. I can't believe we get the hand of god, the disallowed goal v Germany and yesterdays performance by being inept when they get to that level, and so regular in competitions run by FIFA, who have history with the FA. so think they are a big part in collusion, I think they cheat and are told to favour certain teams, One big question, who thinks Messi and Neymar would have been awarded a penalty for the Kane and Bellingham fouls in the box? nobody even looking at the second one and the first a nailed on one.You could also add the two Sol Campbell disallowed goals in extra time against Argentina in 98 and Portugal in 2004 for good measure .We all know the shenanigans regarding hosting a World Cup but none the less the fact that this country has only ever had it awarded once is more than suspicious .Taking it around the world argument doesn't wash either , this will be the second time the US have had it , the last in only 1994 , Mexico have had it three times since 1970 .Brazil twice , Germany twice , Italy and France twice .More than suspicious .What years has Mexico hosted it? I know my memory might be going but I can only remember them hosting it twice. I seem to have lost one.