Support the RMT

[phil old leake]

What a fool

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMFKSvTJN/

[normal rules]

I genuinely feel sorry for the good hard working men and women of the RMT if they are represented by this idiot.

[Ldr]

84/85 all over again, brave men led by a muppet with his own agenda, not their interests to the fore

[ncRover]

“Come up with something original”. Whilst he repeats mindlessly the same things that other socialists do in his Palestine t-shirt.

[roverstillidie91]

We need a general election A.S.A.P

[danumdon]

When i worked at Leeman Rd in BR days one of the local RMT convenors told me that they used to have some sort of formulae that they used to work out if any number of strike days would send the formula over the top as in not being able to earn enough money with the required pay rise baked in to make having more strike days off worth while.

I would imagine its getting very close or possibly passed the point where the days of pay that the RMT staff have lost cannot be recouped with the required pay rise.

Ive spoken to many RMT members about this and whilst they all realise this is happening, the majority want to see it through, for some sort of union win.

Are they deluding themselves or are they holding their nerve in the face of intransigent employers and government?

[i_ateallthepies]

There will always be a point in the future at which the losses are recouped, and salary gains in any year will always be baked in to the starting point for future negotiations.

[Superspy]

Well he's a delight.

[danumdon]

There's probably a reason he's a "former" union official, can't for the life of me think what it may be.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Richard Tice and Isabel Oakeshott seem to be having trouble igniting the Culture War flames. But I'm sure they'll keep going, because the Far Right has f**k all else to offer.

[danumdon]

Think they only just about came second in that charade, awful slice of TV nonsense.

[wilts rover]

Good job Mr Lynch has the Tory MP's to keep him right.

Down with the unions. Vote Tory.

https://twitter.com/PoliticsJOE_UK/status/1613216504300064768

[SydneyRover]

Rail passenger transport should be run as a service to the community and not as a profit making venture with fares designed so it make it a no-brainer for ppl to use it rather than cars.

Driverless train systems work ok in a highly controlled environment eg airports etc where 99.9% of passengers have one aim in mind to get where they are going with zero non-passengers around. Having rail personnel on trains and at stations makes travel safer especially for women. When women can travel safely, alone at any time then that is the time to consider staff reductions.

My view has always been that a desperate government wants a culture war, ML knows that and so do most of the gov't and it's supporters.

[Ldr]

Last paragraph Syd, nail on the head

[scawsby steve]

Yes, it's one of those rare occasions where I totally agree with Sydney.

[SydneyRover]

And support is coming from those you forsook Steve ............

''‘Civilised European nations’ sack striking workers, do they, Grant Shapps? What nonsense''

Polly Toynbee

''A sharp riposte came from the European Trade Union Confederation: no, this anti-strike law puts the UK right outside the mainstream, its general secretary, Esther Lynch, has said today.

The UK already has among the most draconian restrictions on the right to strike in Europe. The UK government’s plans would push it even further away from normal, democratic practice across Europe.” No country – none – has a law that allows a striking worker to be sacked''

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jan/12/european-nations-sack-striking-workers-grant-shapps-tory-culture-war

[scawsby steve]

And support is coming from those you forsook Steve ............

''‘Civilised European nations’ sack striking workers, do they, Grant Shapps? What nonsense''

Polly Toynbee

''A sharp riposte came from the European Trade Union Confederation: no, this anti-strike law puts the UK right outside the mainstream, its general secretary, Esther Lynch, has said today.

The UK already has among the most draconian restrictions on the right to strike in Europe. The UK government’s plans would push it even further away from normal, democratic practice across Europe.” No country – none – has a law that allows a striking worker to be sacked''

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jan/12/european-nations-sack-striking-workers-grant-shapps-tory-culture-war

Who have I forsook, and what support are you on about?

[SydneyRover]

brexit I'm afraid old chap

[SydneyRover]

Hope it's not stretching your grey matter to think about how the rest of Europe could feel about brexiteers voting to leave the humanitarian refugee problem to someone else Steve, but instead of giving Britons the finger and saying deal with it they offer support.

[scawsby steve]

Hope it's not stretching your grey matter to think about how the rest of Europe could feel about brexiteers voting to leave the humanitarian refugee problem to someone else Steve, but instead of giving Britons the finger and saying deal with it they offer support.

What in the blue f*ck has Brexit to do with the RMT?

Your psychotic obsession with Brexit has seriously affected your cognitive ability to talk about anything else.

[SydneyRover]

Maybe if you stopped ranting and read what I wrote, if it doesn't make sense to you it's cos you didn't read what I quoted, maybe you can't be helped.

[drfchound]

 

[scawsby steve]

Maybe if you stopped ranting and read what I wrote, if it doesn't make sense to you it's cos you didn't read what I quoted, maybe you can't be helped.

I did read it. I don't see how that can be regarded as support. Are they going to send pickets over here to support the strikes?

[SydneyRover]

So now you admit that you do see a link but disagree which is entirely different aye Steve?

hmmm so if you're not on the picket line you're not a supporter, where does that put you Steve?

[danumdon]

Hope it's not stretching your grey matter to think about how the rest of Europe could feel about brexiteers voting to leave the humanitarian refugee problem to someone else Steve, but instead of giving Britons the finger and saying deal with it they offer support.

What in the blue f*ck has Brexit to do with the RMT?

Your psychotic obsession with Brexit has seriously affected your cognitive ability to talk about anything else.

I checked the weather in Sydney today, its only been between 20-25 so it can't have been sunstroke.

Is it possible we've found "patient zero with Brexit dementia"

[SydneyRover]

Only you would come in at the end to find you're wrong yet again dd

[roverstillidie91]

Rail passenger transport should be run as a service to the community and not as a profit making venture with fares designed so it make it a no-brainer for ppl to use it rather than cars.

Driverless train systems work ok in a highly controlled environment eg airports etc where 99.9% of passengers have one aim in mind to get where they are going with zero non-passengers around. Having rail personnel on trains and at stations makes travel safer especially for women. When women can travel safely, alone at any time then that is the time to consider staff reductions.

My view has always been that a desperate government wants a culture war, ML knows that and so do most of the gov't and it's supporters.

Well pointed out and also not only passengers but also a mention for freight which it isn't highlighted very much about the transportation of goods keeping vehicles off the roads i.e. medicines etc can make their way to the NHS and amongst other items as well

#defend the right to strike https://wesayenough.co.uk/petition/

[roverstillidie91]

When i worked at Leeman Rd in BR days one of the local RMT convenors told me that they used to have some sort of formulae that they used to work out if any number of strike days would send the formula over the top as in not being able to earn enough money with the required pay rise baked in to make having more strike days off worth while.

I would imagine its getting very close or possibly passed the point where the days of pay that the RMT staff have lost cannot be recouped with the required pay rise.

Ive spoken to many RMT members about this and whilst they all realise this is happening, the majority want to see it through, for some sort of union win.

Are they deluding themselves or are they holding their nerve in the face of intransigent employers and government?

I am a member of RMT and as I work on the railway people from the outside might not realise that the railway relies on overtime to keep it covered as they don't run it with enough staff so rely on overtime to keep it covered.

It was suggested by Grant Shapps that they would ban overtime of the railway.

All I would say is if they do 'Good luck with that' because if staff decided to just work their booked shifts then the railway would grind to a halt.

And GS quoted on an article that he could not understand why working on rest days was 'Voluntary' https://martinwicks.org/2022/08/04/rest-days-are-for-rest-mr-shapps/

[i_ateallthepies]

I am a member of RMT and as I work on the railway people from the outside might not realise that the railway relies on overtime to keep it covered as they don't run it with enough staff so rely on overtime to keep it covered.

It was suggested by Grant Shapps that they would ban overtime of the railway.

All I would say is if they do 'Good luck with that' because if staff decided to just work their booked shifts then the railway would grind to a halt.

And GS quoted on an article that he could not understand why working on rest days was 'Voluntary' https://martinwicks.org/2022/08/04/rest-days-are-for-rest-mr-shapps/

Perhaps this is the way forward for this dispute, rtid91 - Just implement an overtime ban.  Everybody continues working their allocated shifts and watch the railway grind to a halt.

[roverstillidie91]

I am a member of RMT and as I work on the railway people from the outside might not realise that the railway relies on overtime to keep it covered as they don't run it with enough staff so rely on overtime to keep it covered.

It was suggested by Grant Shapps that they would ban overtime of the railway.

All I would say is if they do 'Good luck with that' because if staff decided to just work their booked shifts then the railway would grind to a halt.

And GS quoted on an article that he could not understand why working on rest days was 'Voluntary' https://martinwicks.org/2022/08/04/rest-days-are-for-rest-mr-shapps/

Perhaps this is the way forward for this dispute, rtid91 - Just implement an overtime ban.  Everybody continues working their allocated shifts and watch the railway grind to a halt.

Exactly, people in the public who don't work in the respective industries I don't have this attitude where I say oh well how would you know, you don't work in the industry. If people went to the picket lines and asked people exactly what is happening they would better understand.

I would say nearly all the public services are understaffed and pay and conditions, the latter which doesn't get mentioned is how you not only recruit but retain staff.

If there is something better out there for someone with better pay and conditions more than likely people will opt for that, and who can blame them.