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A good, well run club; especially when you consider the size of the town.A good chairman makes all the difference.
Quote from: scawsby steve on May 01, 2023, 06:44:31 pmA good, well run club; especially when you consider the size of the town.A good chairman makes all the difference.Cheers Steve. Genuinely appreciate the praise. But, I do feel the need to comment on the "size of the town" remark. Rotherham is a large town. Very large. Almost identical to that of Doncaster, notwithstanding recent "city status". Both our 'towns' dwarf Barnsley for example by way of population. Our problem, with respects football, has never been the size of our town, moreover our proximity to Sheffield. In any other geographical setting we're a city. Moving on ..... did someone on here say in the summer that our two teams would end up in the same division at the end of the season? And this was based on nothing more than a 70 minute friendly on the hottest day on record?
Quote from: Grumps on May 01, 2023, 10:44:48 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on May 01, 2023, 06:44:31 pmA good, well run club; especially when you consider the size of the town.A good chairman makes all the difference.Cheers Steve. Genuinely appreciate the praise. But, I do feel the need to comment on the "size of the town" remark. Rotherham is a large town. Very large. Almost identical to that of Doncaster, notwithstanding recent "city status". Both our 'towns' dwarf Barnsley for example by way of population. Our problem, with respects football, has never been the size of our town, moreover our proximity to Sheffield. In any other geographical setting we're a city. Moving on ..... did someone on here say in the summer that our two teams would end up in the same division at the end of the season? And this was based on nothing more than a 70 minute friendly on the hottest day on record? Re your last point, I remember someone saying that you might end up with the lowest points total in the Championship. Remember thinking it was an odd thing to say after one pre-season game.
Quote from: scawsby steve on May 01, 2023, 06:44:31 pmA good, well run club; especially when you consider the size of the town.A good chairman makes all the difference.Cheers Steve. Genuinely appreciate the praise. But, I do feel the need to comment on the "size of the town" remark. Rotherham is a large town. Very large. Almost identical to that of Doncaster, notwithstanding recent "city status". Both our 'towns' dwarf Barnsley for example by way of population. Our problem, with respects football, has never been the size of our town, moreover our proximity to Sheffield. In any other geographical setting we're a city. Moving on ..... did someone on here say in the summer that our two teams would end up in the same division at the end of the season? And this was based on nothing more than a 70 minute friendly on the hottest day on record?
Quote from: Grumps on May 01, 2023, 10:44:48 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on May 01, 2023, 06:44:31 pmA good, well run club; especially when you consider the size of the town.A good chairman makes all the difference.Cheers Steve. Genuinely appreciate the praise. But, I do feel the need to comment on the "size of the town" remark. Rotherham is a large town. Very large. Almost identical to that of Doncaster, notwithstanding recent "city status". Both our 'towns' dwarf Barnsley for example by way of population. Our problem, with respects football, has never been the size of our town, moreover our proximity to Sheffield. In any other geographical setting we're a city. Moving on ..... did someone on here say in the summer that our two teams would end up in the same division at the end of the season? And this was based on nothing more than a 70 minute friendly on the hottest day on record? Sorry but historically and culturally Rotherham is insignificant compared to Doncaster. Population is a factor, for city status but only 1 factor. Put rotherham in Devon say, and it's still a town. Put Doncaster in Devon, and it's a city for 250 years. Oh and the city of Doncaster has a population of 308,000
Quote from: scawsby steve on May 01, 2023, 06:44:31 pmA good, well run club; especially when you consider the size of the town.A good chairman makes all the difference.Cheers Steve. Genuinely appreciate the praise. But, I do feel the need to comment on the "size of the town" remark. Rotherham is a large town. Very large. Almost identical to that of Doncaster, notwithstanding recent "city status". Both our 'towns' dwarf Barnsley for example by way of population. Our problem, with respects football, has never been the size of our town, moreover our proximity to Sheffield. In any other geographical setting we're a city. Moving on ..... did someone on here say in the summer that our two teams would end up in the same division at the end of the season? And this was based on nothing more than a 70 minute friendly on the hottest day on record?
When people say ambitious owners, they basically mean owners willing to throw millions into the pot with no end horizon. Each club has a revenue-generating potential. None of the clubs cited above is going to get 20,000 plus crowds in the Championship, which is pretty much what it would take to survive, all things being equal. To bridge the gap between normal run-rate revenue and what it takes to compete, the options are either an ongoing owner subsidy of several millions each season, some unbelievably consistently successful recruitment and realisation policy, or hosting the world’s biggest car boot sale and pop concert venue. Throwing millions into the pot to cover the gap between reality and fantasy is not sustainable. Adding a bit in now and again to try and generate long-term increase to the revenue stream is sensible. We did this with the new stadium, but as JR noted last week, we didn’t fill the Keepmoat even when we were flying in the Championship. There is a cap on our ongoing revenue due largely to the inability to attract significant numbers of supporters on a consistent basis, in the way that clubs like Sunderland, Derby and Boro do, despite having arguably smaller or similar catchments.
Well I started it by saying Rotherham is not a small TownIt isn’t.
Quote from: Chris Black come back on May 02, 2023, 09:44:33 amWhen people say ambitious owners, they basically mean owners willing to throw millions into the pot with no end horizon. Each club has a revenue-generating potential. None of the clubs cited above is going to get 20,000 plus crowds in the Championship, which is pretty much what it would take to survive, all things being equal. To bridge the gap between normal run-rate revenue and what it takes to compete, the options are either an ongoing owner subsidy of several millions each season, some unbelievably consistently successful recruitment and realisation policy, or hosting the world’s biggest car boot sale and pop concert venue. Throwing millions into the pot to cover the gap between reality and fantasy is not sustainable. Adding a bit in now and again to try and generate long-term increase to the revenue stream is sensible. We did this with the new stadium, but as JR noted last week, we didn’t fill the Keepmoat even when we were flying in the Championship. There is a cap on our ongoing revenue due largely to the inability to attract significant numbers of supporters on a consistent basis, in the way that clubs like Sunderland, Derby and Boro do, despite having arguably smaller or similar catchments.Preston, Millwall, Luton, Wigan, Blackpool, Huddersfield, QPR, Reading, Hull, Blackburn, Swansea, Who have I missed, don’t get 20,000 gates Very rare.Some don’t Ave 15.000 You can survive on gates of 10.000Look at Luton Town
Quote from: Chris Black come back on May 02, 2023, 09:44:33 amWhen people say ambitious owners, they basically mean owners willing to throw millions into the pot with no end horizon. Each club has a revenue-generating potential. None of the clubs cited above is going to get 20,000 plus crowds in the Championship, which is pretty much what it would take to survive, all things being equal. To bridge the gap between normal run-rate revenue and what it takes to compete, the options are either an ongoing owner subsidy of several millions each season, some unbelievably consistently successful recruitment and realisation policy, or hosting the world’s biggest car boot sale and pop concert venue. Throwing millions into the pot to cover the gap between reality and fantasy is not sustainable. Adding a bit in now and again to try and generate long-term increase to the revenue stream is sensible. We did this with the new stadium, but as JR noted last week, we didn’t fill the Keepmoat even when we were flying in the Championship. There is a cap on our ongoing revenue due largely to the inability to attract significant numbers of supporters on a consistent basis, in the way that clubs like Sunderland, Derby and Boro do, despite having arguably smaller or similar catchments. Rotherham has 11-12k there yesterday for a huge game against Boro who would have brought a good away following also. If Tony Stewart can support Rotherham's good ambitions then we should be able to, the current regime or new investors in theory. People on here are so negative, despite the logic of our infrastructure, population of South Yorkshire's second city etc. Maybe a very good reason why we have apathy in the board room is the apathy from a number of the fans who accept being the regions poor relations. If Rotherham and one man band Stewart can show ambition then Rovers should be able to aswell.
Aren't Burnley under a transfer embargo?