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Quote from: Fal on October 28, 2023, 09:08:21 pmDevante Cole also doing well at BarnsleyOnly if a penalty's involved and he wants to go against the preferred penalty taker ok he got it in the back of the net on the rebound luckily
Devante Cole also doing well at Barnsley
Quote from: Chris Black come back on October 28, 2023, 10:16:08 pmGills have given him a lifetime ban. Good on Gillingham. No place for scum like that at any football club.
Gills have given him a lifetime ban.
Barnsley fan spitting feathers on dee day saying Cole is after a move in Jan and wants to score as many as he can before then
A brace already for May tonight after half an hour.
Quote from: Prez on October 31, 2023, 08:24:00 pmA brace already for May tonight after half an hour.9 in 13 league games before tonight. Good on him.
That record would have been par for the course for most strikers given the virtual guarantee of never being dropped or subbed that Marquis enjoyed.
There's nothing warped about the fact that he was virtually guaranteed immunity from being dropped or subbed and that it is a massive advantage to be in that position.On the other hand, it is a massive disadvantage to know that you're highly likely to be subbed in the games in which you have been sporadically selected.There are far more than a handful of strikers in Rovers history that have scored goals at a more consistent rate than Marquis, Billy Sharp being the latest.When May left us for Cheltenham, he was given a proper chance, unlike his time at Rovers, and although he wasn't given the same immunity from being dropped/subbed as Marquis was at Rovers, he scored the same amount of goals (67) for them as Marquis did for us.
Anyone who claims that they saw from the limited opportunities that May was given, a player who would turn into what he has, is clearly deceiving themselves.
Pib, why have you changed the goalposts regarding former players who have a better scoring rate than Marquis? You originally said in Rovers history, now you say in the last 20 years!
Quote from: Bentley Bullet on November 01, 2023, 12:48:16 pmPib, why have you changed the goalposts regarding former players who have a better scoring rate than Marquis? You originally said in Rovers history, now you say in the last 20 years!I haven't BB. You're welcome to name any you like. You named Billy Sharp. I threw Paul Barnes into the mix, that covers the last 20-21 years. Feel free to offer up the many others who have scored as consistently for us in our history. If there are as many as you say, then I'm sure you can change my mind to your reasoning that it is "par for the course" for strikers who start consistently to score at a rate of around 1 in 2 over multiple seasons for us.All the while continue to ignore the other points I have made and questions I have asked.
Quote from: pib on November 01, 2023, 12:56:31 pmQuote from: Bentley Bullet on November 01, 2023, 12:48:16 pmPib, why have you changed the goalposts regarding former players who have a better scoring rate than Marquis? You originally said in Rovers history, now you say in the last 20 years!I haven't BB. You're welcome to name any you like. You named Billy Sharp. I threw Paul Barnes into the mix, that covers the last 20-21 years. Feel free to offer up the many others who have scored as consistently for us in our history. If there are as many as you say, then I'm sure you can change my mind to your reasoning that it is "par for the course" for strikers who start consistently to score at a rate of around 1 in 2 over multiple seasons for us.All the while continue to ignore the other points I have made and questions I have asked.Tom KeetleyColin BoothAlick JeffreyPeter DohertyClarrie JordanLaurie SheffieldTony LeightonReg BainesPaul BarnesBilly SharpWhat other points have you asked? I must have missed them.
Quote from: Chris Black come back on November 01, 2023, 12:43:38 pmAnyone who claims that they saw from the limited opportunities that May was given, a player who would turn into what he has, is clearly deceiving themselves. I, along with others on this forum claimed that May had a special talent that wasn't exploited enough when he was with us. The fact that we were right proves we weren't the ones who were deceived.
I may be wrong here, but didn’t we go something like 30 years without a striker getting 20+ league goals in a season, from Peter Kitchen in the mid seventies to Barnes or Blundell in 2004/5 ish?
Quote from: Bentley Bullet on November 01, 2023, 01:03:41 pmQuote from: pib on November 01, 2023, 12:56:31 pmQuote from: Bentley Bullet on November 01, 2023, 12:48:16 pmPib, why have you changed the goalposts regarding former players who have a better scoring rate than Marquis? You originally said in Rovers history, now you say in the last 20 years!I haven't BB. You're welcome to name any you like. You named Billy Sharp. I threw Paul Barnes into the mix, that covers the last 20-21 years. Feel free to offer up the many others who have scored as consistently for us in our history. If there are as many as you say, then I'm sure you can change my mind to your reasoning that it is "par for the course" for strikers who start consistently to score at a rate of around 1 in 2 over multiple seasons for us.All the while continue to ignore the other points I have made and questions I have asked.Tom KeetleyColin BoothAlick JeffreyPeter DohertyClarrie JordanLaurie SheffieldTony LeightonReg BainesPaul BarnesBilly SharpWhat other points have you asked? I must have missed them.I'll copy them below for you BB.Why would any manager drop a player producing the numbers and performances that he (JM) did, regardless of whether that would've worked in favour of May, Williams, Mandeville or anyone else?Since JM left the club in 2019, why have none of our strikers since scored 20+ goals a season, if it's so par-for-the-course?Is it that difficult to hold multiple ideas concurrently, that maybe both of them are good players, and that perhaps one of them was just unlucky to join the club at a time where we already had a main striker in fantastic form? Does one's achievements since leaving need to detract from the other's at DRFC?
Quote from: pib on November 01, 2023, 12:56:31 pmQuote from: Bentley Bullet on November 01, 2023, 12:48:16 pmPib, why have you changed the goalposts regarding former players who have a better scoring rate than Marquis? You originally said in Rovers history, now you say in the last 20 years!I haven't BB. You're welcome to name any you like. You named Billy Sharp. I threw Paul Barnes into the mix, that covers the last 20-21 years. Feel free to offer up the many others who have scored as consistently for us in our history. If there are as many as you say, then I'm sure you can change my mind to your reasoning that it is "par for the course" for strikers who start consistently to score at a rate of around 1 in 2 over multiple seasons for us.All the while continue to ignore the other points I have made and questions I have asked.Tom KeetleyColin BoothAlick JeffreyPeter DohertyClarrie JordanLaurie SheffieldTony LeightonReg BainesPaul BarnesBilly SharpWhat other points have you asked? I must have missed them.
Quote from: Bentley Bullet on November 01, 2023, 12:48:16 pmPib, why have you changed the goalposts regarding former players who have a better scoring rate than Marquis? You originally said in Rovers history, now you say in the last 20 years!I haven't BB. You're welcome to name any you like. You named Billy Sharp. I threw Paul Barnes into the mix, that covers the last 20-21 years. Feel free to offer up the many others who have scored as consistently for us in our history. If there are as many as you say, then I'm sure you can change my mind to your reasoning that it is "par for the course" for strikers who start consistently to score at a rate of around 1 in 2 over multiple seasons for us.All the while continue to ignore the other points I have made and questions I have asked.
Quote from: Chris Black come back on November 01, 2023, 12:43:38 pmAnyone who claims that they saw from the limited opportunities that May was given, a player who would turn into what he has, is clearly deceiving themselves. I think it was obvious that he deserved to be kept here rather than shipped out.