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BST, we played 13 league games after May left. W7 D2 L4 = 23 points.In the last 13 games before May left we W4 D4 L5 = 16 points, so my mistake there. the 'far more prolific' Okenabirhie scored 2 goals that season (one less than May). and only managed 11 the following season, and that was as a striker, a role that May rarely got with us. We might well have gone on a great run after May left, but it was hardly because May left, and certainly hardly because Okenabirhie replaced him!
Correction from me. We played 18 games after May played his last game for us.Your comment on goals scored in 19/20 is wilfully stupid.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on November 02, 2023, 08:47:20 pmCorrection from me. We played 18 games after May played his last game for us.Your comment on goals scored in 19/20 is wilfully stupid.And here we go with the insults!The fact is, May left us and we went on a downward spiral into League 2. Meanwhile, the League 2 team he joined went the other way and swapped places with us. Now, May is far too big a player for the likes of us, and I'm glad because supporters like you don't deserve such a player.
Quote from: Bentley Bullet on November 02, 2023, 08:58:52 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on November 02, 2023, 08:47:20 pmCorrection from me. We played 18 games after May played his last game for us.Your comment on goals scored in 19/20 is wilfully stupid.And here we go with the insults!The fact is, May left us and we went on a downward spiral into League 2. Meanwhile, the League 2 team he joined went the other way and swapped places with us. Now, May is far too big a player for the likes of us, and I'm glad because supporters like you don't deserve such a player.Its game set and match for us BB. Since leaving us Alfie as scored 0.44 goals per match Golden Boy as scored 0.27 goals per match. I don't understand this "what happened after Alfie's departure". To anyone who has played the game or understands the game it was very evident that Alfie's confidence was growing but Moore couldn't see it.
Really not worth falling out over- we’re all agreed that it’s great to see Alfie doing so well
You're doing it again Dickos. Ignoring facts when making your case.Within a couple of weeks of selling May, Moore made a permanent signing at centre forward who had, and did score goals at L1 level at a rate much above anything May had shown up to then.And it wasn't just Moore who didn't "give a chance" to May. The lad had been available nearly all of the playoff season under McCann and made 8 starts.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on November 01, 2023, 09:56:17 pmYou're doing it again Dickos. Ignoring facts when making your case.Within a couple of weeks of selling May, Moore made a permanent signing at centre forward who had, and did score goals at L1 level at a rate much above anything May had shown up to then.And it wasn't just Moore who didn't "give a chance" to May. The lad had been available nearly all of the playoff season under McCann and made 8 starts.He was 23 when we signed him, How many league one goals had Marquis scored at 23 or James hayter. Suggesting a player is no good because he hasn’t ripped up any trees at 23 is ridiculous. A good manager would’ve seen the potential, Moore isn’t a good manager
You're doing it again Dickos. Ignoring facts when making your case.Within a couple of weeks of selling May, Moore made a permanent signing at centre forward who had, and did score goals at L1 level at a rate much above anything May had shown up to then.And it wasn't just Moore who didn't "give a chance" to May. The lad had been available nearly all of the playoff season under McCann and made 8 starts.
Quote from: dickos1 on November 02, 2023, 11:23:29 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on November 01, 2023, 09:56:17 pmYou're doing it again Dickos. Ignoring facts when making your case.Within a couple of weeks of selling May, Moore made a permanent signing at centre forward who had, and did score goals at L1 level at a rate much above anything May had shown up to then.And it wasn't just Moore who didn't "give a chance" to May. The lad had been available nearly all of the playoff season under McCann and made 8 starts.He was 23 when we signed him, How many league one goals had Marquis scored at 23 or James hayter. Suggesting a player is no good because he hasn’t ripped up any trees at 23 is ridiculous. A good manager would’ve seen the potential, Moore isn’t a good manager McCann picked him for 8 starts in 2018/19.What's your conclusion on McCann's managerial ability?
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on November 01, 2023, 09:56:17 pmYou're doing it again Dickos. Ignoring facts when making your case.Within a couple of weeks of selling May, Moore made a permanent signing at centre forward who had, and did score goals at L1 level at a rate much above anything May had shown up to then.And it wasn't just Moore who didn't "give a chance" to May. The lad had been available nearly all of the playoff season under McCann and made 8 starts.He was 23 when we signed him, How many league one goals had Marquis scored at 23 or James hayter. Suggesting a player is no good because he hasn’t ripped up any trees at 23 is ridiculous. A good manager would’ve seen the potential, Moore isn’t a good manager
You're doing it again Dickos. Ignoring facts when making your case.Within a couple of weeks of selling May, Moore made a permanent signing at centre forward who had, and did score goals at L1 level at a rate much above anything May had shown up to then.And it wasn't just Moore who didn't "give a chance" to May. The lad had been available nearly all of the playoff season under McCann and made 8 starts.
This is probably the most pointless argument I have ever witnessed on this forum.
The point is also whether people could have foreseen he WASN'T capable of going on to be such a prolific striker at League One level. A few people on this forum said that he wasn't, and they were proved wrong. Those who said he WAS capable of being prolific at League One level were proved right.
Paint Pot trophy games don't count as they aren't first team fixtures. Hence why Tommy Rowe could play whilst suspended.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on November 03, 2023, 01:17:58 amQuote from: dickos1 on November 02, 2023, 11:23:29 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on November 01, 2023, 09:56:17 pmYou're doing it again Dickos. Ignoring facts when making your case.Within a couple of weeks of selling May, Moore made a permanent signing at centre forward who had, and did score goals at L1 level at a rate much above anything May had shown up to then.And it wasn't just Moore who didn't "give a chance" to May. The lad had been available nearly all of the playoff season under McCann and made 8 starts.He was 23 when we signed him, How many league one goals had Marquis scored at 23 or James hayter. Suggesting a player is no good because he hasn’t ripped up any trees at 23 is ridiculous. A good manager would’ve seen the potential, Moore isn’t a good manager McCann picked him for 8 starts in 2018/19.What's your conclusion on McCann's managerial ability?Not playing a young inexperienced player every week is certainly not the same as getting rid of them if that’s the point you’re attempting to make
Quote from: dickos1 on November 02, 2023, 11:23:29 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on November 01, 2023, 09:56:17 pmYou're doing it again Dickos. Ignoring facts when making your case.Within a couple of weeks of selling May, Moore made a permanent signing at centre forward who had, and did score goals at L1 level at a rate much above anything May had shown up to then.And it wasn't just Moore who didn't "give a chance" to May. The lad had been available nearly all of the playoff season under McCann and made 8 starts.He was 23 when we signed him, How many league one goals had Marquis scored at 23 or James hayter. Suggesting a player is no good because he hasn’t ripped up any trees at 23 is ridiculous. A good manager would’ve seen the potential, Moore isn’t a good manager McCann picked him for 8 starts in 2018/19.What's your conclusion on McCann's managerial ability?
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on November 01, 2023, 09:56:17 pmYou're doing it again Dickos. Ignoring facts when making your case.Within a couple of weeks of selling May, Moore made a permanent signing at centre forward who had, and did score goals at L1 level at a rate much above anything May had shown up to then.And it wasn't just Moore who didn't "give a chance" to May. The lad had been available nearly all of the playoff season under McCann and made 8 starts.He was 23 when we signed him, How many league one goals had Marquis scored at 23 or James hayter. Suggesting a player is no good because he hasn’t ripped up any trees at 23 is ridiculous. A good manager would’ve seen the potential, Moore isn’t a good manager
You're doing it again Dickos. Ignoring facts when making your case.Within a couple of weeks of selling May, Moore made a permanent signing at centre forward who had, and did score goals at L1 level at a rate much above anything May had shown up to then.And it wasn't just Moore who didn't "give a chance" to May. The lad had been available nearly all of the playoff season under McCann and made 8 starts.
Quote from: dickos1 on November 03, 2023, 06:29:41 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on November 03, 2023, 01:17:58 amQuote from: dickos1 on November 02, 2023, 11:23:29 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on November 01, 2023, 09:56:17 pmYou're doing it again Dickos. Ignoring facts when making your case.Within a couple of weeks of selling May, Moore made a permanent signing at centre forward who had, and did score goals at L1 level at a rate much above anything May had shown up to then.And it wasn't just Moore who didn't "give a chance" to May. The lad had been available nearly all of the playoff season under McCann and made 8 starts.He was 23 when we signed him, How many league one goals had Marquis scored at 23 or James hayter. Suggesting a player is no good because he hasn’t ripped up any trees at 23 is ridiculous. A good manager would’ve seen the potential, Moore isn’t a good manager McCann picked him for 8 starts in 2018/19.What's your conclusion on McCann's managerial ability?Not playing a young inexperienced player every week is certainly not the same as getting rid of them if that’s the point you’re attempting to make By the end of the 18/19 season, May was days away from his 26th birthday and had made 94 appearances for us.Next?
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on November 03, 2023, 01:17:58 amQuote from: dickos1 on November 02, 2023, 11:23:29 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on November 01, 2023, 09:56:17 pmYou're doing it again Dickos. Ignoring facts when making your case.Within a couple of weeks of selling May, Moore made a permanent signing at centre forward who had, and did score goals at L1 level at a rate much above anything May had shown up to then.And it wasn't just Moore who didn't "give a chance" to May. The lad had been available nearly all of the playoff season under McCann and made 8 starts.He was 23 when we signed him, How many league one goals had Marquis scored at 23 or James hayter. Suggesting a player is no good because he hasn’t ripped up any trees at 23 is ridiculous. A good manager would’ve seen the potential, Moore isn’t a good manager McCann picked him for 8 starts in 2018/19.What's your conclusion on McCann's managerial ability?Not playing a young inexperienced player every week is certainly not the same as getting rid of them if that’s the point you’re attempting to make
Quote from: dickos1 on November 02, 2023, 11:23:29 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on November 01, 2023, 09:56:17 pmYou're doing it again Dickos. Ignoring facts when making your case.Within a couple of weeks of selling May, Moore made a permanent signing at centre forward who had, and did score goals at L1 level at a rate much above anything May had shown up to then.And it wasn't just Moore who didn't "give a chance" to May. The lad had been available nearly all of the playoff season under McCann and made 8 starts.He was 23 when we signed him, How many league one goals had Marquis scored at 23 or James hayter. Suggesting a player is no good because he hasn’t ripped up any trees at 23 is ridiculous. A good manager would’ve seen the potential, Moore isn’t a good manager McCann picked him for 8 starts in 2018/19.What's your conclusion on McCann's managerial ability?
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on November 01, 2023, 09:56:17 pmYou're doing it again Dickos. Ignoring facts when making your case.Within a couple of weeks of selling May, Moore made a permanent signing at centre forward who had, and did score goals at L1 level at a rate much above anything May had shown up to then.And it wasn't just Moore who didn't "give a chance" to May. The lad had been available nearly all of the playoff season under McCann and made 8 starts.He was 23 when we signed him, How many league one goals had Marquis scored at 23 or James hayter. Suggesting a player is no good because he hasn’t ripped up any trees at 23 is ridiculous. A good manager would’ve seen the potential, Moore isn’t a good manager
You're doing it again Dickos. Ignoring facts when making your case.Within a couple of weeks of selling May, Moore made a permanent signing at centre forward who had, and did score goals at L1 level at a rate much above anything May had shown up to then.And it wasn't just Moore who didn't "give a chance" to May. The lad had been available nearly all of the playoff season under McCann and made 8 starts.