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There was criticism of journalists giving Schofield an easy time and I put in a word for Leon Wobschall of the Yorkshire Post and the DFP’s Paul Goodwin who probably convinced the hierarchy at the club that those on here were not just a vocal minority.They deserve credit and thanks.
I'm simply thoroughly relieved this evening at this news In a complete volte face I'm now actually looking forward to next season with optimism.No more to add.
Quote from: Branton Red on May 09, 2023, 08:20:40 pmI'm simply thoroughly relieved this evening at this news In a complete volte face I'm now actually looking forward to next season with optimism.No more to add.I look towards next season with concerns why because we still have Blunt who like Bates and Richardson before him will hold the club back. Do the honourable thing Blunt go, you never gave DS a chance.
Quote from: ForsolongaRover on May 11, 2023, 12:01:32 amThere was criticism of journalists giving Schofield an easy time and I put in a word for Leon Wobschall of the Yorkshire Post and the DFP’s Paul Goodwin who probably convinced the hierarchy at the club that those on here were not just a vocal minority.They deserve credit and thanks. Absolutely ridiculous!I can assure you that this never happened.
Quote from: silent majority on May 11, 2023, 10:06:59 amQuote from: ForsolongaRover on May 11, 2023, 12:01:32 amThere was criticism of journalists giving Schofield an easy time and I put in a word for Leon Wobschall of the Yorkshire Post and the DFP’s Paul Goodwin who probably convinced the hierarchy at the club that those on here were not just a vocal minority.They deserve credit and thanks. Absolutely ridiculous!I can assure you that this never happened.I have noticed, Silent Majority, that you seem able to summarily (and often dismissively) put down so many of the theories advanced on here about the inner workings of the club’s management. In your role as a fans’ representative, it is equally surprising that you provide so little feedback. If you are involved enough to know what is not true, why do you not disclose the truth behind so many of the issues about which we speculate?With such intimate knowledge you must know more than has so far been published about what is happening in the appointment of the new manager and whether the HoFO role is being reassessed. I wonder what views on this you have expressed on behalf of the supporters?
Quote from: ForsolongaRover on May 11, 2023, 03:37:35 pmQuote from: silent majority on May 11, 2023, 10:06:59 amQuote from: ForsolongaRover on May 11, 2023, 12:01:32 amThere was criticism of journalists giving Schofield an easy time and I put in a word for Leon Wobschall of the Yorkshire Post and the DFP’s Paul Goodwin who probably convinced the hierarchy at the club that those on here were not just a vocal minority.They deserve credit and thanks. Absolutely ridiculous!I can assure you that this never happened.I have noticed, Silent Majority, that you seem able to summarily (and often dismissively) put down so many of the theories advanced on here about the inner workings of the club’s management. In your role as a fans’ representative, it is equally surprising that you provide so little feedback. If you are involved enough to know what is not true, why do you not disclose the truth behind so many of the issues about which we speculate?With such intimate knowledge you must know more than has so far been published about what is happening in the appointment of the new manager and whether the HoFO role is being reassessed. I wonder what views on this you have expressed on behalf of the supporters?Oh but I do, its just that some of you fail to see the points I've made.But this could be a long discussion. I get those who don't believe what I say, I get those who state that I lie, I get those who claim I don't represent them et etc etc.And now you want me to tell you everything that's going on in the club when I don't even know who you are. But if you feel that you know what my responsibility as a 'fans rep' is then go ahead, lets hear it.
Quote from: silent majority on May 11, 2023, 04:10:08 pmQuote from: ForsolongaRover on May 11, 2023, 03:37:35 pmQuote from: silent majority on May 11, 2023, 10:06:59 amQuote from: ForsolongaRover on May 11, 2023, 12:01:32 amThere was criticism of journalists giving Schofield an easy time and I put in a word for Leon Wobschall of the Yorkshire Post and the DFP’s Paul Goodwin who probably convinced the hierarchy at the club that those on here were not just a vocal minority.They deserve credit and thanks. Absolutely ridiculous!I can assure you that this never happened.I have noticed, Silent Majority, that you seem able to summarily (and often dismissively) put down so many of the theories advanced on here about the inner workings of the club’s management. In your role as a fans’ representative, it is equally surprising that you provide so little feedback. If you are involved enough to know what is not true, why do you not disclose the truth behind so many of the issues about which we speculate?With such intimate knowledge you must know more than has so far been published about what is happening in the appointment of the new manager and whether the HoFO role is being reassessed. I wonder what views on this you have expressed on behalf of the supporters?Oh but I do, its just that some of you fail to see the points I've made.But this could be a long discussion. I get those who don't believe what I say, I get those who state that I lie, I get those who claim I don't represent them et etc etc.And now you want me to tell you everything that's going on in the club when I don't even know who you are. But if you feel that you know what my responsibility as a 'fans rep' is then go ahead, lets hear it.Who do you represent ?
Quote from: TonySoprano on May 11, 2023, 05:00:14 pmQuote from: silent majority on May 11, 2023, 04:10:08 pmQuote from: ForsolongaRover on May 11, 2023, 03:37:35 pmQuote from: silent majority on May 11, 2023, 10:06:59 amQuote from: ForsolongaRover on May 11, 2023, 12:01:32 amThere was criticism of journalists giving Schofield an easy time and I put in a word for Leon Wobschall of the Yorkshire Post and the DFP’s Paul Goodwin who probably convinced the hierarchy at the club that those on here were not just a vocal minority.They deserve credit and thanks. Absolutely ridiculous!I can assure you that this never happened.I have noticed, Silent Majority, that you seem able to summarily (and often dismissively) put down so many of the theories advanced on here about the inner workings of the club’s management. In your role as a fans’ representative, it is equally surprising that you provide so little feedback. If you are involved enough to know what is not true, why do you not disclose the truth behind so many of the issues about which we speculate?With such intimate knowledge you must know more than has so far been published about what is happening in the appointment of the new manager and whether the HoFO role is being reassessed. I wonder what views on this you have expressed on behalf of the supporters?Oh but I do, its just that some of you fail to see the points I've made.But this could be a long discussion. I get those who don't believe what I say, I get those who state that I lie, I get those who claim I don't represent them et etc etc.And now you want me to tell you everything that's going on in the club when I don't even know who you are. But if you feel that you know what my responsibility as a 'fans rep' is then go ahead, lets hear it.Who do you represent ? The VSC
Quote from: silent majority on May 11, 2023, 05:06:58 pmQuote from: TonySoprano on May 11, 2023, 05:00:14 pmQuote from: silent majority on May 11, 2023, 04:10:08 pmQuote from: ForsolongaRover on May 11, 2023, 03:37:35 pmQuote from: silent majority on May 11, 2023, 10:06:59 amQuote from: ForsolongaRover on May 11, 2023, 12:01:32 amThere was criticism of journalists giving Schofield an easy time and I put in a word for Leon Wobschall of the Yorkshire Post and the DFP’s Paul Goodwin who probably convinced the hierarchy at the club that those on here were not just a vocal minority.They deserve credit and thanks. Absolutely ridiculous!I can assure you that this never happened.I have noticed, Silent Majority, that you seem able to summarily (and often dismissively) put down so many of the theories advanced on here about the inner workings of the club’s management. In your role as a fans’ representative, it is equally surprising that you provide so little feedback. If you are involved enough to know what is not true, why do you not disclose the truth behind so many of the issues about which we speculate?With such intimate knowledge you must know more than has so far been published about what is happening in the appointment of the new manager and whether the HoFO role is being reassessed. I wonder what views on this you have expressed on behalf of the supporters?Oh but I do, its just that some of you fail to see the points I've made.But this could be a long discussion. I get those who don't believe what I say, I get those who state that I lie, I get those who claim I don't represent them et etc etc.And now you want me to tell you everything that's going on in the club when I don't even know who you are. But if you feel that you know what my responsibility as a 'fans rep' is then go ahead, lets hear it.Who do you represent ? The VSCSo you don't represent all fans, just a tiny fraction of the fan base? Do we have anyone who represents the whole fan base ?
Quote from: silent majority on May 11, 2023, 05:06:58 pmQuote from: TonySoprano on May 11, 2023, 05:00:14 pmQuote from: silent majority on May 11, 2023, 04:10:08 pmQuote from: ForsolongaRover on May 11, 2023, 03:37:35 pmQuote from: silent majority on May 11, 2023, 10:06:59 amQuote from: ForsolongaRover on May 11, 2023, 12:01:32 amThere was criticism of journalists giving Schofield an easy time and I put in a word for Leon Wobschall of the Yorkshire Post and the DFP’s Paul Goodwin who probably convinced the hierarchy at the club that those on here were not just a vocal minority.They deserve credit and thanks. Absolutely ridiculous!I can assure you that this never happened.I have noticed, Silent Majority, that you seem able to summarily (and often dismissively) put down so many of the theories advanced on here about the inner workings of the club’s management. In your role as a fans’ representative, it is equally surprising that you provide so little feedback. If you are involved enough to know what is not true, why do you not disclose the truth behind so many of the issues about which we speculate?With such intimate knowledge you must know more than has so far been published about what is happening in the appointment of the new manager and whether the HoFO role is being reassessed. I wonder what views on this you have expressed on behalf of the supporters?Oh but I do, its just that some of you fail to see the points I've made.But this could be a long discussion. I get those who don't believe what I say, I get those who state that I lie, I get those who claim I don't represent them et etc etc.And now you want me to tell you everything that's going on in the club when I don't even know who you are. But if you feel that you know what my responsibility as a 'fans rep' is then go ahead, lets hear it.Who do you represent ? The VSCYou misunderstand SM. I am sure that you do not intend to be evasive or secretive, but I get the impression that you feel I am being hostile when all I am wanting is for a more accommodating style. It is surely a given that we are all interested in what goes on at the club because we are hopeful of its success. You obviously have a deep understanding of the inner workings and if you can share that with us a little more, we will all move forward in greater harmony.
Quote from: TonySoprano on May 11, 2023, 05:51:29 pmQuote from: silent majority on May 11, 2023, 05:06:58 pmQuote from: TonySoprano on May 11, 2023, 05:00:14 pmQuote from: silent majority on May 11, 2023, 04:10:08 pmQuote from: ForsolongaRover on May 11, 2023, 03:37:35 pmQuote from: silent majority on May 11, 2023, 10:06:59 amQuote from: ForsolongaRover on May 11, 2023, 12:01:32 amThere was criticism of journalists giving Schofield an easy time and I put in a word for Leon Wobschall of the Yorkshire Post and the DFP’s Paul Goodwin who probably convinced the hierarchy at the club that those on here were not just a vocal minority.They deserve credit and thanks. Absolutely ridiculous!I can assure you that this never happened.I have noticed, Silent Majority, that you seem able to summarily (and often dismissively) put down so many of the theories advanced on here about the inner workings of the club’s management. In your role as a fans’ representative, it is equally surprising that you provide so little feedback. If you are involved enough to know what is not true, why do you not disclose the truth behind so many of the issues about which we speculate?With such intimate knowledge you must know more than has so far been published about what is happening in the appointment of the new manager and whether the HoFO role is being reassessed. I wonder what views on this you have expressed on behalf of the supporters?Oh but I do, its just that some of you fail to see the points I've made.But this could be a long discussion. I get those who don't believe what I say, I get those who state that I lie, I get those who claim I don't represent them et etc etc.And now you want me to tell you everything that's going on in the club when I don't even know who you are. But if you feel that you know what my responsibility as a 'fans rep' is then go ahead, lets hear it.Who do you represent ? The VSCSo you don't represent all fans, just a tiny fraction of the fan base? Do we have anyone who represents the whole fan base ? This is a very familiar argument, just different user name
Quote from: Filo on May 11, 2023, 06:12:21 pmQuote from: TonySoprano on May 11, 2023, 05:51:29 pmQuote from: silent majority on May 11, 2023, 05:06:58 pmQuote from: TonySoprano on May 11, 2023, 05:00:14 pmQuote from: silent majority on May 11, 2023, 04:10:08 pmQuote from: ForsolongaRover on May 11, 2023, 03:37:35 pmQuote from: silent majority on May 11, 2023, 10:06:59 amQuote from: ForsolongaRover on May 11, 2023, 12:01:32 amThere was criticism of journalists giving Schofield an easy time and I put in a word for Leon Wobschall of the Yorkshire Post and the DFP’s Paul Goodwin who probably convinced the hierarchy at the club that those on here were not just a vocal minority.They deserve credit and thanks. Absolutely ridiculous!I can assure you that this never happened.I have noticed, Silent Majority, that you seem able to summarily (and often dismissively) put down so many of the theories advanced on here about the inner workings of the club’s management. In your role as a fans’ representative, it is equally surprising that you provide so little feedback. If you are involved enough to know what is not true, why do you not disclose the truth behind so many of the issues about which we speculate?With such intimate knowledge you must know more than has so far been published about what is happening in the appointment of the new manager and whether the HoFO role is being reassessed. I wonder what views on this you have expressed on behalf of the supporters?Oh but I do, its just that some of you fail to see the points I've made.But this could be a long discussion. I get those who don't believe what I say, I get those who state that I lie, I get those who claim I don't represent them et etc etc.And now you want me to tell you everything that's going on in the club when I don't even know who you are. But if you feel that you know what my responsibility as a 'fans rep' is then go ahead, lets hear it.Who do you represent ? The VSCSo you don't represent all fans, just a tiny fraction of the fan base? Do we have anyone who represents the whole fan base ? This is a very familiar argument, just different user nameIt's a strange argument as well though Filo. Is claiming to represent the VSC somehow diminishing? Is it that my opinion is not as valid as someone else's? They never quite put their argument in terms that we are meant to understand.When I was Dep Chair of the FSF I represented over 800,000 football supporters but even then I didn't claim to represent all supporters, just someone who understands the arguments better.
Quote from: silent majority on May 11, 2023, 06:18:59 pmQuote from: Filo on May 11, 2023, 06:12:21 pmQuote from: TonySoprano on May 11, 2023, 05:51:29 pmQuote from: silent majority on May 11, 2023, 05:06:58 pmQuote from: TonySoprano on May 11, 2023, 05:00:14 pmQuote from: silent majority on May 11, 2023, 04:10:08 pmQuote from: ForsolongaRover on May 11, 2023, 03:37:35 pmQuote from: silent majority on May 11, 2023, 10:06:59 amQuote from: ForsolongaRover on May 11, 2023, 12:01:32 amThere was criticism of journalists giving Schofield an easy time and I put in a word for Leon Wobschall of the Yorkshire Post and the DFP’s Paul Goodwin who probably convinced the hierarchy at the club that those on here were not just a vocal minority.They deserve credit and thanks. Absolutely ridiculous!I can assure you that this never happened.I have noticed, Silent Majority, that you seem able to summarily (and often dismissively) put down so many of the theories advanced on here about the inner workings of the club’s management. In your role as a fans’ representative, it is equally surprising that you provide so little feedback. If you are involved enough to know what is not true, why do you not disclose the truth behind so many of the issues about which we speculate?With such intimate knowledge you must know more than has so far been published about what is happening in the appointment of the new manager and whether the HoFO role is being reassessed. I wonder what views on this you have expressed on behalf of the supporters?Oh but I do, its just that some of you fail to see the points I've made.But this could be a long discussion. I get those who don't believe what I say, I get those who state that I lie, I get those who claim I don't represent them et etc etc.And now you want me to tell you everything that's going on in the club when I don't even know who you are. But if you feel that you know what my responsibility as a 'fans rep' is then go ahead, lets hear it.Who do you represent ? The VSCSo you don't represent all fans, just a tiny fraction of the fan base? Do we have anyone who represents the whole fan base ? This is a very familiar argument, just different user nameIt's a strange argument as well though Filo. Is claiming to represent the VSC somehow diminishing? Is it that my opinion is not as valid as someone else's? They never quite put their argument in terms that we are meant to understand.When I was Dep Chair of the FSF I represented over 800,000 football supporters but even then I didn't claim to represent all supporters, just someone who understands the arguments better.My point is that you say your a fans rep, but yet the more accurate description would be vsc rep. Which is fine now you've cleared up who you represent. Although I genuinely don't understand your prickly demeanour that comes across on here. Andy liney for instance was very accomadating and never argumentative despite having questions thrown at him left right and centre.
Quote from: TonySoprano on May 11, 2023, 06:29:14 pmQuote from: silent majority on May 11, 2023, 06:18:59 pmQuote from: Filo on May 11, 2023, 06:12:21 pmQuote from: TonySoprano on May 11, 2023, 05:51:29 pmQuote from: silent majority on May 11, 2023, 05:06:58 pmQuote from: TonySoprano on May 11, 2023, 05:00:14 pmQuote from: silent majority on May 11, 2023, 04:10:08 pmQuote from: ForsolongaRover on May 11, 2023, 03:37:35 pmQuote from: silent majority on May 11, 2023, 10:06:59 amQuote from: ForsolongaRover on May 11, 2023, 12:01:32 amThere was criticism of journalists giving Schofield an easy time and I put in a word for Leon Wobschall of the Yorkshire Post and the DFP’s Paul Goodwin who probably convinced the hierarchy at the club that those on here were not just a vocal minority.They deserve credit and thanks. Absolutely ridiculous!I can assure you that this never happened.I have noticed, Silent Majority, that you seem able to summarily (and often dismissively) put down so many of the theories advanced on here about the inner workings of the club’s management. In your role as a fans’ representative, it is equally surprising that you provide so little feedback. If you are involved enough to know what is not true, why do you not disclose the truth behind so many of the issues about which we speculate?With such intimate knowledge you must know more than has so far been published about what is happening in the appointment of the new manager and whether the HoFO role is being reassessed. I wonder what views on this you have expressed on behalf of the supporters?Oh but I do, its just that some of you fail to see the points I've made.But this could be a long discussion. I get those who don't believe what I say, I get those who state that I lie, I get those who claim I don't represent them et etc etc.And now you want me to tell you everything that's going on in the club when I don't even know who you are. But if you feel that you know what my responsibility as a 'fans rep' is then go ahead, lets hear it.Who do you represent ? The VSCSo you don't represent all fans, just a tiny fraction of the fan base? Do we have anyone who represents the whole fan base ? This is a very familiar argument, just different user nameIt's a strange argument as well though Filo. Is claiming to represent the VSC somehow diminishing? Is it that my opinion is not as valid as someone else's? They never quite put their argument in terms that we are meant to understand.When I was Dep Chair of the FSF I represented over 800,000 football supporters but even then I didn't claim to represent all supporters, just someone who understands the arguments better.My point is that you say your a fans rep, but yet the more accurate description would be vsc rep. Which is fine now you've cleared up who you represent. Although I genuinely don't understand your prickly demeanour that comes across on here. Andy liney for instance was very accomadating and never argumentative despite having questions thrown at him left right and centre. Joined in late April this year, only 54 posts yet you seem to remember how Andy Liney posted? Hmmmm.
Quote from: Not Now Kato on May 11, 2023, 06:50:20 pmQuote from: TonySoprano on May 11, 2023, 06:29:14 pmQuote from: silent majority on May 11, 2023, 06:18:59 pmQuote from: Filo on May 11, 2023, 06:12:21 pmQuote from: TonySoprano on May 11, 2023, 05:51:29 pmQuote from: silent majority on May 11, 2023, 05:06:58 pmQuote from: TonySoprano on May 11, 2023, 05:00:14 pmQuote from: silent majority on May 11, 2023, 04:10:08 pmQuote from: ForsolongaRover on May 11, 2023, 03:37:35 pmQuote from: silent majority on May 11, 2023, 10:06:59 amQuote from: ForsolongaRover on May 11, 2023, 12:01:32 amThere was criticism of journalists giving Schofield an easy time and I put in a word for Leon Wobschall of the Yorkshire Post and the DFP’s Paul Goodwin who probably convinced the hierarchy at the club that those on here were not just a vocal minority.They deserve credit and thanks. Absolutely ridiculous!I can assure you that this never happened.I have noticed, Silent Majority, that you seem able to summarily (and often dismissively) put down so many of the theories advanced on here about the inner workings of the club’s management. In your role as a fans’ representative, it is equally surprising that you provide so little feedback. If you are involved enough to know what is not true, why do you not disclose the truth behind so many of the issues about which we speculate?With such intimate knowledge you must know more than has so far been published about what is happening in the appointment of the new manager and whether the HoFO role is being reassessed. I wonder what views on this you have expressed on behalf of the supporters?Oh but I do, its just that some of you fail to see the points I've made.But this could be a long discussion. I get those who don't believe what I say, I get those who state that I lie, I get those who claim I don't represent them et etc etc.And now you want me to tell you everything that's going on in the club when I don't even know who you are. But if you feel that you know what my responsibility as a 'fans rep' is then go ahead, lets hear it.Who do you represent ? The VSCSo you don't represent all fans, just a tiny fraction of the fan base? Do we have anyone who represents the whole fan base ? This is a very familiar argument, just different user nameIt's a strange argument as well though Filo. Is claiming to represent the VSC somehow diminishing? Is it that my opinion is not as valid as someone else's? They never quite put their argument in terms that we are meant to understand.When I was Dep Chair of the FSF I represented over 800,000 football supporters but even then I didn't claim to represent all supporters, just someone who understands the arguments better.My point is that you say your a fans rep, but yet the more accurate description would be vsc rep. Which is fine now you've cleared up who you represent. Although I genuinely don't understand your prickly demeanour that comes across on here. Andy liney for instance was very accomadating and never argumentative despite having questions thrown at him left right and centre. Joined in late April this year, only 54 posts yet you seem to remember how Andy Liney posted? Hmmmm.Not sure why my only recent joining of this forum matters in regards to knowing how a previous poster posted. You don't need to be a member to be able to read the posts!
Quote from: Tommy A on May 09, 2023, 11:22:25 amQuote from: MachoMadness on May 09, 2023, 10:58:44 amQuote from: Jimmydee on May 09, 2023, 10:44:20 amI wonder if the retainer list is already sorted.In theory this should be down to Copps, so Schofield leaving shouldn't affect it.Well if I were an experienced manager coming into the job I wouldn't be taking instructions from Coppinger (no league games as a manager) on which players I need!Well if you want the job you will have to be prepared to work with Copps. As he will be employing/recommending you. End of.
Quote from: MachoMadness on May 09, 2023, 10:58:44 amQuote from: Jimmydee on May 09, 2023, 10:44:20 amI wonder if the retainer list is already sorted.In theory this should be down to Copps, so Schofield leaving shouldn't affect it.Well if I were an experienced manager coming into the job I wouldn't be taking instructions from Coppinger (no league games as a manager) on which players I need!
Quote from: Jimmydee on May 09, 2023, 10:44:20 amI wonder if the retainer list is already sorted.In theory this should be down to Copps, so Schofield leaving shouldn't affect it.
I wonder if the retainer list is already sorted.
Quote from: Tommy A on May 09, 2023, 11:22:25 amQuote from: MachoMadness on May 09, 2023, 10:58:44 amQuote from: Jimmydee on May 09, 2023, 10:44:20 amI wonder if the retainer list is already sorted.In theory this should be down to Copps, so Schofield leaving shouldn't affect it.Well if I were an experienced manager coming into the job I wouldn't be taking instructions from Coppinger (no league games as a manager) on which players I need!I'm sure Klopp thought that about Michael Edwards.
Quote from: DonnyOsmond on May 09, 2023, 04:47:59 pmQuote from: Tommy A on May 09, 2023, 11:22:25 amQuote from: MachoMadness on May 09, 2023, 10:58:44 amQuote from: Jimmydee on May 09, 2023, 10:44:20 amI wonder if the retainer list is already sorted.In theory this should be down to Copps, so Schofield leaving shouldn't affect it.Well if I were an experienced manager coming into the job I wouldn't be taking instructions from Coppinger (no league games as a manager) on which players I need!I'm sure Klopp thought that about Michael Edwards.Not sure what relevance that has.I'm responding to the suggestion that Copps will be decided who is retained before the new manager arrives. No manager in any business will allow their staff to be chosen for them given that the buck stops with the manager
Quote from: TonySoprano on May 11, 2023, 06:55:26 pmQuote from: Not Now Kato on May 11, 2023, 06:50:20 pmQuote from: TonySoprano on May 11, 2023, 06:29:14 pmQuote from: silent majority on May 11, 2023, 06:18:59 pmQuote from: Filo on May 11, 2023, 06:12:21 pmQuote from: TonySoprano on May 11, 2023, 05:51:29 pmQuote from: silent majority on May 11, 2023, 05:06:58 pmQuote from: TonySoprano on May 11, 2023, 05:00:14 pmQuote from: silent majority on May 11, 2023, 04:10:08 pmQuote from: ForsolongaRover on May 11, 2023, 03:37:35 pmQuote from: silent majority on May 11, 2023, 10:06:59 amQuote from: ForsolongaRover on May 11, 2023, 12:01:32 amThere was criticism of journalists giving Schofield an easy time and I put in a word for Leon Wobschall of the Yorkshire Post and the DFP’s Paul Goodwin who probably convinced the hierarchy at the club that those on here were not just a vocal minority.They deserve credit and thanks. Absolutely ridiculous!I can assure you that this never happened.I have noticed, Silent Majority, that you seem able to summarily (and often dismissively) put down so many of the theories advanced on here about the inner workings of the club’s management. In your role as a fans’ representative, it is equally surprising that you provide so little feedback. If you are involved enough to know what is not true, why do you not disclose the truth behind so many of the issues about which we speculate?With such intimate knowledge you must know more than has so far been published about what is happening in the appointment of the new manager and whether the HoFO role is being reassessed. I wonder what views on this you have expressed on behalf of the supporters?Oh but I do, its just that some of you fail to see the points I've made.But this could be a long discussion. I get those who don't believe what I say, I get those who state that I lie, I get those who claim I don't represent them et etc etc.And now you want me to tell you everything that's going on in the club when I don't even know who you are. But if you feel that you know what my responsibility as a 'fans rep' is then go ahead, lets hear it.Who do you represent ? The VSCSo you don't represent all fans, just a tiny fraction of the fan base? Do we have anyone who represents the whole fan base ? This is a very familiar argument, just different user nameIt's a strange argument as well though Filo. Is claiming to represent the VSC somehow diminishing? Is it that my opinion is not as valid as someone else's? They never quite put their argument in terms that we are meant to understand.When I was Dep Chair of the FSF I represented over 800,000 football supporters but even then I didn't claim to represent all supporters, just someone who understands the arguments better.My point is that you say your a fans rep, but yet the more accurate description would be vsc rep. Which is fine now you've cleared up who you represent. Although I genuinely don't understand your prickly demeanour that comes across on here. Andy liney for instance was very accomadating and never argumentative despite having questions thrown at him left right and centre. Joined in late April this year, only 54 posts yet you seem to remember how Andy Liney posted? Hmmmm.Not sure why my only recent joining of this forum matters in regards to knowing how a previous poster posted. You don't need to be a member to be able to read the posts! Have you previously posted on this forum under a different user name?Honesty comes in many different forms.
Quote from: Not Now Kato on May 11, 2023, 06:50:20 pmQuote from: TonySoprano on May 11, 2023, 06:29:14 pmQuote from: silent majority on May 11, 2023, 06:18:59 pmQuote from: Filo on May 11, 2023, 06:12:21 pmQuote from: TonySoprano on May 11, 2023, 05:51:29 pmQuote from: silent majority on May 11, 2023, 05:06:58 pmQuote from: TonySoprano on May 11, 2023, 05:00:14 pmQuote from: silent majority on May 11, 2023, 04:10:08 pmQuote from: ForsolongaRover on May 11, 2023, 03:37:35 pmQuote from: silent majority on May 11, 2023, 10:06:59 amQuote from: ForsolongaRover on May 11, 2023, 12:01:32 amThere was criticism of journalists giving Schofield an easy time and I put in a word for Leon Wobschall of the Yorkshire Post and the DFP’s Paul Goodwin who probably convinced the hierarchy at the club that those on here were not just a vocal minority.They deserve credit and thanks. Absolutely ridiculous!I can assure you that this never happened.I have noticed, Silent Majority, that you seem able to summarily (and often dismissively) put down so many of the theories advanced on here about the inner workings of the club’s management. In your role as a fans’ representative, it is equally surprising that you provide so little feedback. If you are involved enough to know what is not true, why do you not disclose the truth behind so many of the issues about which we speculate?With such intimate knowledge you must know more than has so far been published about what is happening in the appointment of the new manager and whether the HoFO role is being reassessed. I wonder what views on this you have expressed on behalf of the supporters?Oh but I do, its just that some of you fail to see the points I've made.But this could be a long discussion. I get those who don't believe what I say, I get those who state that I lie, I get those who claim I don't represent them et etc etc.And now you want me to tell you everything that's going on in the club when I don't even know who you are. But if you feel that you know what my responsibility as a 'fans rep' is then go ahead, lets hear it.Who do you represent ? The VSCSo you don't represent all fans, just a tiny fraction of the fan base? Do we have anyone who represents the whole fan base ? This is a very familiar argument, just different user nameIt's a strange argument as well though Filo. Is claiming to represent the VSC somehow diminishing? Is it that my opinion is not as valid as someone else's? They never quite put their argument in terms that we are meant to understand.When I was Dep Chair of the FSF I represented over 800,000 football supporters but even then I didn't claim to represent all supporters, just someone who understands the arguments better.My point is that you say your a fans rep, but yet the more accurate description would be vsc rep. Which is fine now you've cleared up who you represent. Although I genuinely don't understand your prickly demeanour that comes across on here. Andy liney for instance was very accomadating and never argumentative despite having questions thrown at him left right and centre. Joined in late April this year, only 54 posts yet you seem to remember how Andy Liney posted? Hmmmm.Not sure why my only recent joining of this forum matters in regards to knowing how a previous poster posted. You don't need to be a member to be able to read the posts!
Quote from: TonySoprano on May 11, 2023, 06:29:14 pmQuote from: silent majority on May 11, 2023, 06:18:59 pmQuote from: Filo on May 11, 2023, 06:12:21 pmQuote from: TonySoprano on May 11, 2023, 05:51:29 pmQuote from: silent majority on May 11, 2023, 05:06:58 pmQuote from: TonySoprano on May 11, 2023, 05:00:14 pmQuote from: silent majority on May 11, 2023, 04:10:08 pmQuote from: ForsolongaRover on May 11, 2023, 03:37:35 pmQuote from: silent majority on May 11, 2023, 10:06:59 amQuote from: ForsolongaRover on May 11, 2023, 12:01:32 amThere was criticism of journalists giving Schofield an easy time and I put in a word for Leon Wobschall of the Yorkshire Post and the DFP’s Paul Goodwin who probably convinced the hierarchy at the club that those on here were not just a vocal minority.They deserve credit and thanks. Absolutely ridiculous!I can assure you that this never happened.I have noticed, Silent Majority, that you seem able to summarily (and often dismissively) put down so many of the theories advanced on here about the inner workings of the club’s management. In your role as a fans’ representative, it is equally surprising that you provide so little feedback. If you are involved enough to know what is not true, why do you not disclose the truth behind so many of the issues about which we speculate?With such intimate knowledge you must know more than has so far been published about what is happening in the appointment of the new manager and whether the HoFO role is being reassessed. I wonder what views on this you have expressed on behalf of the supporters?Oh but I do, its just that some of you fail to see the points I've made.But this could be a long discussion. I get those who don't believe what I say, I get those who state that I lie, I get those who claim I don't represent them et etc etc.And now you want me to tell you everything that's going on in the club when I don't even know who you are. But if you feel that you know what my responsibility as a 'fans rep' is then go ahead, lets hear it.Who do you represent ? The VSCSo you don't represent all fans, just a tiny fraction of the fan base? Do we have anyone who represents the whole fan base ? This is a very familiar argument, just different user nameIt's a strange argument as well though Filo. Is claiming to represent the VSC somehow diminishing? Is it that my opinion is not as valid as someone else's? They never quite put their argument in terms that we are meant to understand.When I was Dep Chair of the FSF I represented over 800,000 football supporters but even then I didn't claim to represent all supporters, just someone who understands the arguments better.My point is that you say your a fans rep, but yet the more accurate description would be vsc rep. Which is fine now you've cleared up who you represent. Although I genuinely don't understand your prickly demeanour that comes across on here. Andy liney for instance was very accomadating and never argumentative despite having questions thrown at him left right and centre. Joined in late April this year, only 54 posts yet you seem to remember how Andy Liney posted? Hmmmm.
Quote from: silent majority on May 11, 2023, 06:18:59 pmQuote from: Filo on May 11, 2023, 06:12:21 pmQuote from: TonySoprano on May 11, 2023, 05:51:29 pmQuote from: silent majority on May 11, 2023, 05:06:58 pmQuote from: TonySoprano on May 11, 2023, 05:00:14 pmQuote from: silent majority on May 11, 2023, 04:10:08 pmQuote from: ForsolongaRover on May 11, 2023, 03:37:35 pmQuote from: silent majority on May 11, 2023, 10:06:59 amQuote from: ForsolongaRover on May 11, 2023, 12:01:32 amThere was criticism of journalists giving Schofield an easy time and I put in a word for Leon Wobschall of the Yorkshire Post and the DFP’s Paul Goodwin who probably convinced the hierarchy at the club that those on here were not just a vocal minority.They deserve credit and thanks. Absolutely ridiculous!I can assure you that this never happened.I have noticed, Silent Majority, that you seem able to summarily (and often dismissively) put down so many of the theories advanced on here about the inner workings of the club’s management. In your role as a fans’ representative, it is equally surprising that you provide so little feedback. If you are involved enough to know what is not true, why do you not disclose the truth behind so many of the issues about which we speculate?With such intimate knowledge you must know more than has so far been published about what is happening in the appointment of the new manager and whether the HoFO role is being reassessed. I wonder what views on this you have expressed on behalf of the supporters?Oh but I do, its just that some of you fail to see the points I've made.But this could be a long discussion. I get those who don't believe what I say, I get those who state that I lie, I get those who claim I don't represent them et etc etc.And now you want me to tell you everything that's going on in the club when I don't even know who you are. But if you feel that you know what my responsibility as a 'fans rep' is then go ahead, lets hear it.Who do you represent ? The VSCSo you don't represent all fans, just a tiny fraction of the fan base? Do we have anyone who represents the whole fan base ? This is a very familiar argument, just different user nameIt's a strange argument as well though Filo. Is claiming to represent the VSC somehow diminishing? Is it that my opinion is not as valid as someone else's? They never quite put their argument in terms that we are meant to understand.When I was Dep Chair of the FSF I represented over 800,000 football supporters but even then I didn't claim to represent all supporters, just someone who understands the arguments better.My point is that you say your a fans rep, but yet the more accurate description would be vsc rep. Which is fine now you've cleared up who you represent. Although I genuinely don't understand your prickly demeanour that comes across on here. Andy liney for instance was very accomadating and never argumentative despite having questions thrown at him left right and centre.
Quote from: Filo on May 11, 2023, 06:12:21 pmQuote from: TonySoprano on May 11, 2023, 05:51:29 pmQuote from: silent majority on May 11, 2023, 05:06:58 pmQuote from: TonySoprano on May 11, 2023, 05:00:14 pmQuote from: silent majority on May 11, 2023, 04:10:08 pmQuote from: ForsolongaRover on May 11, 2023, 03:37:35 pmQuote from: silent majority on May 11, 2023, 10:06:59 amQuote from: ForsolongaRover on May 11, 2023, 12:01:32 amThere was criticism of journalists giving Schofield an easy time and I put in a word for Leon Wobschall of the Yorkshire Post and the DFP’s Paul Goodwin who probably convinced the hierarchy at the club that those on here were not just a vocal minority.They deserve credit and thanks. Absolutely ridiculous!I can assure you that this never happened.I have noticed, Silent Majority, that you seem able to summarily (and often dismissively) put down so many of the theories advanced on here about the inner workings of the club’s management. In your role as a fans’ representative, it is equally surprising that you provide so little feedback. If you are involved enough to know what is not true, why do you not disclose the truth behind so many of the issues about which we speculate?With such intimate knowledge you must know more than has so far been published about what is happening in the appointment of the new manager and whether the HoFO role is being reassessed. I wonder what views on this you have expressed on behalf of the supporters?Oh but I do, its just that some of you fail to see the points I've made.But this could be a long discussion. I get those who don't believe what I say, I get those who state that I lie, I get those who claim I don't represent them et etc etc.And now you want me to tell you everything that's going on in the club when I don't even know who you are. But if you feel that you know what my responsibility as a 'fans rep' is then go ahead, lets hear it.Who do you represent ? The VSCSo you don't represent all fans, just a tiny fraction of the fan base? Do we have anyone who represents the whole fan base ? This is a very familiar argument, just different user nameIt's a strange argument as well though Filo. Is claiming to represent the VSC somehow diminishing? Is it that my opinion is not as valid as someone else's? They never quite put their argument in terms that we are meant to understand.When I was Dep Chair of the FSF I represented over 800,000 football supporters but even then I didn't claim to represent all supporters, just someone who understands the arguments better.
Quote from: TonySoprano on May 11, 2023, 05:51:29 pmQuote from: silent majority on May 11, 2023, 05:06:58 pmQuote from: TonySoprano on May 11, 2023, 05:00:14 pmQuote from: silent majority on May 11, 2023, 04:10:08 pmQuote from: ForsolongaRover on May 11, 2023, 03:37:35 pmQuote from: silent majority on May 11, 2023, 10:06:59 amQuote from: ForsolongaRover on May 11, 2023, 12:01:32 amThere was criticism of journalists giving Schofield an easy time and I put in a word for Leon Wobschall of the Yorkshire Post and the DFP’s Paul Goodwin who probably convinced the hierarchy at the club that those on here were not just a vocal minority.They deserve credit and thanks. Absolutely ridiculous!I can assure you that this never happened.I have noticed, Silent Majority, that you seem able to summarily (and often dismissively) put down so many of the theories advanced on here about the inner workings of the club’s management. In your role as a fans’ representative, it is equally surprising that you provide so little feedback. If you are involved enough to know what is not true, why do you not disclose the truth behind so many of the issues about which we speculate?With such intimate knowledge you must know more than has so far been published about what is happening in the appointment of the new manager and whether the HoFO role is being reassessed. I wonder what views on this you have expressed on behalf of the supporters?Oh but I do, its just that some of you fail to see the points I've made.But this could be a long discussion. I get those who don't believe what I say, I get those who state that I lie, I get those who claim I don't represent them et etc etc.And now you want me to tell you everything that's going on in the club when I don't even know who you are. But if you feel that you know what my responsibility as a 'fans rep' is then go ahead, lets hear it.Who do you represent ? The VSCSo you don't represent all fans, just a tiny fraction of the fan base? Do we have anyone who represents the whole fan base ? This is a very familiar argument, just different user name
Quote from: silent majority on May 11, 2023, 05:06:58 pmQuote from: TonySoprano on May 11, 2023, 05:00:14 pmQuote from: silent majority on May 11, 2023, 04:10:08 pmQuote from: ForsolongaRover on May 11, 2023, 03:37:35 pmQuote from: silent majority on May 11, 2023, 10:06:59 amQuote from: ForsolongaRover on May 11, 2023, 12:01:32 amThere was criticism of journalists giving Schofield an easy time and I put in a word for Leon Wobschall of the Yorkshire Post and the DFP’s Paul Goodwin who probably convinced the hierarchy at the club that those on here were not just a vocal minority.They deserve credit and thanks. Absolutely ridiculous!I can assure you that this never happened.I have noticed, Silent Majority, that you seem able to summarily (and often dismissively) put down so many of the theories advanced on here about the inner workings of the club’s management. In your role as a fans’ representative, it is equally surprising that you provide so little feedback. If you are involved enough to know what is not true, why do you not disclose the truth behind so many of the issues about which we speculate?With such intimate knowledge you must know more than has so far been published about what is happening in the appointment of the new manager and whether the HoFO role is being reassessed. I wonder what views on this you have expressed on behalf of the supporters?Oh but I do, its just that some of you fail to see the points I've made.But this could be a long discussion. I get those who don't believe what I say, I get those who state that I lie, I get those who claim I don't represent them et etc etc.And now you want me to tell you everything that's going on in the club when I don't even know who you are. But if you feel that you know what my responsibility as a 'fans rep' is then go ahead, lets hear it.Who do you represent ? The VSCSo you don't represent all fans, just a tiny fraction of the fan base? Do we have anyone who represents the whole fan base ?
Quote from: TonySoprano on May 11, 2023, 05:00:14 pmQuote from: silent majority on May 11, 2023, 04:10:08 pmQuote from: ForsolongaRover on May 11, 2023, 03:37:35 pmQuote from: silent majority on May 11, 2023, 10:06:59 amQuote from: ForsolongaRover on May 11, 2023, 12:01:32 amThere was criticism of journalists giving Schofield an easy time and I put in a word for Leon Wobschall of the Yorkshire Post and the DFP’s Paul Goodwin who probably convinced the hierarchy at the club that those on here were not just a vocal minority.They deserve credit and thanks. Absolutely ridiculous!I can assure you that this never happened.I have noticed, Silent Majority, that you seem able to summarily (and often dismissively) put down so many of the theories advanced on here about the inner workings of the club’s management. In your role as a fans’ representative, it is equally surprising that you provide so little feedback. If you are involved enough to know what is not true, why do you not disclose the truth behind so many of the issues about which we speculate?With such intimate knowledge you must know more than has so far been published about what is happening in the appointment of the new manager and whether the HoFO role is being reassessed. I wonder what views on this you have expressed on behalf of the supporters?Oh but I do, its just that some of you fail to see the points I've made.But this could be a long discussion. I get those who don't believe what I say, I get those who state that I lie, I get those who claim I don't represent them et etc etc.And now you want me to tell you everything that's going on in the club when I don't even know who you are. But if you feel that you know what my responsibility as a 'fans rep' is then go ahead, lets hear it.Who do you represent ? The VSC
Quote from: silent majority on May 11, 2023, 04:10:08 pmQuote from: ForsolongaRover on May 11, 2023, 03:37:35 pmQuote from: silent majority on May 11, 2023, 10:06:59 amQuote from: ForsolongaRover on May 11, 2023, 12:01:32 amThere was criticism of journalists giving Schofield an easy time and I put in a word for Leon Wobschall of the Yorkshire Post and the DFP’s Paul Goodwin who probably convinced the hierarchy at the club that those on here were not just a vocal minority.They deserve credit and thanks. Absolutely ridiculous!I can assure you that this never happened.I have noticed, Silent Majority, that you seem able to summarily (and often dismissively) put down so many of the theories advanced on here about the inner workings of the club’s management. In your role as a fans’ representative, it is equally surprising that you provide so little feedback. If you are involved enough to know what is not true, why do you not disclose the truth behind so many of the issues about which we speculate?With such intimate knowledge you must know more than has so far been published about what is happening in the appointment of the new manager and whether the HoFO role is being reassessed. I wonder what views on this you have expressed on behalf of the supporters?Oh but I do, its just that some of you fail to see the points I've made.But this could be a long discussion. I get those who don't believe what I say, I get those who state that I lie, I get those who claim I don't represent them et etc etc.And now you want me to tell you everything that's going on in the club when I don't even know who you are. But if you feel that you know what my responsibility as a 'fans rep' is then go ahead, lets hear it.Who do you represent ?
Quote from: ForsolongaRover on May 11, 2023, 03:37:35 pmQuote from: silent majority on May 11, 2023, 10:06:59 amQuote from: ForsolongaRover on May 11, 2023, 12:01:32 amThere was criticism of journalists giving Schofield an easy time and I put in a word for Leon Wobschall of the Yorkshire Post and the DFP’s Paul Goodwin who probably convinced the hierarchy at the club that those on here were not just a vocal minority.They deserve credit and thanks. Absolutely ridiculous!I can assure you that this never happened.I have noticed, Silent Majority, that you seem able to summarily (and often dismissively) put down so many of the theories advanced on here about the inner workings of the club’s management. In your role as a fans’ representative, it is equally surprising that you provide so little feedback. If you are involved enough to know what is not true, why do you not disclose the truth behind so many of the issues about which we speculate?With such intimate knowledge you must know more than has so far been published about what is happening in the appointment of the new manager and whether the HoFO role is being reassessed. I wonder what views on this you have expressed on behalf of the supporters?Oh but I do, its just that some of you fail to see the points I've made.But this could be a long discussion. I get those who don't believe what I say, I get those who state that I lie, I get those who claim I don't represent them et etc etc.And now you want me to tell you everything that's going on in the club when I don't even know who you are. But if you feel that you know what my responsibility as a 'fans rep' is then go ahead, lets hear it.
Quote from: TonySoprano on May 11, 2023, 06:55:26 pmQuote from: Not Now Kato on May 11, 2023, 06:50:20 pmQuote from: TonySoprano on May 11, 2023, 06:29:14 pmQuote from: silent majority on May 11, 2023, 06:18:59 pmQuote from: Filo on May 11, 2023, 06:12:21 pmQuote from: TonySoprano on May 11, 2023, 05:51:29 pmQuote from: silent majority on May 11, 2023, 05:06:58 pmQuote from: TonySoprano on May 11, 2023, 05:00:14 pmQuote from: silent majority on May 11, 2023, 04:10:08 pmQuote from: ForsolongaRover on May 11, 2023, 03:37:35 pmQuote from: silent majority on May 11, 2023, 10:06:59 amQuote from: ForsolongaRover on May 11, 2023, 12:01:32 amThere was criticism of journalists giving Schofield an easy time and I put in a word for Leon Wobschall of the Yorkshire Post and the DFP’s Paul Goodwin who probably convinced the hierarchy at the club that those on here were not just a vocal minority.They deserve credit and thanks. Absolutely ridiculous!I can assure you that this never happened.I have noticed, Silent Majority, that you seem able to summarily (and often dismissively) put down so many of the theories advanced on here about the inner workings of the club’s management. In your role as a fans’ representative, it is equally surprising that you provide so little feedback. If you are involved enough to know what is not true, why do you not disclose the truth behind so many of the issues about which we speculate?With such intimate knowledge you must know more than has so far been published about what is happening in the appointment of the new manager and whether the HoFO role is being reassessed. I wonder what views on this you have expressed on behalf of the supporters?Oh but I do, its just that some of you fail to see the points I've made.But this could be a long discussion. I get those who don't believe what I say, I get those who state that I lie, I get those who claim I don't represent them et etc etc.And now you want me to tell you everything that's going on in the club when I don't even know who you are. But if you feel that you know what my responsibility as a 'fans rep' is then go ahead, lets hear it.Who do you represent ? The VSCSo you don't represent all fans, just a tiny fraction of the fan base? Do we have anyone who represents the whole fan base ? This is a very familiar argument, just different user nameIt's a strange argument as well though Filo. Is claiming to represent the VSC somehow diminishing? Is it that my opinion is not as valid as someone else's? They never quite put their argument in terms that we are meant to understand.When I was Dep Chair of the FSF I represented over 800,000 football supporters but even then I didn't claim to represent all supporters, just someone who understands the arguments better.My point is that you say your a fans rep, but yet the more accurate description would be vsc rep. Which is fine now you've cleared up who you represent. Although I genuinely don't understand your prickly demeanour that comes across on here. Andy liney for instance was very accomadating and never argumentative despite having questions thrown at him left right and centre. Joined in late April this year, only 54 posts yet you seem to remember how Andy Liney posted? Hmmmm.Not sure why my only recent joining of this forum matters in regards to knowing how a previous poster posted. You don't need to be a member to be able to read the posts! Have you previously posted on this forum under a different user name?Honesty comes in many different forms.