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silent majority

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Re: Schofield sacked
« Reply #120 on May 11, 2023, 10:06:59 am by silent majority »
There was criticism of journalists giving Schofield an easy time and I put in a word for Leon Wobschall of the Yorkshire Post and the DFP’s Paul Goodwin who probably convinced the hierarchy at the club that those on here were not just a vocal minority.

They deserve credit and thanks. 

Absolutely ridiculous!

I can assure you that this never happened.



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Goole Rover

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Re: Schofield sacked
« Reply #121 on May 11, 2023, 12:10:10 pm by Goole Rover »
I'm simply thoroughly relieved this evening at this news

In a complete volte face I'm now actually looking forward to next season with optimism.

No more to add.
I look towards next season with concerns why because we still have Blunt who like Bates and Richardson before him will hold the club back. Do the honourable thing Blunt go, you never gave DS a chance.

Campsall rover

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Re: Schofield sacked
« Reply #122 on May 11, 2023, 01:39:41 pm by Campsall rover »
I'm simply thoroughly relieved this evening at this news

In a complete volte face I'm now actually looking forward to next season with optimism.

No more to add.
I look towards next season with concerns why because we still have Blunt who like Bates and Richardson before him will hold the club back. Do the honourable thing Blunt go, you never gave DS a chance.
He probably, no definitely had no chance of the top 3 but to finish 18th in this league was shocking.
So I have no sympathy for DS. He was his own worst enemy with his team set up tactical incompetence.

There is no reason whatsoever why he could not have got this team in the top 9 after 46 games. Yes we were short of the top 8 once the injuries hit.
The depth of the squad was not there I agree.

Blunt 100% needs to resign or TB to ask him very politely to step down. His time has run.
Fresh blood at the top table to re invigorate the club needed.

Goole Rover

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Re: Schofield sacked
« Reply #123 on May 11, 2023, 01:52:20 pm by Goole Rover »
A few day’s previous to the DS announcement we were told that he was to continue this time on a level playing field. Blunt has seen the opportunity to improve our poor season ticket sales by using DS as the sacrificial lamb. If Blunt hopes to further improve sales he should be the next one out. Failure comes from the top.

Donny Exile in York

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Re: Schofield sacked
« Reply #124 on May 11, 2023, 02:08:31 pm by Donny Exile in York »
I'm simply thoroughly relieved this evening at this news

In a complete volte face I'm now actually looking forward to next season with optimism.

No more to add.
I look towards next season with concerns why because we still have Blunt who like Bates and Richardson before him will hold the club back. Do the honourable thing Blunt go, you never gave DS a chance.

I'll second that. He is either incompetent or lazy or both. I reckon he treats the role part time hence a month to recruit novice managers as he winds up from his armchair. Time to go.

DRNaith

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Re: Schofield sacked
« Reply #125 on May 11, 2023, 02:17:02 pm by DRNaith »
People say the board aren't football men, this proves they are. Sacking a few days after the vote of confidence is textbook!

ForsolongaRover

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Re: Schofield sacked
« Reply #126 on May 11, 2023, 03:37:35 pm by ForsolongaRover »
There was criticism of journalists giving Schofield an easy time and I put in a word for Leon Wobschall of the Yorkshire Post and the DFP’s Paul Goodwin who probably convinced the hierarchy at the club that those on here were not just a vocal minority.

They deserve credit and thanks. 

Absolutely ridiculous!

I can assure you that this never happened.



I have noticed, Silent Majority, that you seem able to summarily (and often dismissively) put down so many of the theories advanced on here about the inner workings of the club’s management. In your role as a fans’ representative, it is equally surprising that you provide so little feedback. If you are involved enough to know what is not true, why do you not disclose the truth behind so many of the issues about which we speculate?

With such intimate knowledge you must know more than has so far been published about what is happening in the appointment of the new manager and whether the HoFO role is being reassessed. I wonder what views on this you have expressed on behalf of the supporters?

DearneValleyRover

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Re: Schofield sacked
« Reply #127 on May 11, 2023, 03:43:12 pm by DearneValleyRover »
There was criticism of journalists giving Schofield an easy time and I put in a word for Leon Wobschall of the Yorkshire Post and the DFP’s Paul Goodwin who probably convinced the hierarchy at the club that those on here were not just a vocal minority.

They deserve credit and thanks. 

Absolutely ridiculous!

I can assure you that this never happened.



I have noticed, Silent Majority, that you seem able to summarily (and often dismissively) put down so many of the theories advanced on here about the inner workings of the club’s management. In your role as a fans’ representative, it is equally surprising that you provide so little feedback. If you are involved enough to know what is not true, why do you not disclose the truth behind so many of the issues about which we speculate?

With such intimate knowledge you must know more than has so far been published about what is happening in the appointment of the new manager and whether the HoFO role is being reassessed. I wonder what views on this you have expressed on behalf of the supporters?


Plenty but he’s not always at liberty to give information out

silent majority

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Re: Schofield sacked
« Reply #128 on May 11, 2023, 04:10:08 pm by silent majority »
There was criticism of journalists giving Schofield an easy time and I put in a word for Leon Wobschall of the Yorkshire Post and the DFP’s Paul Goodwin who probably convinced the hierarchy at the club that those on here were not just a vocal minority.

They deserve credit and thanks. 

Absolutely ridiculous!

I can assure you that this never happened.



I have noticed, Silent Majority, that you seem able to summarily (and often dismissively) put down so many of the theories advanced on here about the inner workings of the club’s management. In your role as a fans’ representative, it is equally surprising that you provide so little feedback. If you are involved enough to know what is not true, why do you not disclose the truth behind so many of the issues about which we speculate?

With such intimate knowledge you must know more than has so far been published about what is happening in the appointment of the new manager and whether the HoFO role is being reassessed. I wonder what views on this you have expressed on behalf of the supporters?


Oh but I do, its just that some of you fail to see the points I've made.

But this could be a long discussion. I get those who don't believe what I say, I get those who state that I lie, I get those who claim I don't represent them et etc etc.

And now you want me to tell you everything that's going on in the club when I don't even know who you are.

But if you feel that you know what my responsibility as a 'fans rep' is then go ahead, lets hear it.

pib

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Re: Schofield sacked
« Reply #129 on May 11, 2023, 04:48:04 pm by pib »
 :chair:

TonySoprano

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Re: Schofield sacked
« Reply #130 on May 11, 2023, 05:00:14 pm by TonySoprano »
There was criticism of journalists giving Schofield an easy time and I put in a word for Leon Wobschall of the Yorkshire Post and the DFP’s Paul Goodwin who probably convinced the hierarchy at the club that those on here were not just a vocal minority.

They deserve credit and thanks. 

Absolutely ridiculous!

I can assure you that this never happened.



I have noticed, Silent Majority, that you seem able to summarily (and often dismissively) put down so many of the theories advanced on here about the inner workings of the club’s management. In your role as a fans’ representative, it is equally surprising that you provide so little feedback. If you are involved enough to know what is not true, why do you not disclose the truth behind so many of the issues about which we speculate?

With such intimate knowledge you must know more than has so far been published about what is happening in the appointment of the new manager and whether the HoFO role is being reassessed. I wonder what views on this you have expressed on behalf of the supporters?


Oh but I do, its just that some of you fail to see the points I've made.

But this could be a long discussion. I get those who don't believe what I say, I get those who state that I lie, I get those who claim I don't represent them et etc etc.

And now you want me to tell you everything that's going on in the club when I don't even know who you are.

But if you feel that you know what my responsibility as a 'fans rep' is then go ahead, lets hear it.
Who do you represent ?

silent majority

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Re: Schofield sacked
« Reply #131 on May 11, 2023, 05:06:58 pm by silent majority »
There was criticism of journalists giving Schofield an easy time and I put in a word for Leon Wobschall of the Yorkshire Post and the DFP’s Paul Goodwin who probably convinced the hierarchy at the club that those on here were not just a vocal minority.

They deserve credit and thanks. 

Absolutely ridiculous!

I can assure you that this never happened.



I have noticed, Silent Majority, that you seem able to summarily (and often dismissively) put down so many of the theories advanced on here about the inner workings of the club’s management. In your role as a fans’ representative, it is equally surprising that you provide so little feedback. If you are involved enough to know what is not true, why do you not disclose the truth behind so many of the issues about which we speculate?

With such intimate knowledge you must know more than has so far been published about what is happening in the appointment of the new manager and whether the HoFO role is being reassessed. I wonder what views on this you have expressed on behalf of the supporters?


Oh but I do, its just that some of you fail to see the points I've made.

But this could be a long discussion. I get those who don't believe what I say, I get those who state that I lie, I get those who claim I don't represent them et etc etc.

And now you want me to tell you everything that's going on in the club when I don't even know who you are.

But if you feel that you know what my responsibility as a 'fans rep' is then go ahead, lets hear it.
Who do you represent ?

The VSC

ForsolongaRover

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Re: Schofield sacked
« Reply #132 on May 11, 2023, 05:44:28 pm by ForsolongaRover »
There was criticism of journalists giving Schofield an easy time and I put in a word for Leon Wobschall of the Yorkshire Post and the DFP’s Paul Goodwin who probably convinced the hierarchy at the club that those on here were not just a vocal minority.

They deserve credit and thanks. 

Absolutely ridiculous!

I can assure you that this never happened.



I have noticed, Silent Majority, that you seem able to summarily (and often dismissively) put down so many of the theories advanced on here about the inner workings of the club’s management. In your role as a fans’ representative, it is equally surprising that you provide so little feedback. If you are involved enough to know what is not true, why do you not disclose the truth behind so many of the issues about which we speculate?

With such intimate knowledge you must know more than has so far been published about what is happening in the appointment of the new manager and whether the HoFO role is being reassessed. I wonder what views on this you have expressed on behalf of the supporters?


Oh but I do, its just that some of you fail to see the points I've made.

But this could be a long discussion. I get those who don't believe what I say, I get those who state that I lie, I get those who claim I don't represent them et etc etc.

And now you want me to tell you everything that's going on in the club when I don't even know who you are.

But if you feel that you know what my responsibility as a 'fans rep' is then go ahead, lets hear it.
Who do you represent ?

The VSC

You misunderstand SM. I am sure that you do not intend to be evasive or secretive, but I get the impression that you feel I am being hostile when all I am wanting is for a more accommodating style. It is surely a given that we are all interested in what goes on at the club because we are hopeful of its success. You obviously have a deep understanding of the inner workings and if you can share that with us a little more, we will all move forward in greater harmony.


TonySoprano

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Re: Schofield sacked
« Reply #133 on May 11, 2023, 05:51:29 pm by TonySoprano »
There was criticism of journalists giving Schofield an easy time and I put in a word for Leon Wobschall of the Yorkshire Post and the DFP’s Paul Goodwin who probably convinced the hierarchy at the club that those on here were not just a vocal minority.

They deserve credit and thanks. 

Absolutely ridiculous!

I can assure you that this never happened.



I have noticed, Silent Majority, that you seem able to summarily (and often dismissively) put down so many of the theories advanced on here about the inner workings of the club’s management. In your role as a fans’ representative, it is equally surprising that you provide so little feedback. If you are involved enough to know what is not true, why do you not disclose the truth behind so many of the issues about which we speculate?

With such intimate knowledge you must know more than has so far been published about what is happening in the appointment of the new manager and whether the HoFO role is being reassessed. I wonder what views on this you have expressed on behalf of the supporters?


Oh but I do, its just that some of you fail to see the points I've made.

But this could be a long discussion. I get those who don't believe what I say, I get those who state that I lie, I get those who claim I don't represent them et etc etc.

And now you want me to tell you everything that's going on in the club when I don't even know who you are.

But if you feel that you know what my responsibility as a 'fans rep' is then go ahead, lets hear it.
Who do you represent ?

The VSC
So you don't represent all fans, just a tiny fraction of the fan base?

Do we have anyone who represents the whole fan base ?

silent majority

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Re: Schofield sacked
« Reply #134 on May 11, 2023, 06:05:54 pm by silent majority »
There was criticism of journalists giving Schofield an easy time and I put in a word for Leon Wobschall of the Yorkshire Post and the DFP’s Paul Goodwin who probably convinced the hierarchy at the club that those on here were not just a vocal minority.

They deserve credit and thanks. 

Absolutely ridiculous!

I can assure you that this never happened.



I have noticed, Silent Majority, that you seem able to summarily (and often dismissively) put down so many of the theories advanced on here about the inner workings of the club’s management. In your role as a fans’ representative, it is equally surprising that you provide so little feedback. If you are involved enough to know what is not true, why do you not disclose the truth behind so many of the issues about which we speculate?

With such intimate knowledge you must know more than has so far been published about what is happening in the appointment of the new manager and whether the HoFO role is being reassessed. I wonder what views on this you have expressed on behalf of the supporters?


Oh but I do, its just that some of you fail to see the points I've made.

But this could be a long discussion. I get those who don't believe what I say, I get those who state that I lie, I get those who claim I don't represent them et etc etc.

And now you want me to tell you everything that's going on in the club when I don't even know who you are.

But if you feel that you know what my responsibility as a 'fans rep' is then go ahead, lets hear it.
Who do you represent ?

The VSC
So you don't represent all fans, just a tiny fraction of the fan base?

Do we have anyone who represents the whole fan base ?

I don't claim to represent the whole fan base, and I don't know anybody that could claim to do so.


Filo

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Re: Schofield sacked
« Reply #135 on May 11, 2023, 06:12:21 pm by Filo »
There was criticism of journalists giving Schofield an easy time and I put in a word for Leon Wobschall of the Yorkshire Post and the DFP’s Paul Goodwin who probably convinced the hierarchy at the club that those on here were not just a vocal minority.

They deserve credit and thanks. 

Absolutely ridiculous!

I can assure you that this never happened.



I have noticed, Silent Majority, that you seem able to summarily (and often dismissively) put down so many of the theories advanced on here about the inner workings of the club’s management. In your role as a fans’ representative, it is equally surprising that you provide so little feedback. If you are involved enough to know what is not true, why do you not disclose the truth behind so many of the issues about which we speculate?

With such intimate knowledge you must know more than has so far been published about what is happening in the appointment of the new manager and whether the HoFO role is being reassessed. I wonder what views on this you have expressed on behalf of the supporters?


Oh but I do, its just that some of you fail to see the points I've made.

But this could be a long discussion. I get those who don't believe what I say, I get those who state that I lie, I get those who claim I don't represent them et etc etc.

And now you want me to tell you everything that's going on in the club when I don't even know who you are.

But if you feel that you know what my responsibility as a 'fans rep' is then go ahead, lets hear it.
Who do you represent ?

The VSC
So you don't represent all fans, just a tiny fraction of the fan base?

Do we have anyone who represents the whole fan base ?

This is a very familiar argument, just different user name

silent majority

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Re: Schofield sacked
« Reply #136 on May 11, 2023, 06:13:06 pm by silent majority »
There was criticism of journalists giving Schofield an easy time and I put in a word for Leon Wobschall of the Yorkshire Post and the DFP’s Paul Goodwin who probably convinced the hierarchy at the club that those on here were not just a vocal minority.

They deserve credit and thanks. 

Absolutely ridiculous!

I can assure you that this never happened.



I have noticed, Silent Majority, that you seem able to summarily (and often dismissively) put down so many of the theories advanced on here about the inner workings of the club’s management. In your role as a fans’ representative, it is equally surprising that you provide so little feedback. If you are involved enough to know what is not true, why do you not disclose the truth behind so many of the issues about which we speculate?

With such intimate knowledge you must know more than has so far been published about what is happening in the appointment of the new manager and whether the HoFO role is being reassessed. I wonder what views on this you have expressed on behalf of the supporters?


Oh but I do, its just that some of you fail to see the points I've made.

But this could be a long discussion. I get those who don't believe what I say, I get those who state that I lie, I get those who claim I don't represent them et etc etc.

And now you want me to tell you everything that's going on in the club when I don't even know who you are.

But if you feel that you know what my responsibility as a 'fans rep' is then go ahead, lets hear it.
Who do you represent ?

The VSC

You misunderstand SM. I am sure that you do not intend to be evasive or secretive, but I get the impression that you feel I am being hostile when all I am wanting is for a more accommodating style. It is surely a given that we are all interested in what goes on at the club because we are hopeful of its success. You obviously have a deep understanding of the inner workings and if you can share that with us a little more, we will all move forward in greater harmony.



Its you that misunderstands. I do share lots of what I know about the club, but its not universally accepted (just browse the forum, you'll see where people accuse me of various nefarious activities) and because its not accepted then I'm careful about how I put this information out there. Not for the first time I'm telling someone to read between the lines, its not necessarily a put down, but I will contradict posters who quite deliberately post information that is designed to stir, or is just plainly incorrect.

If that's being dismissive then so be it.

silent majority

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Re: Schofield sacked
« Reply #137 on May 11, 2023, 06:18:59 pm by silent majority »
There was criticism of journalists giving Schofield an easy time and I put in a word for Leon Wobschall of the Yorkshire Post and the DFP’s Paul Goodwin who probably convinced the hierarchy at the club that those on here were not just a vocal minority.

They deserve credit and thanks. 

Absolutely ridiculous!

I can assure you that this never happened.



I have noticed, Silent Majority, that you seem able to summarily (and often dismissively) put down so many of the theories advanced on here about the inner workings of the club’s management. In your role as a fans’ representative, it is equally surprising that you provide so little feedback. If you are involved enough to know what is not true, why do you not disclose the truth behind so many of the issues about which we speculate?

With such intimate knowledge you must know more than has so far been published about what is happening in the appointment of the new manager and whether the HoFO role is being reassessed. I wonder what views on this you have expressed on behalf of the supporters?


Oh but I do, its just that some of you fail to see the points I've made.

But this could be a long discussion. I get those who don't believe what I say, I get those who state that I lie, I get those who claim I don't represent them et etc etc.

And now you want me to tell you everything that's going on in the club when I don't even know who you are.

But if you feel that you know what my responsibility as a 'fans rep' is then go ahead, lets hear it.
Who do you represent ?

The VSC
So you don't represent all fans, just a tiny fraction of the fan base?

Do we have anyone who represents the whole fan base ?

This is a very familiar argument, just different user name

It's a strange argument as well though Filo. Is claiming to represent the VSC somehow diminishing? Is it that my opinion is not as valid as someone else's? They never quite put their argument in terms that we are meant to understand.

When I was Dep Chair of the FSF I represented over 800,000 football supporters but even then I didn't claim to represent all supporters, just someone who understands the arguments better.

TonySoprano

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Re: Schofield sacked
« Reply #138 on May 11, 2023, 06:29:14 pm by TonySoprano »
There was criticism of journalists giving Schofield an easy time and I put in a word for Leon Wobschall of the Yorkshire Post and the DFP’s Paul Goodwin who probably convinced the hierarchy at the club that those on here were not just a vocal minority.

They deserve credit and thanks. 

Absolutely ridiculous!

I can assure you that this never happened.



I have noticed, Silent Majority, that you seem able to summarily (and often dismissively) put down so many of the theories advanced on here about the inner workings of the club’s management. In your role as a fans’ representative, it is equally surprising that you provide so little feedback. If you are involved enough to know what is not true, why do you not disclose the truth behind so many of the issues about which we speculate?

With such intimate knowledge you must know more than has so far been published about what is happening in the appointment of the new manager and whether the HoFO role is being reassessed. I wonder what views on this you have expressed on behalf of the supporters?


Oh but I do, its just that some of you fail to see the points I've made.

But this could be a long discussion. I get those who don't believe what I say, I get those who state that I lie, I get those who claim I don't represent them et etc etc.

And now you want me to tell you everything that's going on in the club when I don't even know who you are.

But if you feel that you know what my responsibility as a 'fans rep' is then go ahead, lets hear it.
Who do you represent ?

The VSC
So you don't represent all fans, just a tiny fraction of the fan base?

Do we have anyone who represents the whole fan base ?

This is a very familiar argument, just different user name

It's a strange argument as well though Filo. Is claiming to represent the VSC somehow diminishing? Is it that my opinion is not as valid as someone else's? They never quite put their argument in terms that we are meant to understand.

When I was Dep Chair of the FSF I represented over 800,000 football supporters but even then I didn't claim to represent all supporters, just someone who understands the arguments better.

My point is that you say your a fans rep, but yet the more accurate description would be vsc rep.

Which is fine now you've cleared up who you represent.

Although I genuinely don't understand your prickly demeanour that comes across on here.
Andy liney for instance was very accomadating and never argumentative despite having questions thrown at him left right and centre.

Rovers Return

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Re: Schofield sacked
« Reply #139 on May 11, 2023, 06:30:17 pm by Rovers Return »
There was criticism of journalists giving Schofield an easy time and I put in a word for Leon Wobschall of the Yorkshire Post and the DFP’s Paul Goodwin who probably convinced the hierarchy at the club that those on here were not just a vocal minority.

They deserve credit and thanks. 

Absolutely ridiculous!

I can assure you that this never happened.



I have noticed, Silent Majority, that you seem able to summarily (and often dismissively) put down so many of the theories advanced on here about the inner workings of the club’s management. In your role as a fans’ representative, it is equally surprising that you provide so little feedback. If you are involved enough to know what is not true, why do you not disclose the truth behind so many of the issues about which we speculate?

With such intimate knowledge you must know more than has so far been published about what is happening in the appointment of the new manager and whether the HoFO role is being reassessed. I wonder what views on this you have expressed on behalf of the supporters?


I would imagine he is given fairly sensitive information prior to press release and is put in a position of trust not to go on forums telling all and sundry the inner workings and sensitive plans before they are implemented. If he did they’d never trust him with any information. However, with this information he can ‘summarily and dismissively’ stop any silly suggestions and daft rumours.

Not Now Kato

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Re: Schofield sacked
« Reply #140 on May 11, 2023, 06:50:20 pm by Not Now Kato »
There was criticism of journalists giving Schofield an easy time and I put in a word for Leon Wobschall of the Yorkshire Post and the DFP’s Paul Goodwin who probably convinced the hierarchy at the club that those on here were not just a vocal minority.

They deserve credit and thanks. 

Absolutely ridiculous!

I can assure you that this never happened.



I have noticed, Silent Majority, that you seem able to summarily (and often dismissively) put down so many of the theories advanced on here about the inner workings of the club’s management. In your role as a fans’ representative, it is equally surprising that you provide so little feedback. If you are involved enough to know what is not true, why do you not disclose the truth behind so many of the issues about which we speculate?

With such intimate knowledge you must know more than has so far been published about what is happening in the appointment of the new manager and whether the HoFO role is being reassessed. I wonder what views on this you have expressed on behalf of the supporters?


Oh but I do, its just that some of you fail to see the points I've made.

But this could be a long discussion. I get those who don't believe what I say, I get those who state that I lie, I get those who claim I don't represent them et etc etc.

And now you want me to tell you everything that's going on in the club when I don't even know who you are.

But if you feel that you know what my responsibility as a 'fans rep' is then go ahead, lets hear it.
Who do you represent ?

The VSC
So you don't represent all fans, just a tiny fraction of the fan base?

Do we have anyone who represents the whole fan base ?

This is a very familiar argument, just different user name

It's a strange argument as well though Filo. Is claiming to represent the VSC somehow diminishing? Is it that my opinion is not as valid as someone else's? They never quite put their argument in terms that we are meant to understand.

When I was Dep Chair of the FSF I represented over 800,000 football supporters but even then I didn't claim to represent all supporters, just someone who understands the arguments better.

My point is that you say your a fans rep, but yet the more accurate description would be vsc rep.

Which is fine now you've cleared up who you represent.

Although I genuinely don't understand your prickly demeanour that comes across on here.
Andy liney for instance was very accomadating and never argumentative despite having questions thrown at him left right and centre.

Joined in late April this year, only 54 posts yet you seem to remember how Andy Liney posted?
 
Hmmmm.

TonySoprano

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Re: Schofield sacked
« Reply #141 on May 11, 2023, 06:55:26 pm by TonySoprano »
There was criticism of journalists giving Schofield an easy time and I put in a word for Leon Wobschall of the Yorkshire Post and the DFP’s Paul Goodwin who probably convinced the hierarchy at the club that those on here were not just a vocal minority.

They deserve credit and thanks. 

Absolutely ridiculous!

I can assure you that this never happened.



I have noticed, Silent Majority, that you seem able to summarily (and often dismissively) put down so many of the theories advanced on here about the inner workings of the club’s management. In your role as a fans’ representative, it is equally surprising that you provide so little feedback. If you are involved enough to know what is not true, why do you not disclose the truth behind so many of the issues about which we speculate?

With such intimate knowledge you must know more than has so far been published about what is happening in the appointment of the new manager and whether the HoFO role is being reassessed. I wonder what views on this you have expressed on behalf of the supporters?


Oh but I do, its just that some of you fail to see the points I've made.

But this could be a long discussion. I get those who don't believe what I say, I get those who state that I lie, I get those who claim I don't represent them et etc etc.

And now you want me to tell you everything that's going on in the club when I don't even know who you are.

But if you feel that you know what my responsibility as a 'fans rep' is then go ahead, lets hear it.
Who do you represent ?

The VSC
So you don't represent all fans, just a tiny fraction of the fan base?

Do we have anyone who represents the whole fan base ?

This is a very familiar argument, just different user name

It's a strange argument as well though Filo. Is claiming to represent the VSC somehow diminishing? Is it that my opinion is not as valid as someone else's? They never quite put their argument in terms that we are meant to understand.

When I was Dep Chair of the FSF I represented over 800,000 football supporters but even then I didn't claim to represent all supporters, just someone who understands the arguments better.

My point is that you say your a fans rep, but yet the more accurate description would be vsc rep.

Which is fine now you've cleared up who you represent.

Although I genuinely don't understand your prickly demeanour that comes across on here.
Andy liney for instance was very accomadating and never argumentative despite having questions thrown at him left right and centre.

Joined in late April this year, only 54 posts yet you seem to remember how Andy Liney posted?
 
Hmmmm.

Not sure why my only recent joining of this forum matters in regards to knowing how a previous poster posted.

You don't need to be a member to be able to read the posts!

DonnyBazR0ver

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Re: Schofield sacked
« Reply #142 on May 11, 2023, 07:00:12 pm by DonnyBazR0ver »
There was criticism of journalists giving Schofield an easy time and I put in a word for Leon Wobschall of the Yorkshire Post and the DFP’s Paul Goodwin who probably convinced the hierarchy at the club that those on here were not just a vocal minority.

They deserve credit and thanks. 

Absolutely ridiculous!

I can assure you that this never happened.



I have noticed, Silent Majority, that you seem able to summarily (and often dismissively) put down so many of the theories advanced on here about the inner workings of the club’s management. In your role as a fans’ representative, it is equally surprising that you provide so little feedback. If you are involved enough to know what is not true, why do you not disclose the truth behind so many of the issues about which we speculate?

With such intimate knowledge you must know more than has so far been published about what is happening in the appointment of the new manager and whether the HoFO role is being reassessed. I wonder what views on this you have expressed on behalf of the supporters?


Oh but I do, its just that some of you fail to see the points I've made.

But this could be a long discussion. I get those who don't believe what I say, I get those who state that I lie, I get those who claim I don't represent them et etc etc.

And now you want me to tell you everything that's going on in the club when I don't even know who you are.

But if you feel that you know what my responsibility as a 'fans rep' is then go ahead, lets hear it.
Who do you represent ?

The VSC
So you don't represent all fans, just a tiny fraction of the fan base?

Do we have anyone who represents the whole fan base ?

This is a very familiar argument, just different user name

It's a strange argument as well though Filo. Is claiming to represent the VSC somehow diminishing? Is it that my opinion is not as valid as someone else's? They never quite put their argument in terms that we are meant to understand.

When I was Dep Chair of the FSF I represented over 800,000 football supporters but even then I didn't claim to represent all supporters, just someone who understands the arguments better.

My point is that you say your a fans rep, but yet the more accurate description would be vsc rep.

Which is fine now you've cleared up who you represent.

Although I genuinely don't understand your prickly demeanour that comes across on here.
Andy liney for instance was very accomadating and never argumentative despite having questions thrown at him left right and centre.

Joined in late April this year, only 54 posts yet you seem to remember how Andy Liney posted?
 
Hmmmm.

Not sure why my only recent joining of this forum matters in regards to knowing how a previous poster posted.

You don't need to be a member to be able to read the posts!

Please stick to the topic. If you have any direct questions for S_M, the you can always PM him.

Tommy A

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Re: Schofield sacked
« Reply #143 on May 11, 2023, 07:16:11 pm by Tommy A »
I wonder if the retainer list is already sorted.
In theory this should be down to Copps, so Schofield leaving shouldn't affect it.

Well if I were an experienced manager coming into the job I wouldn't be taking instructions from Coppinger (no league games as a manager) on which players I need!

Well if you want the job you will have to be prepared to work with Copps. As he will be employing/recommending you. End of.

Having a good working relationship is different from allowing him to recruit your players for you. "End of"

Tommy A

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Re: Schofield sacked
« Reply #144 on May 11, 2023, 07:20:06 pm by Tommy A »
I wonder if the retainer list is already sorted.
In theory this should be down to Copps, so Schofield leaving shouldn't affect it.

Well if I were an experienced manager coming into the job I wouldn't be taking instructions from Coppinger (no league games as a manager) on which players I need!

I'm sure Klopp thought that about Michael Edwards.

Not sure what relevance that has.

I'm responding to the suggestion that Copps will be decided who is retained before the new manager arrives.

No manager in any business will allow their staff to be chosen for them given that the buck stops with the manager

wilts rover

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Re: Schofield sacked
« Reply #145 on May 11, 2023, 07:28:10 pm by wilts rover »
There was criticism of journalists giving Schofield an easy time and I put in a word for Leon Wobschall of the Yorkshire Post and the DFP’s Paul Goodwin who probably convinced the hierarchy at the club that those on here were not just a vocal minority.

They deserve credit and thanks. 

Absolutely ridiculous!

I can assure you that this never happened.



I have noticed, Silent Majority, that you seem able to summarily (and often dismissively) put down so many of the theories advanced on here about the inner workings of the club’s management. In your role as a fans’ representative, it is equally surprising that you provide so little feedback. If you are involved enough to know what is not true, why do you not disclose the truth behind so many of the issues about which we speculate?

With such intimate knowledge you must know more than has so far been published about what is happening in the appointment of the new manager and whether the HoFO role is being reassessed. I wonder what views on this you have expressed on behalf of the supporters?


Oh but I do, its just that some of you fail to see the points I've made.

But this could be a long discussion. I get those who don't believe what I say, I get those who state that I lie, I get those who claim I don't represent them et etc etc.

And now you want me to tell you everything that's going on in the club when I don't even know who you are.

But if you feel that you know what my responsibility as a 'fans rep' is then go ahead, lets hear it.
Who do you represent ?

The VSC
So you don't represent all fans, just a tiny fraction of the fan base?

Do we have anyone who represents the whole fan base ?

This is a very familiar argument, just different user name

It's a strange argument as well though Filo. Is claiming to represent the VSC somehow diminishing? Is it that my opinion is not as valid as someone else's? They never quite put their argument in terms that we are meant to understand.

When I was Dep Chair of the FSF I represented over 800,000 football supporters but even then I didn't claim to represent all supporters, just someone who understands the arguments better.

My point is that you say your a fans rep, but yet the more accurate description would be vsc rep.

Which is fine now you've cleared up who you represent.

Although I genuinely don't understand your prickly demeanour that comes across on here.
Andy liney for instance was very accomadating and never argumentative despite having questions thrown at him left right and centre.

Joined in late April this year, only 54 posts yet you seem to remember how Andy Liney posted?
 
Hmmmm.

Not sure why my only recent joining of this forum matters in regards to knowing how a previous poster posted.

You don't need to be a member to be able to read the posts!

Have you previously posted on this forum under a different user name?

Honesty comes in many different forms.

DonnyOsmond

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Re: Schofield sacked
« Reply #146 on May 11, 2023, 07:32:06 pm by DonnyOsmond »
I wonder if the retainer list is already sorted.
In theory this should be down to Copps, so Schofield leaving shouldn't affect it.

Well if I were an experienced manager coming into the job I wouldn't be taking instructions from Coppinger (no league games as a manager) on which players I need!

I'm sure Klopp thought that about Michael Edwards.

Not sure what relevance that has.

I'm responding to the suggestion that Copps will be decided who is retained before the new manager arrives.

No manager in any business will allow their staff to be chosen for them given that the buck stops with the manager

Your suggestion that only people who have managed league games have a relevant opinion.

Bentley Bullet

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Re: Schofield sacked
« Reply #147 on May 11, 2023, 07:34:57 pm by Bentley Bullet »
There was criticism of journalists giving Schofield an easy time and I put in a word for Leon Wobschall of the Yorkshire Post and the DFP’s Paul Goodwin who probably convinced the hierarchy at the club that those on here were not just a vocal minority.

They deserve credit and thanks. 

Absolutely ridiculous!

I can assure you that this never happened.



I have noticed, Silent Majority, that you seem able to summarily (and often dismissively) put down so many of the theories advanced on here about the inner workings of the club’s management. In your role as a fans’ representative, it is equally surprising that you provide so little feedback. If you are involved enough to know what is not true, why do you not disclose the truth behind so many of the issues about which we speculate?

With such intimate knowledge you must know more than has so far been published about what is happening in the appointment of the new manager and whether the HoFO role is being reassessed. I wonder what views on this you have expressed on behalf of the supporters?


Oh but I do, its just that some of you fail to see the points I've made.

But this could be a long discussion. I get those who don't believe what I say, I get those who state that I lie, I get those who claim I don't represent them et etc etc.

And now you want me to tell you everything that's going on in the club when I don't even know who you are.

But if you feel that you know what my responsibility as a 'fans rep' is then go ahead, lets hear it.
Who do you represent ?

The VSC
So you don't represent all fans, just a tiny fraction of the fan base?

Do we have anyone who represents the whole fan base ?

This is a very familiar argument, just different user name

It's a strange argument as well though Filo. Is claiming to represent the VSC somehow diminishing? Is it that my opinion is not as valid as someone else's? They never quite put their argument in terms that we are meant to understand.

When I was Dep Chair of the FSF I represented over 800,000 football supporters but even then I didn't claim to represent all supporters, just someone who understands the arguments better.

My point is that you say your a fans rep, but yet the more accurate description would be vsc rep.

Which is fine now you've cleared up who you represent.

Although I genuinely don't understand your prickly demeanour that comes across on here.
Andy liney for instance was very accomadating and never argumentative despite having questions thrown at him left right and centre.

Joined in late April this year, only 54 posts yet you seem to remember how Andy Liney posted?
 
Hmmmm.

Not sure why my only recent joining of this forum matters in regards to knowing how a previous poster posted.

You don't need to be a member to be able to read the posts!

Have you previously posted on this forum under a different user name?

Honesty comes in many different forms.
I think he used to go under the name of Barry Tone.

TonySoprano

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Re: Schofield sacked
« Reply #148 on May 11, 2023, 07:41:57 pm by TonySoprano »
There was criticism of journalists giving Schofield an easy time and I put in a word for Leon Wobschall of the Yorkshire Post and the DFP’s Paul Goodwin who probably convinced the hierarchy at the club that those on here were not just a vocal minority.

They deserve credit and thanks. 

Absolutely ridiculous!

I can assure you that this never happened.



I have noticed, Silent Majority, that you seem able to summarily (and often dismissively) put down so many of the theories advanced on here about the inner workings of the club’s management. In your role as a fans’ representative, it is equally surprising that you provide so little feedback. If you are involved enough to know what is not true, why do you not disclose the truth behind so many of the issues about which we speculate?

With such intimate knowledge you must know more than has so far been published about what is happening in the appointment of the new manager and whether the HoFO role is being reassessed. I wonder what views on this you have expressed on behalf of the supporters?


Oh but I do, its just that some of you fail to see the points I've made.

But this could be a long discussion. I get those who don't believe what I say, I get those who state that I lie, I get those who claim I don't represent them et etc etc.

And now you want me to tell you everything that's going on in the club when I don't even know who you are.

But if you feel that you know what my responsibility as a 'fans rep' is then go ahead, lets hear it.
Who do you represent ?

The VSC
So you don't represent all fans, just a tiny fraction of the fan base?

Do we have anyone who represents the whole fan base ?

This is a very familiar argument, just different user name

It's a strange argument as well though Filo. Is claiming to represent the VSC somehow diminishing? Is it that my opinion is not as valid as someone else's? They never quite put their argument in terms that we are meant to understand.

When I was Dep Chair of the FSF I represented over 800,000 football supporters but even then I didn't claim to represent all supporters, just someone who understands the arguments better.

My point is that you say your a fans rep, but yet the more accurate description would be vsc rep.

Which is fine now you've cleared up who you represent.

Although I genuinely don't understand your prickly demeanour that comes across on here.
Andy liney for instance was very accomadating and never argumentative despite having questions thrown at him left right and centre.

Joined in late April this year, only 54 posts yet you seem to remember how Andy Liney posted?
 
Hmmmm.

Not sure why my only recent joining of this forum matters in regards to knowing how a previous poster posted.

You don't need to be a member to be able to read the posts!

Have you previously posted on this forum under a different user name?

Honesty comes in many different forms.
Completely irrelevant, but I was a member on the old forum, and yaurs

silent majority

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Re: Schofield sacked
« Reply #149 on May 11, 2023, 07:44:47 pm by silent majority »
There was criticism of journalists giving Schofield an easy time and I put in a word for Leon Wobschall of the Yorkshire Post and the DFP’s Paul Goodwin who probably convinced the hierarchy at the club that those on here were not just a vocal minority.

They deserve credit and thanks. 

Absolutely ridiculous!

I can assure you that this never happened.



I have noticed, Silent Majority, that you seem able to summarily (and often dismissively) put down so many of the theories advanced on here about the inner workings of the club’s management. In your role as a fans’ representative, it is equally surprising that you provide so little feedback. If you are involved enough to know what is not true, why do you not disclose the truth behind so many of the issues about which we speculate?

With such intimate knowledge you must know more than has so far been published about what is happening in the appointment of the new manager and whether the HoFO role is being reassessed. I wonder what views on this you have expressed on behalf of the supporters?


Oh but I do, its just that some of you fail to see the points I've made.

But this could be a long discussion. I get those who don't believe what I say, I get those who state that I lie, I get those who claim I don't represent them et etc etc.

And now you want me to tell you everything that's going on in the club when I don't even know who you are.

But if you feel that you know what my responsibility as a 'fans rep' is then go ahead, lets hear it.
Who do you represent ?

The VSC
So you don't represent all fans, just a tiny fraction of the fan base?

Do we have anyone who represents the whole fan base ?

This is a very familiar argument, just different user name

It's a strange argument as well though Filo. Is claiming to represent the VSC somehow diminishing? Is it that my opinion is not as valid as someone else's? They never quite put their argument in terms that we are meant to understand.

When I was Dep Chair of the FSF I represented over 800,000 football supporters but even then I didn't claim to represent all supporters, just someone who understands the arguments better.

My point is that you say your a fans rep, but yet the more accurate description would be vsc rep.

Which is fine now you've cleared up who you represent.

Although I genuinely don't understand your prickly demeanour that comes across on here.
Andy liney for instance was very accomadating and never argumentative despite having questions thrown at him left right and centre.

Ah, there's your first big mistake, I don't call myself anything, not least of which is 'fans rep'.

And I think I knew Andy far better than you do/did.

 

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