Keith Starmer , The Liar , Murdoch's Man And Candidate For MI5

[tyke1962]

Double Down News exposing the Labour leader for the despicable excuse of a man that he is .

https://youtu.be/mv7sZoQkkns?si=5fByGDTO6knZ5Exn

[Filo]

Double Down News exposing the Labour leader for the despicable excuse of a man that he is .

https://youtu.be/mv7sZoQkkns?si=5fByGDTO6knZ5Exn

Sunak or Starmer?

No detailed answer required, just one of those two names

[belton rover]

Double Down News exposing the Labour leader for the despicable excuse of a man that he is .

https://youtu.be/mv7sZoQkkns?si=5fByGDTO6knZ5Exn

Sunak or Starmer?

No detailed answer required, just one of those two names

"The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again, but already it was impossible to say which was which."

[drfchound]

Double Down News exposing the Labour leader for the despicable excuse of a man that he is .

https://youtu.be/mv7sZoQkkns?si=5fByGDTO6knZ5Exn

It’s as though Starmer forgets what he has previously said.

[Sprotyrover]

Double Down News exposing the Labour leader for the despicable excuse of a man that he is .

https://youtu.be/mv7sZoQkkns?si=5fByGDTO6knZ5Exn

It’s as though Starmer forgets what he has previously said.

He just loves to contradict himself,

[albie]

Zero credibility for Keith.

On the lying front, he is trying to outdo Johnson....what a pair of plonkers!

[danumdon]

What an utterly depressing future we are all in store for. To have had to put up with years of delusion and lies from multiple discredited Tory PM's we now have the pitiful prospect of having this complete waster giving us another dose of corrupt and creepy leadership under his "new" "new" Labour party, the one that eats its own and gets into bed with vile corrupt forces like Murdoch and his like.

The image of that grinning disgrace Blair was enough to give anyone sleepless nights!

Im just hoping the populace of GB have the foresight to give none of these utter failures any sort of individual mandate.

This country deserves much better.

[Bristol Red Rover]

It's obvious Starmer is next PM and so of course the real people with power in this erm... democra... (I can't bear to dirty that word in the context of all this) get their hooks into him. He has become a robot.

All PMs look different when they get into power, the reality and futility of their position takes over. This has happened to Starmer already.

[normal rules]

Same shit.
Just under a different name.

[ravenrover]

Labour may well be the next Government but will they have a working majority or is an alliance on the cards even though both Labour and Lib Dems are saying no to each other

[Bentley Bullet]

Vote Starmer because he's....... er..... honest, ....... er... genuine,...... er, has firm beliefs,...., er,....... is a true socialist,..... er, tells the truth,..... er.........., oh, f**k it........... he's Labour!

[Filo]

So no one is prepared to give an answer Sunak or Starmer

Just one word to type thats all

Lots of beating around the bush though, even an Animal Farm quote, but everyone evades the question, the OP, seems to have done a runner

[Bentley Bullet]

We may not agree with Sunak but he has genuine beliefs and is honest and true with the public regarding them.

Starmer, is absolutely not anything remotely like that but people will vote for him because he's, well, he's ................. Oh f**k it, he's Labour.

[SydneyRover]

Another question is of those ardent brexiteers (who still insist they are lefties) where did ones loyalties lie in 2019, sovereignty, freedom from Europe and embrace the looney who despises working people or sit on the fence with jeremy?

[RobTheRover]

We may not agree with Sunak but he has genuine beliefs and is honest and true with the public regarding them.

Starmer, is absolutely not anything remotely like that but people will vote for him because he's, well, he's ................. Oh f**k it, he's Labour.

Well, in a forum often littered with utter b*llocks, this wins.

[Bentley Bullet]

We may not agree with Sunak but he has genuine beliefs and is honest and true with the public regarding them.

Starmer, is absolutely not anything remotely like that but people will vote for him because he's, well, he's ................. Oh f**k it, he's Labour.

Well, in a forum often littered with utter b*llocks, this wins.

Now ain't that a surprise! You'd think that in a forum often littered with utter b*llocks it would be a refreshing change to hear the truth. Obviously, that only applies to those who know that the truth isn't always told by someone sporting a Red rosette.

[danumdon]

We've had some utter dogs leading this country recently but can anyone of a Labour persuasion with hand on heart really say that a government led by this individual is going to drain the swamp and make the difference, really?

[SydneyRover]

13+ and still there are those that would look for reasons to vote for them it would seem.

[danumdon]

13+ and still there are those that would look for reasons to vote for them it would seem.

I take it from your none answer you couldn't endorse Starmer as the man to make the difference then?

Lets just hope that others have to be involved, we can then spread the blame eh!

[SydneyRover]

Follow 13+ years and a sunami of broken promises, lies and absolutely dumb decisions I would vote for Screaming Lord Such over this bunch of carpetbaggers and cronies.

[BillyStubbsTears]

I generally do like Peter Oborne, but he's spiralling into a place where what he wants to be true trumps reality.

Two things from that video.

1) Putting up the Wilson era as some sort of paragon of balanced politics? Just...what? The right and left of the Labour party were in outright war throughout Wilson's time. They ripped the holes in the party that would lead to it falling apart in the early 80s. And Wilson was renown for having no idelogical guidelines, and being prepared to tack whichever way he needed to on a daily basis. If anything, Starmer is precisely the new Wilson, in that he sees the need above everything else to get elected. Everything else comes a distant second, because if you don't get elected, it doesn't matter how superb your policies are, you've failed the people who you claim to represent.

2) He then says Starmer appeals to only a narrow proportion of the country. What? Has he seen the polls? And has he stopped to consider how narrow the section of the population was that Corbyn appealed to?

[danumdon]

So nothing to say about a man who has absolutely no political ideology or any sort of firm conviction in anything and just swings wildly in the wind like a demented weather vane.

After all the blather we have had to endure from you about a government that is plainly not fit for purpose you are in effect endorsing something that could be just as bad if not worse?

[BillyStubbsTears]

DD.
I will guarantee you that the next Labour Government will not be worse than the shower of shit that we have had and still have.

Come back in 6 years and see.

Or, we could have another Sunak Govt that now wants to abolish Inheritance Tax, giving £7bn per year to 4% of the population.

Your call.

[Filo]

I know you you are all shy in revealing which option,so I’ll start you all off

STARMER

[danumdon]

How anyone could give a guarantee on anything to do with governments of any standing is by its very nature foolish.

Interesting to see you don't agree with family's keeping their hard earned and taxed wealth in the family.

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

I know you you are all shy in revealing which option,so I’ll start you all off

STARMER

Neither!

I don't think labour are offering as yet anything to excite it's very much "not the Tories".  But the Tories are just unvotable right now.

[BillyStubbsTears]

How anyone could give a guarantee on anything to do with governments of any standing is by its very nature foolish.

Interesting to see you don't agree with family's keeping their hard earned and taxed wealth in the family.

They CAN keep it. After paying inheritance tax. It's one of THE most progressive taxes you can have.

[BillyStubbsTears]

I know you you are all shy in revealing which option,so I’ll start you all off

STARMER

Neither!

I don't think labour are offering as yet anything to excite it's very much "not the Tories".  But the Tories are just unvotable right now.

Neither isn't an option.

One or other of those two will be PM next December. You don't get your ideal choice. You get the choice life gives you.

[belton rover]

I know you you are all shy in revealing which option,so I’ll start you all off

STARMER

Neither!

I don't think labour are offering as yet anything to excite it's very much "not the Tories".  But the Tories are just unvotable right now.

Neither isn't an option.

One or other of those two will be PM next December. You don't get your ideal choice. You get the choice life gives you.

Neither is an option if the question is who do I want to be PM.

Another important question along with Starmer or Sunak, is Labour or Conservative?

Unfortunately, my answers to these really simple questions, if I have to choose one from each,  are Sunak and Labour.

[danumdon]

How anyone could give a guarantee on anything to do with governments of any standing is by its very nature foolish.

Interesting to see you don't agree with family's keeping their hard earned and taxed wealth in the family.

They CAN keep it. After paying inheritance tax. It's one of THE most progressive taxes you can have.

I don't see anything "progressive" about relatives paying a 40% tax on wealth that you have already paid tax on(probably at the higher rate) and after a lifetime of paying taxes(probably at a higher rate) into the state's purse.

Also why charge a rate that is far higher than most?

Seems like personal responsibility gets trumped by spending others people hard earned, i wonder what types would buy into this ?