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At least we have more choice here than Russia. However bad the choices are.
Quote from: idler on May 09, 2024, 08:58:04 pmAt least we have more choice here than Russia. However bad the choices are.Glad that pacifies your soul. Something's working eh?
Quote from: idler on May 09, 2024, 08:58:04 pmAt least we have more choice here than Russia. However bad the choices are. if we come out the ECHR it may become reality
"all 6 or 7 million union members should mobilise and vote against Labour which would cause some serious damage"And return a Tory government.
Quote from: i_ateallthepies on May 09, 2024, 07:30:26 pm"all 6 or 7 million union members should mobilise and vote against Labour which would cause some serious damage"And return a Tory government.Can't beat The Left can you?Can't have exactly what I want? Then let's have the Tories in power for the next generation.I used to know someone in the SWP who bragged of voting for Thatcher and agitating on the shop floor in the Winter of Discontent to humiliate the Labour Govt. His argument was that Labour made things better for the workers, and what was needed was for someone to make things harder for workers. Because if that didn't happen, the workers would never rise up and destroy Capitalism.Silly f**king Kitson.
"all 6 or 7 million union members should mobilise and vote against Labour which would cause some serious damage"And return a Tory government.
BST is the SF Kitson, for not understanding that the reason many folk vote is for a change of policy from the government, not for a continuation of the same thing.We now have 3 parties, blue, red and orange, that all belong to funding sponsors and all offer slightly different versions of failed neo-liberal economic policies.All it means is that on key policy areas there will be a continuity of approach.This is what city investors want to see, so that they can plan their strategies without potential hiccups.Meanwhile, social priorities will remain second order considerations, which may get some sticking plasters, but not the structural reforms that will address the issues.That is what we have, and it is piss poor.
The electorate need to grow a backbone and demand change.It happened in France and Canada, it needs to happen here. We need shot of this disgraceful professional political class who have no ones interests at heart except for themselves first and foremost followed by their shadowy political masters.We need to somehow manage to persuade professional and technical specialists (none political) who can give some time to helping to set the country straight and give meaningful direction to a politicised civil service who need to be reigned in and made to do their jobs, not dictate what gets decided upon.
It’s pretty clear to read that the silly kitson he meant is the bloke in his story
Looks like Keith has pulled the proposed New Deal on Workers Rights.Here is the FT summary:https://www.ft.com/content/fe1608d1-3a61-43a0-9c17-2868c40821c2Sharon Graham from Unite reckons it is a goner!https://nitter.poast.org/UniteSharon/status/1788231614427799593#m
BST,Your beef is really with Sharon Graham, you might ask her why what she described as "a betrayal" has now been airbrushed for public consumption.As you know, other union leaders also took a critical position.Keith decided on Tuesday to row back, avoiding a another breach with Labour in Scotland.Sharon has form, as this piece sets out;https://skwawkbox.org/2024/05/14/video-graham-cosies-with-starmer-yet-again-and-self-owns-massively/"The package, which aims to reform workers' rights and which Labour previously pledged to implement within 100 days of being in government, includes a higher sick pay rate, the end of “fire and rehire” and the banning of zero-hour contracts". It might be papering over the cracks for pre election purposes, or maybe Keith will be held to it.Certainly progress if it actually happens.Trouble is he has a history of telling porkies, and then denying it.Hardly trustworthy, is he?
Keep going Albie.You DO realise what the far left does don't you?Insist that anyone to the right of them are Red Tories.And then look round astonished when only 10% of the country agrees with them, and blame everyone else for not being true believers.I've said before, it was you and your like who gave us Austerity and Brexit and Farage and Johnson and Truss.
So nothing useful to say on the important issues at Unite raised in the article then, BST.Just the usual hamfisted attempt to smear anybody who tries to raise serious matters that do not fit with your extreme centrist beliefs.Blame the messenger, ignore the message!Or are you saying that the attempt to roll back on workers rights under Keith is not correct, and Starmer and Reeves have not really been pimping the party policy to the highest bidder?It would be a strange take, but I think you are up to it.If you don't think Labour are copying Tory policies, please point out the key differences you think will make for transformational change.What are the differences between Rachel Reeves and George Osbourne on the economic plan?Ignoring evidence that does not support your view of the world is a bit myopic, isn't it?None so blind......you know the rest!
Quote from: albie on May 18, 2024, 04:06:19 pmSo nothing useful to say on the important issues at Unite raised in the article then, BST.Just the usual hamfisted attempt to smear anybody who tries to raise serious matters that do not fit with your extreme centrist beliefs.Blame the messenger, ignore the message!Or are you saying that the attempt to roll back on workers rights under Keith is not correct, and Starmer and Reeves have not really been pimping the party policy to the highest bidder?It would be a strange take, but I think you are up to it.If you don't think Labour are copying Tory policies, please point out the key differences you think will make for transformational change.What are the differences between Rachel Reeves and George Osbourne on the economic plan?Ignoring evidence that does not support your view of the world is a bit myopic, isn't it?None so blind......you know the rest!Albie.I took a policy of ignoring Skwakbox years ago, for the same reason I ignore The Mail.Neither are remotely to be trusted to present a balanced view. Both decide what they want to be true first, and build stories around that.
So what is your answer to the questions put?1) Do you disagree with the content of the article on Unite, and please explain what is incorrect (with your evidence).2) We await your explanation of the main difference between the economic strategy of Reeves, and the austerity of Osbourne.Trustworthy Keith chats to Beth Rigby on Sky;https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1791140438964944896/vid/avc1/720x1280/XcUdzh9zFxce609M.mp4?tag=14BTW, you block cookies under the settings option in your browser.