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Never in my life did I imagine that I would see the day when a country like Rwanda cared more about abiding by International Law than my country does.
This is the line that historians will be discussing in 100 years time.Sunak in his letter to Jenrick tonight, explaining why we can't just tell the courts to f**k off. (This is the real thing by the way - not made up.)"The Rwandan government have been clear that they would not accept the UK basing this scheme on legislation that could be considered in breach of our international law obligations."Stop and absorb that for a while.That's the Government of Rwanda, a country in which 900,000 people were killed, many being chopped up with machetes in a civil war of barely believable horror a generation ago, having to lecture the UK Government on our obligations under international law.What the f**king hell have we become under this disgusting rabble?PS. In case it needs spelling out. This is what Sunak's letter did NOT say."I, as the PM of the United Kingdom, have been clear that I will not accept the UK basing this scheme on legislation that could be considered in breach of our international law obligations."
Quote from: tommy toes on December 06, 2023, 07:38:51 pmHope he follows his fellow slime ball Zahawi into obscurity, but I somehow doubt it with him. He won't and he's doing his usual positioning move ( where's my Tweet when I need it )Oh it's hereHands face spaceBlack is WhiteSay anything to deflectSay anything to stay in job he has (or better)They all do it , that's why we have so many affected yet ineffective Ministers etc like JenrickNice to see the most apt MP / Constituency partnership recognised.MP for Newark and he's a 341625 for sure
Hope he follows his fellow slime ball Zahawi into obscurity, but I somehow doubt it with him.
Quote from: Colemans Left Hook on December 06, 2023, 11:45:09 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on December 06, 2023, 09:36:36 pmI know you shouldn't judge a book by its cover, but nobody is going to tell me they can look at his face and think "He's going to be a pleasant person, isn't he?"THIS ONE ISN'T MUCH BETTER !!AS WE ALL KNOW THE TORY "BOOBS" WILL BE REPLACED WITH MUCH BIGGER "LABOUR BOOBS"
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on December 06, 2023, 09:36:36 pmI know you shouldn't judge a book by its cover, but nobody is going to tell me they can look at his face and think "He's going to be a pleasant person, isn't he?"THIS ONE ISN'T MUCH BETTER !!
I know you shouldn't judge a book by its cover, but nobody is going to tell me they can look at his face and think "He's going to be a pleasant person, isn't he?"
Quote from: Pancho Regan on December 07, 2023, 10:00:54 amNever in my life did I imagine that I would see the day when a country like Rwanda cared more about abiding by International Law than my country does.Yep , who would believe it if they had bagged our 150 million quid and then found a get out clause or invent oneWill we ask for a refund ?Worse still we send illegals there who they don't like but won't be able to send home but there is one place that has agreed to take them . The UK
Well fmd it is an internet scam .....''UK paid Rwanda an extra £100m for asylum deal''https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-67656220
I met Robert Jenrick a few years ago before he became an MP, he’s totally full of his own self importance, and comes across as a total tool, and I’m far from being a Labour supporter
Quote from: Draytonian III on December 08, 2023, 08:45:28 amI met Robert Jenrick a few years ago before he became an MP, he’s totally full of his own self importance, and comes across as a total tool, and I’m far from being a Labour supporterI remember you telling us that when that "last minute development" went through "Justin Thyme" his wife is Jewish like Starmer - Poor Wrigley didn't even know that til I told him -- it shows how secretive they ALL are
Quote from: Colemans Left Hook on December 08, 2023, 01:27:52 pmQuote from: Draytonian III on December 08, 2023, 08:45:28 amI met Robert Jenrick a few years ago before he became an MP, he’s totally full of his own self importance, and comes across as a total tool, and I’m far from being a Labour supporterI remember you telling us that when that "last minute development" went through "Justin Thyme" his wife is Jewish like Starmer - Poor Wrigley didn't even know that til I told him -- it shows how secretive they ALL areYou telling me whatever you're saying you've told me must have been in one of your impenetrable word salad clusterf**ks because I have no idea who 'Justin Thyme' is, nor who is wife is and certainly no idea why I'd have the slightest need to know what her - or indeed anybody's - religion is.
Quote from: Colemans Left Hook on July 23, 2022, 02:43:15 amQuote from: wilts rover on July 22, 2022, 05:55:13 pmQuote from: Colemans Left Hook on July 22, 2022, 02:13:17 pmI heard a very small part of a sky reporter Beth's (Mrs Coleman heard her speaking the other day and thought she was a man til she saw her) interview last night He said we didn't have children for politics ( having a right go at that conservative who was the leader of the labour party - and was also a failed rock star )then he mentioned about supporting Arsenal and mentioned he is always home for friday night and prayers ( that could be why Arsenal have improved )..... when questioned on this he "moved around" on this point November 16, 2020 14:05 Starmer: Our kids are being brought up to know their Jewish backgroundsLabour leader tells Desert Island Discs of 'long tradition of family and faith'https://www.thejc.com/news/uk/starmer-our-kids-are-being-brought-up-to-know-their-jewish-backgrounds-1.508720We do all know the children follow the religion of their Mother in such a case.from wikipediaPersonal lifeStarmer married Victoria Alexander in 2007.[221] She was previously a solicitor but now works in NHS occupational health.[5][222] The couple's son and daughter are being brought up in the Jewish faith of their mother and the family attend shabbat dinners.[9] Starmer himself stated he does not believe in God but does "believe in faith" and its power to bring people together.[223] Starmer is a keen footballer, having played for Homerton Academicals, a north London amateur team,[224] and supports Premier League side Arsenal.[5]Starmer is a vegetarian, believing that "it's better for yourself and for the environment".[225] listening to the whole interview goes onto my bucket list at least I learned somrething I didn't know about himI didn't know that about his wife, not that I am particualy bothered.I do know he used to be a keen supporter of the Palestine Solidarity Campaign - so he presumably has good knowledge of middle east and middle east politics from all sides.I think he dropped out of PSC when some activists went a bit too far and the a/s problem kicked off under Corbynhttps://twitter.com/tristandross/status/1460629248381788164I am very surprised you didn't know that thanks for that bit of info i just googled.......... starmer palestine solidarity campaign there is lots of stuff ..... he married in 2007 so he should at that time known that " the women always get their way ... children wise in the end " but obviously his stance became untenable at least he didn't become a Tottenham supporter (think about that one) https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/uk-labour-party-starmer-silence-palestinian-solidarity-dayStarmer's change of heartBefore he became party leader, he was not known for his Zionist sympathies. As a former barrister specialising in international human rights, Starmer would have honoured the UN Day of International Solidarity with the Palestinian people without hesitation. Since becoming party leader, Starmer has changed. He has embarked on a courtship of the Israel lobby, the antithesis to his earlier positions on Palestinian rightsHis past record against the illegal Iraq war, his membership of Labour Friends of Palestine, and his condemnation of the Trump Middle East peace plan as "a farce, inconsistent with international law and human rights protections" all point him in that direction. In 2015 he spoke at an election hustings on Palestine organised by Camden Palestine Solidarity Campaign, and later declared: “We can promote peace and justice around the world” against the backdrop of Stop the War campaigners holding Palestinian flags. But since becoming party leader, Starmer has changed. He has embarked on a courtship of the Israel lobby, the antithesis to his earlier positions on Palestinian rights. In January 2020, he adopted the Board of Deputies' "Ten Pledges" without caveat.These included the International Holocaust Remembrance (IHRA) definition of antisemitism that conflates antisemitism with anti-Zionism. This conflation has been at the heart of the antisemitism allegations against the Labour Party. Its aim to link criticism of Israel, and by extension support for Palestine, with "antisemitism" has so far been highly successful in hounding out these supporters.Starmer now describes himself as a "Zionist without qualification" who believes in the state of Israel.--------------------------------------While Starmer is fiercely schtum about his private life – hence his reticence to publicly name his daughter – we do know that his wife, originally from Poland, is Jewish, and that the couple's children are being raised in the Jewish faith. Speaking to the Jewish Chronicle in March, the Labour leader opened up about his wife's faith, saying: 'As you probably know my wife’s family is Jewish. On her father’s side there are bar mitzvahs, synagogues — there’s all the traditions.'https://www.tatler.com/article/who-is-keir-starmers-wife-victoriaTime to repost this -- lest ye forget in an earlier post after this we suddenly develop a previious hidden Doncastrian link to his wife.perhaps he can spin it both ways !!! but politicians have to be pragmatists Quote from: Branton Red on July 24, 2022, 07:11:50 pmQuote from: Colemans Left Hook on July 23, 2022, 02:43:15 amWhile Starmer is fiercely schtum about his private life – hence his reticence to publicly name his daughter – we do know that his wife, originally from Poland, is Jewish, and that the couple's children are being raised in the Jewish faith. Speaking to the Jewish Chronicle in March, the Labour leader opened up about his wife's faith, saying: 'As you probably know my wife’s family is Jewish. On her father’s side there are bar mitzvahs, synagogues — there’s all the traditions.'https://www.tatler.com/article/who-is-keir-starmers-wife-victoriaInteresting I was sure I'd read his wife was from Donny.Here we go www.thestar.co.uk/news/politics/the-doncaster-family-connections-of-labour-leader-sir-keir-starmer-3006047"Sir Keir’s wife Victoria comes from Doncaster and his late mother in law Barbara lived in the town before her death earlier this year." From the man himself "I’m delighted that we’re here in Doncaster. My wife’s mum was born and grew up here – just next to the racecourse."I guess the Polish link is on her Father's side
Quote from: wilts rover on July 22, 2022, 05:55:13 pmQuote from: Colemans Left Hook on July 22, 2022, 02:13:17 pmI heard a very small part of a sky reporter Beth's (Mrs Coleman heard her speaking the other day and thought she was a man til she saw her) interview last night He said we didn't have children for politics ( having a right go at that conservative who was the leader of the labour party - and was also a failed rock star )then he mentioned about supporting Arsenal and mentioned he is always home for friday night and prayers ( that could be why Arsenal have improved )..... when questioned on this he "moved around" on this point November 16, 2020 14:05 Starmer: Our kids are being brought up to know their Jewish backgroundsLabour leader tells Desert Island Discs of 'long tradition of family and faith'https://www.thejc.com/news/uk/starmer-our-kids-are-being-brought-up-to-know-their-jewish-backgrounds-1.508720We do all know the children follow the religion of their Mother in such a case.from wikipediaPersonal lifeStarmer married Victoria Alexander in 2007.[221] She was previously a solicitor but now works in NHS occupational health.[5][222] The couple's son and daughter are being brought up in the Jewish faith of their mother and the family attend shabbat dinners.[9] Starmer himself stated he does not believe in God but does "believe in faith" and its power to bring people together.[223] Starmer is a keen footballer, having played for Homerton Academicals, a north London amateur team,[224] and supports Premier League side Arsenal.[5]Starmer is a vegetarian, believing that "it's better for yourself and for the environment".[225] listening to the whole interview goes onto my bucket list at least I learned somrething I didn't know about himI didn't know that about his wife, not that I am particualy bothered.I do know he used to be a keen supporter of the Palestine Solidarity Campaign - so he presumably has good knowledge of middle east and middle east politics from all sides.I think he dropped out of PSC when some activists went a bit too far and the a/s problem kicked off under Corbynhttps://twitter.com/tristandross/status/1460629248381788164I am very surprised you didn't know that thanks for that bit of info i just googled.......... starmer palestine solidarity campaign there is lots of stuff ..... he married in 2007 so he should at that time known that " the women always get their way ... children wise in the end " but obviously his stance became untenable at least he didn't become a Tottenham supporter (think about that one) https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/uk-labour-party-starmer-silence-palestinian-solidarity-dayStarmer's change of heartBefore he became party leader, he was not known for his Zionist sympathies. As a former barrister specialising in international human rights, Starmer would have honoured the UN Day of International Solidarity with the Palestinian people without hesitation. Since becoming party leader, Starmer has changed. He has embarked on a courtship of the Israel lobby, the antithesis to his earlier positions on Palestinian rightsHis past record against the illegal Iraq war, his membership of Labour Friends of Palestine, and his condemnation of the Trump Middle East peace plan as "a farce, inconsistent with international law and human rights protections" all point him in that direction. In 2015 he spoke at an election hustings on Palestine organised by Camden Palestine Solidarity Campaign, and later declared: “We can promote peace and justice around the world” against the backdrop of Stop the War campaigners holding Palestinian flags. But since becoming party leader, Starmer has changed. He has embarked on a courtship of the Israel lobby, the antithesis to his earlier positions on Palestinian rights. In January 2020, he adopted the Board of Deputies' "Ten Pledges" without caveat.These included the International Holocaust Remembrance (IHRA) definition of antisemitism that conflates antisemitism with anti-Zionism. This conflation has been at the heart of the antisemitism allegations against the Labour Party. Its aim to link criticism of Israel, and by extension support for Palestine, with "antisemitism" has so far been highly successful in hounding out these supporters.Starmer now describes himself as a "Zionist without qualification" who believes in the state of Israel.--------------------------------------While Starmer is fiercely schtum about his private life – hence his reticence to publicly name his daughter – we do know that his wife, originally from Poland, is Jewish, and that the couple's children are being raised in the Jewish faith. Speaking to the Jewish Chronicle in March, the Labour leader opened up about his wife's faith, saying: 'As you probably know my wife’s family is Jewish. On her father’s side there are bar mitzvahs, synagogues — there’s all the traditions.'https://www.tatler.com/article/who-is-keir-starmers-wife-victoria
Quote from: Colemans Left Hook on July 22, 2022, 02:13:17 pmI heard a very small part of a sky reporter Beth's (Mrs Coleman heard her speaking the other day and thought she was a man til she saw her) interview last night He said we didn't have children for politics ( having a right go at that conservative who was the leader of the labour party - and was also a failed rock star )then he mentioned about supporting Arsenal and mentioned he is always home for friday night and prayers ( that could be why Arsenal have improved )..... when questioned on this he "moved around" on this point November 16, 2020 14:05 Starmer: Our kids are being brought up to know their Jewish backgroundsLabour leader tells Desert Island Discs of 'long tradition of family and faith'https://www.thejc.com/news/uk/starmer-our-kids-are-being-brought-up-to-know-their-jewish-backgrounds-1.508720We do all know the children follow the religion of their Mother in such a case.from wikipediaPersonal lifeStarmer married Victoria Alexander in 2007.[221] She was previously a solicitor but now works in NHS occupational health.[5][222] The couple's son and daughter are being brought up in the Jewish faith of their mother and the family attend shabbat dinners.[9] Starmer himself stated he does not believe in God but does "believe in faith" and its power to bring people together.[223] Starmer is a keen footballer, having played for Homerton Academicals, a north London amateur team,[224] and supports Premier League side Arsenal.[5]Starmer is a vegetarian, believing that "it's better for yourself and for the environment".[225] listening to the whole interview goes onto my bucket list at least I learned somrething I didn't know about himI didn't know that about his wife, not that I am particualy bothered.I do know he used to be a keen supporter of the Palestine Solidarity Campaign - so he presumably has good knowledge of middle east and middle east politics from all sides.I think he dropped out of PSC when some activists went a bit too far and the a/s problem kicked off under Corbynhttps://twitter.com/tristandross/status/1460629248381788164
I heard a very small part of a sky reporter Beth's (Mrs Coleman heard her speaking the other day and thought she was a man til she saw her) interview last night He said we didn't have children for politics ( having a right go at that conservative who was the leader of the labour party - and was also a failed rock star )then he mentioned about supporting Arsenal and mentioned he is always home for friday night and prayers ( that could be why Arsenal have improved )..... when questioned on this he "moved around" on this point November 16, 2020 14:05 Starmer: Our kids are being brought up to know their Jewish backgroundsLabour leader tells Desert Island Discs of 'long tradition of family and faith'https://www.thejc.com/news/uk/starmer-our-kids-are-being-brought-up-to-know-their-jewish-backgrounds-1.508720We do all know the children follow the religion of their Mother in such a case.from wikipediaPersonal lifeStarmer married Victoria Alexander in 2007.[221] She was previously a solicitor but now works in NHS occupational health.[5][222] The couple's son and daughter are being brought up in the Jewish faith of their mother and the family attend shabbat dinners.[9] Starmer himself stated he does not believe in God but does "believe in faith" and its power to bring people together.[223] Starmer is a keen footballer, having played for Homerton Academicals, a north London amateur team,[224] and supports Premier League side Arsenal.[5]Starmer is a vegetarian, believing that "it's better for yourself and for the environment".[225] listening to the whole interview goes onto my bucket list at least I learned somrething I didn't know about him
Quote from: Colemans Left Hook on July 23, 2022, 02:43:15 amWhile Starmer is fiercely schtum about his private life – hence his reticence to publicly name his daughter – we do know that his wife, originally from Poland, is Jewish, and that the couple's children are being raised in the Jewish faith. Speaking to the Jewish Chronicle in March, the Labour leader opened up about his wife's faith, saying: 'As you probably know my wife’s family is Jewish. On her father’s side there are bar mitzvahs, synagogues — there’s all the traditions.'https://www.tatler.com/article/who-is-keir-starmers-wife-victoriaInteresting I was sure I'd read his wife was from Donny.Here we go www.thestar.co.uk/news/politics/the-doncaster-family-connections-of-labour-leader-sir-keir-starmer-3006047"Sir Keir’s wife Victoria comes from Doncaster and his late mother in law Barbara lived in the town before her death earlier this year." From the man himself "I’m delighted that we’re here in Doncaster. My wife’s mum was born and grew up here – just next to the racecourse."I guess the Polish link is on her Father's side
While Starmer is fiercely schtum about his private life – hence his reticence to publicly name his daughter – we do know that his wife, originally from Poland, is Jewish, and that the couple's children are being raised in the Jewish faith. Speaking to the Jewish Chronicle in March, the Labour leader opened up about his wife's faith, saying: 'As you probably know my wife’s family is Jewish. On her father’s side there are bar mitzvahs, synagogues — there’s all the traditions.'https://www.tatler.com/article/who-is-keir-starmers-wife-victoria
Quote from: Colemans Left Hook on December 08, 2023, 01:27:52 pmQuote from: Draytonian III on December 08, 2023, 08:45:28 amI met Robert Jenrick a few years ago before he became an MP, he’s totally full of his own self importance, and comes across as a total tool, and I’m far from being a Labour supporterI remember you telling us that when that "last minute development" went through "Justin Thyme" his wife is Jewish like Starmer - Poor Wrigley didn't even know that til I told him -- it shows how secretive they ALL are???
Quote from: Draytonian III on December 08, 2023, 08:45:28 amI met Robert Jenrick a few years ago before he became an MP, he’s totally full of his own self importance, and comes across as a total tool, and I’m far from being a Labour supporterI remember you telling us that when that "last minute development" went through "Justin Thyme" his wife is Jewish like Starmer - Poor Wrigley didn't even know that til I told him -- it shows how secretive they ALL are
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on December 08, 2023, 04:04:00 pmQuote from: Colemans Left Hook on December 08, 2023, 01:27:52 pmQuote from: Draytonian III on December 08, 2023, 08:45:28 amI met Robert Jenrick a few years ago before he became an MP, he’s totally full of his own self importance, and comes across as a total tool, and I’m far from being a Labour supporterI remember you telling us that when that "last minute development" went through "Justin Thyme" his wife is Jewish like Starmer - Poor Wrigley didn't even know that til I told him -- it shows how secretive they ALL areYou telling me whatever you're saying you've told me must have been in one of your impenetrable word salad clusterf**ks because I have no idea who 'Justin Thyme' is, nor who is wife is and certainly no idea why I'd have the slightest need to know what her - or indeed anybody's - religion is.Sadly "Mastermind" isn't for you https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=KlIIHWn_rw8
Quote from: Colemans Left Hook on December 08, 2023, 01:27:52 pmQuote from: Draytonian III on December 08, 2023, 08:45:28 amI met Robert Jenrick a few years ago before he became an MP, he’s totally full of his own self importance, and comes across as a total tool, and I’m far from being a Labour supporterI remember you telling us that when that "last minute development" went through "Justin Thyme" his wife is Jewish like Starmer - Poor Wrigley didn't even know that til I told him -- it shows how secretive they ALL areYou telling me whatever you're saying you've told me must have been in one of your impenetrable word salad clusterf**ks because I have no idea who 'Justin Thyme' is, nor who is wife is and certainly no idea why I'd have the slightest need to know what her - or indeed anybody's - religion is.
All three main political parties are old hat, done, dusted and outlived their usefulness, it is time for new kids on the block to come to the fore and sort a dysfunctional establishment out. The electorate are ready for it, if anyone with charisma, straight talking, and willing to take the establishment in government and the civil service and local government on they will get a following. The day of educated idiots running the show should be coming to a quick end.
Quote from: selby on December 09, 2023, 11:07:26 am All three main political parties are old hat, done, dusted and outlived their usefulness, it is time for new kids on the block to come to the fore and sort a dysfunctional establishment out. The electorate are ready for it, if anyone with charisma, straight talking, and willing to take the establishment in government and the civil service and local government on they will get a following. The day of educated idiots running the show should be coming to a quick end. And this is precisely how democracy ends. When bored, ignorant people want a charismatic leader to smash everything up.