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See the Tories are going after our rights now. https://twitter.com/premnsikka/status/1732721427118243967?s=19I also see neither Labour or Lib Dems didn't back a motion for the minimum service bill for trade union strikes.https://twitter.com/SocialistVoice/status/1732463481507496130?s=19Well that's up to 6 millions trade union members not going to vote for the main 3 then.
Quote from: roverstillidie91 on December 07, 2023, 10:25:40 pmSee the Tories are going after our rights now. https://twitter.com/premnsikka/status/1732721427118243967?s=19I also see neither Labour or Lib Dems didn't back a motion for the minimum service bill for trade union strikes.https://twitter.com/SocialistVoice/status/1732463481507496130?s=19Well that's up to 6 millions trade union members not going to vote for the main 3 then.You have to accept that the tories are desperate for a war, culture or any other type and will keep this type of thing going right up till the election. It's up to the other parties to deny them that last ditch opportunity to distract those that want to engage them with facts. Think of it as a type of bb tactics 91.
Quote from: SydneyRover on December 07, 2023, 11:04:01 pmQuote from: roverstillidie91 on December 07, 2023, 10:25:40 pmSee the Tories are going after our rights now. https://twitter.com/premnsikka/status/1732721427118243967?s=19I also see neither Labour or Lib Dems didn't back a motion for the minimum service bill for trade union strikes.https://twitter.com/SocialistVoice/status/1732463481507496130?s=19Well that's up to 6 millions trade union members not going to vote for the main 3 then.You have to accept that the tories are desperate for a war, culture or any other type and will keep this type of thing going right up till the election. It's up to the other parties to deny them that last ditch opportunity to distract those that want to engage them with facts. Think of it as a type of bb tactics 91.Your vote will count!
This captures my thoughts 91......... ''Which prime minister originally signed off on the idea of exporting asylum seekers to Rwanda, a plan that was always as unworkable as it is morally offensive, and which coincidentally unravelled just as Johnson took the witness stand? It was, of course, one Boris Johnson, who launched it the day after receiving his partygate fine in what was seen at the time as an attempt to deflect from his embarrassment. Sunak could have torn the Rwanda plan up on becoming leader but was too afraid of the Tory right, which has characteristically now turned on him anyway''https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/dec/07/far-from-cleaning-up-boris-johnsons-covid-mess-rishi-sunak-is-drowning-in-it
Quote from: Sprotyrover on December 08, 2023, 10:44:29 amQuote from: SydneyRover on December 07, 2023, 11:04:01 pmQuote from: roverstillidie91 on December 07, 2023, 10:25:40 pmSee the Tories are going after our rights now. https://twitter.com/premnsikka/status/1732721427118243967?s=19I also see neither Labour or Lib Dems didn't back a motion for the minimum service bill for trade union strikes.https://twitter.com/SocialistVoice/status/1732463481507496130?s=19Well that's up to 6 millions trade union members not going to vote for the main 3 then.You have to accept that the tories are desperate for a war, culture or any other type and will keep this type of thing going right up till the election. It's up to the other parties to deny them that last ditch opportunity to distract those that want to engage them with facts. Think of it as a type of bb tactics 91.Your vote will count! the trade union Congress should mobilise the 6 million union members to vote against Starmer, that would cause them a head ache.Also the minimum strike levels breaches the brexit agreement too.
Quote from: roverstillidie91 on December 08, 2023, 02:00:27 pmQuote from: Sprotyrover on December 08, 2023, 10:44:29 amQuote from: SydneyRover on December 07, 2023, 11:04:01 pmQuote from: roverstillidie91 on December 07, 2023, 10:25:40 pmSee the Tories are going after our rights now. https://twitter.com/premnsikka/status/1732721427118243967?s=19I also see neither Labour or Lib Dems didn't back a motion for the minimum service bill for trade union strikes.https://twitter.com/SocialistVoice/status/1732463481507496130?s=19Well that's up to 6 millions trade union members not going to vote for the main 3 then.You have to accept that the tories are desperate for a war, culture or any other type and will keep this type of thing going right up till the election. It's up to the other parties to deny them that last ditch opportunity to distract those that want to engage them with facts. Think of it as a type of bb tactics 91.Your vote will count! the trade union Congress should mobilise the 6 million union members to vote against Starmer, that would cause them a head ache.Also the minimum strike levels breaches the brexit agreement too.Do you seriously think that the TUC or even the individual unions have that sort of clout?WE have some of our staff in a union, they pay £23.00 quid a month (i'm thinking its the same union that your in)They have had absolutely bugger all for their membership fee and are now talking about bringing their grievances to management personally. To me that's been typical of that union for years with regard to our staff.
Isn't yours one of those unions that's been battling the Rail companies on your behalf for the last eighteen months, DD?
Quote from: danumdon on December 08, 2023, 03:05:05 pmQuote from: roverstillidie91 on December 08, 2023, 02:00:27 pmQuote from: Sprotyrover on December 08, 2023, 10:44:29 amQuote from: SydneyRover on December 07, 2023, 11:04:01 pmQuote from: roverstillidie91 on December 07, 2023, 10:25:40 pmSee the Tories are going after our rights now. https://twitter.com/premnsikka/status/1732721427118243967?s=19I also see neither Labour or Lib Dems didn't back a motion for the minimum service bill for trade union strikes.https://twitter.com/SocialistVoice/status/1732463481507496130?s=19Well that's up to 6 millions trade union members not going to vote for the main 3 then.You have to accept that the tories are desperate for a war, culture or any other type and will keep this type of thing going right up till the election. It's up to the other parties to deny them that last ditch opportunity to distract those that want to engage them with facts. Think of it as a type of bb tactics 91.Your vote will count! the trade union Congress should mobilise the 6 million union members to vote against Starmer, that would cause them a head ache.Also the minimum strike levels breaches the brexit agreement too.Do you seriously think that the TUC or even the individual unions have that sort of clout?WE have some of our staff in a union, they pay £23.00 quid a month (i'm thinking its the same union that your in)They have had absolutely bugger all for their membership fee and are now talking about bringing their grievances to management personally. To me that's been typical of that union for years with regard to our staff.If the members are continuously getting let down by their leaders then there's a democratic answer to that and that's to stop voting them in and replace them with leaders who will address the members concerns .The other potential flaw with your post and I do stress potential is that in my past experience is that members think by simply paying their subs and nothing else they seem to be of the opinion that they play no part what so ever in their employment health .Many don't grasp that trade unions are bottom to top organisations and it's the members who have the clout and any trade union is only as strong as it's members .The days of the car park and intimidating show of hands voting systems are long gone .
Quote from: tyke1962 on December 08, 2023, 03:42:46 pmQuote from: danumdon on December 08, 2023, 03:05:05 pmQuote from: roverstillidie91 on December 08, 2023, 02:00:27 pmQuote from: Sprotyrover on December 08, 2023, 10:44:29 amQuote from: SydneyRover on December 07, 2023, 11:04:01 pmQuote from: roverstillidie91 on December 07, 2023, 10:25:40 pmSee the Tories are going after our rights now. https://twitter.com/premnsikka/status/1732721427118243967?s=19I also see neither Labour or Lib Dems didn't back a motion for the minimum service bill for trade union strikes.https://twitter.com/SocialistVoice/status/1732463481507496130?s=19Well that's up to 6 millions trade union members not going to vote for the main 3 then.You have to accept that the tories are desperate for a war, culture or any other type and will keep this type of thing going right up till the election. It's up to the other parties to deny them that last ditch opportunity to distract those that want to engage them with facts. Think of it as a type of bb tactics 91.Your vote will count! the trade union Congress should mobilise the 6 million union members to vote against Starmer, that would cause them a head ache.Also the minimum strike levels breaches the brexit agreement too.Do you seriously think that the TUC or even the individual unions have that sort of clout?WE have some of our staff in a union, they pay £23.00 quid a month (i'm thinking its the same union that your in)They have had absolutely bugger all for their membership fee and are now talking about bringing their grievances to management personally. To me that's been typical of that union for years with regard to our staff.If the members are continuously getting let down by their leaders then there's a democratic answer to that and that's to stop voting them in and replace them with leaders who will address the members concerns .The other potential flaw with your post and I do stress potential is that in my past experience is that members think by simply paying their subs and nothing else they seem to be of the opinion that they play no part what so ever in their employment health .Many don't grasp that trade unions are bottom to top organisations and it's the members who have the clout and any trade union is only as strong as it's members .The days of the car park and intimidating show of hands voting systems are long gone .Yes, i totally agree they have been led up the garden path and back again, The union don't carry out their wishes or demands and they still pay their subs towards what is in effect legalised robbery.The problems they have at this time is not pay related but more towards terms and conditions agreements and in effect how they are worked. All terms and conditions were agreed with union involvement and at the time were put to the staff and they voted to accept them.They have now decided that they don't like the conditions and the union don't want to play ball with them.