General Election

[ravenrover]

So the Minister for children goes on a radio chat show talking about an election promise of raising the threshold to £120k for child allowance but doesn't know what amount the child allowance is?
Unbelievable
https://x.com/LBC/status/1798975580274401331?t=bcBiTsCsq8-1jcobKlyO-g&s=19

[Ldr]

So the Minister for children goes on a radio chat show talking about an election promise of raising the threshold to £120k for child allowance but doesn't know what amount the child allowance is?
Unbelievable
https://x.com/LBC/status/1798975580274401331?t=bcBiTsCsq8-1jcobKlyO-g&s=19

Nothing surprises anymore from this rabble. Reminiscent of how rovers were ran under Richardson

[Filo]

Angela Rayner needs to be straight into Rear Admiral Penny Morduant tonight about Sunak leaving the D-Day event, the Admiral representing a military seat will have no place to hide

[Bentley Bullet]

Story coming out now is that last week, Sunak told the French Govt he wasn't going at all because he was too busy campaigning.

Beyond words.

Every time you deflect from the inadequacies of your own beloved Labour Party by spending all your time condemning rival parties instead support my claim that this Labour Party is a party of protest and not a party of government. The Labour Party AND ITS SUPPORTERS can only lift itself up by bringing opponent parties down.

There will be nothing to hide behind when this Labour Party is in power.

Billy’s resigned from the party though?

Oh, he's finally kept his word, has he?

[Filo]

https://x.com/qandamazon/status/1798985791500419383?s=61&t=DCRm1C_BBr5pt7J45jXUsA

[Ldr]

Story coming out now is that last week, Sunak told the French Govt he wasn't going at all because he was too busy campaigning.

Beyond words.

Every time you deflect from the inadequacies of your own beloved Labour Party by spending all your time condemning rival parties instead support my claim that this Labour Party is a party of protest and not a party of government. The Labour Party AND ITS SUPPORTERS can only lift itself up by bringing opponent parties down.

There will be nothing to hide behind when this Labour Party is in power.

Billy’s resigned from the party though?

Oh, he's finally kept his word, has he?

Have to assume he has yes, he wouldn’t comprise his integrity

[MachoMadness]

The interview he bailed on D Day for isn't even going to be shown until Weds night! So he could've easily recorded the interview whenever. I've never seen anyone so detached from humanity. He makes Maybot and Starmer look like Barney the Dinosaur when it comes to warmth and empathy.

[ChrisBx]

I follow a broad range of views on social media, including those on the right of the political spectrum. I'm also currently listening to a radio phone-in on which the D-Day snub is being dissected. It's difficult to understate just how horrificly this has gone down with pretty much everyone. I suspect this is terminal for Sunak's chances of clawing back any support in the polls.

[Herbert Anchovy]

It does make you wonder just who is advising Sunak at the moment? I'm old enough to remember the shambles of the 1983 General Election where it almost seemed as if Labour were deliberately going out of their way to get trounced by Thatcher but this is taking it to an all new level.

[Herbert Anchovy]

A couple of thoughts from me on the right wing in the UK. Firstly, it really concerns me that so many people seem to be willing to vote for Reform who are quite open about the fact that they'd be willing to cut individuals freedoms and protections by leaving the ECHR and the WHO and abolishing the equalities act. How on earth could anyone vote for cutting freedom and liberty? These bench marks apply to and protect all of us.

Secondly, the Tories need to stop trying to out right wing Reform and return to a sensible centre right view point. Despite the state of the country, they do have some talented  members left who, though I don't always agree with, are at least capable of doing a reasonable job. Until they do that they're going to remain light years behind Labour.

[ncRover]

I follow a broad range of views on social media, including those on the right of the political spectrum. I'm also currently listening to a radio phone-in on which the D-Day snub is being dissected. It's difficult to understate just how horrificly this has gone down with pretty much everyone. I suspect this is terminal for Sunak's chances of clawing back any support in the polls.

Yes lots of traditional conservative cheerleaders such as Tim Montgomerie are apoplectic.

This is exactly the kind of thing that will produce another points swing to Reform.

That will put us in unprecedented territory. Lots of people vote Conservative simply because they are the biggest party on the right and help to keep the biggest party of the left out.

Because of our FPTP electoral system this could soon become a tipping point in Reform’s favour.

I disagreed with someone about this before but I now also forsee more centrist / liberal minded conservatives going from Tories to Lib Dems as Davey seems a capable and genuine bloke. Labour are centrist but have socialists in their ranks as a broad church. Could be one vote of no confidence from having someone like Raynor as PM.

[Herbert Anchovy]

I follow a broad range of views on social media, including those on the right of the political spectrum. I'm also currently listening to a radio phone-in on which the D-Day snub is being dissected. It's difficult to understate just how horrificly this has gone down with pretty much everyone. I suspect this is terminal for Sunak's chances of clawing back any support in the polls.

Yes lots of traditional conservative cheerleaders such as Tim Montgomerie are apoplectic.

This is exactly the kind of thing that will produce another points swing to Reform.

That will put us in unprecedented territory. Lots of people vote Conservative simply because they are the biggest party on the right and help to keep the biggest party of the left out.

Because of our FPTP electoral system this could soon become a tipping point in Reform’s favour.

I disagreed with someone about this before but I now also forsee more centrist / liberal minded conservatives going from Tories to Lib Dems as Davey seems a capable and genuine bloke. Labour are centrist but have socialists in their ranks as a broad church. Could be one vote of no confidence from having someone like Raynor as PM.

It'd be highly unlikely, but I'd be more than happy to have Raynor as PM. I suspect that she's one of the few in parliament who actually has any grasp of real life.

[ncRover]

I follow a broad range of views on social media, including those on the right of the political spectrum. I'm also currently listening to a radio phone-in on which the D-Day snub is being dissected. It's difficult to understate just how horrificly this has gone down with pretty much everyone. I suspect this is terminal for Sunak's chances of clawing back any support in the polls.

Yes lots of traditional conservative cheerleaders such as Tim Montgomerie are apoplectic.

This is exactly the kind of thing that will produce another points swing to Reform.

That will put us in unprecedented territory. Lots of people vote Conservative simply because they are the biggest party on the right and help to keep the biggest party of the left out.

Because of our FPTP electoral system this could soon become a tipping point in Reform’s favour.

I disagreed with someone about this before but I now also forsee more centrist / liberal minded conservatives going from Tories to Lib Dems as Davey seems a capable and genuine bloke. Labour are centrist but have socialists in their ranks as a broad church. Could be one vote of no confidence from having someone like Raynor as PM.

It'd be highly unlikely, but I'd be more than happy to have Raynor as PM. I suspect that she's one of the few in parliament who actually has any grasp of real life.

There will be more than you give credit for but the likes of our recent leaders in Sunak and Johnson - absolutely not.

See Davey here:

https://youtu.be/d6LJEUKdjNI?si=-BzyQmn0Z9Agolgl

[Herbert Anchovy]

I follow a broad range of views on social media, including those on the right of the political spectrum. I'm also currently listening to a radio phone-in on which the D-Day snub is being dissected. It's difficult to understate just how horrificly this has gone down with pretty much everyone. I suspect this is terminal for Sunak's chances of clawing back any support in the polls.

Yes lots of traditional conservative cheerleaders such as Tim Montgomerie are apoplectic.

This is exactly the kind of thing that will produce another points swing to Reform.

That will put us in unprecedented territory. Lots of people vote Conservative simply because they are the biggest party on the right and help to keep the biggest party of the left out.

Because of our FPTP electoral system this could soon become a tipping point in Reform’s favour.

I disagreed with someone about this before but I now also forsee more centrist / liberal minded conservatives going from Tories to Lib Dems as Davey seems a capable and genuine bloke. Labour are centrist but have socialists in their ranks as a broad church. Could be one vote of no confidence from having someone like Raynor as PM.

It'd be highly unlikely, but I'd be more than happy to have Raynor as PM. I suspect that she's one of the few in parliament who actually has any grasp of real life.

There will be more than you give credit for but the likes of our recent leaders in Sunak and Johnson - absolutely not.

See Davey here:

https://youtu.be/d6LJEUKdjNI?si=-BzyQmn0Z9Agolgl

Fair shout. I do like Ed Davey.

[i_ateallthepies]

They liked it when Johnson was doing it.

I'm referring to him leaving the DDay Events in Normandy early to do a TV programme not the lying.

Thanks, RTID88, I hadn't heard about Sunak leaving France early when I posted my response so I thought your earlier post was still about the 'lie'.

[BillyStubbsTears]

I follow a broad range of views on social media, including those on the right of the political spectrum. I'm also currently listening to a radio phone-in on which the D-Day snub is being dissected. It's difficult to understate just how horrificly this has gone down with pretty much everyone. I suspect this is terminal for Sunak's chances of clawing back any support in the polls.

Yes lots of traditional conservative cheerleaders such as Tim Montgomerie are apoplectic.

This is exactly the kind of thing that will produce another points swing to Reform.

That will put us in unprecedented territory. Lots of people vote Conservative simply because they are the biggest party on the right and help to keep the biggest party of the left out.

Because of our FPTP electoral system this could soon become a tipping point in Reform’s favour.

I disagreed with someone about this before but I now also forsee more centrist / liberal minded conservatives going from Tories to Lib Dems as Davey seems a capable and genuine bloke. Labour are centrist but have socialists in their ranks as a broad church. Could be one vote of no confidence from having someone like Raynor as PM.

It's fascinating that we could be at one of those historic tipping points where a major national party is eclipsed.

I've been saying for a good while that we might be heading there.

Remember, it does happen when parties become irrelevant. At the time of WWI, the Liberals and their previous name of Whigs had been one of the two natural parties of Govt for 200 years. They'd changed with the times and picked up the left leaning working class vote as the electorate was expanded to include them.

By the end of WWI, they'd been in power for the past 13 years and for 28 of the past 50 years.

And then...poof! By 1923 they'd been overtaken by Labour. By 1924 they were down to 40 seats and they've pretty much stayed there ever since.

That's the territory that the Tories are now moving into. I really don't want this to happen, but it's quite possible, maybe even likely, that they are going to be eclipsed by RefUK.

[SydneyRover]

I can see the future ........ I see labour's tv ads with risky standing in the rain then crossing to real D-Day footage with Risky with him leaving early.

Maxwell Smart

[BillyStubbsTears]

Nevermind. Kuenssberg has an explanation for Sunak.

https://x.com/AdamBienkov/status/1798968915298496877

He's got to run the country.

Except...err...let me do your f**king job for you Laura.

1) He came back to do an interview with ITV about him lying in the leaders debate

2) Does Joe Biden not have a country to run? What about Zelensky? Presumably he's got the odd thing to deal with. Both of those two stayed for the whole day.

[BillyStubbsTears]

I can see the future ........ I see labour's tv ads with risky standing in the rain then crossing to real D-Day footage with Risky with him leaving early.

Maxwell Smart

I think this sums it up.

https://x.com/moorcraftjohn/status/1799003656441987117

[Filo]

Sunak: “the itinerary was set weeks ago”

I think someone in the Tory Party needs to take that shovel off him

[SydneyRover]

This Labour Party is a party of protest, not a party of government.

It can only lift itself up by bringing opponent parties down.

There will be nothing to hide behind when this Labour Party is in power.

How can anyone do a better job than risky falling on his own sword, the tories have been getting the big calls dead wrong for 14+ years, it's way, way too late to turn away from the iceberg now.

[mugnapper]

Sunak: “the itinerary was set weeks ago”

I think someone in the Tory Party needs to take that shovel off him

He tried to blame his 'team' for this.
Did ITV not have a reporter at the D Day commemorations who could have conducted this interview in France?
Or if no one there was suitable to do the interview, surely they could have done it via video link?
Just seen Richy 'apologising'. He looks like a man who knows the game is up.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Sunak: “the itinerary was set weeks ago”

I think someone in the Tory Party needs to take that shovel off him

He needs asking point blank. "Did you tell the French Govt last week that you were not planning to attend at all?"

And if the itinerary was set weeks ago, how come he ended up last night being interviewed about something that only happened a few days ago?

This is spiralling totally out of control.

[Filo]

The itinerary was set weeks ago

So the ITV interview to defend his lie was set before he made the lie?

[BillyStubbsTears]

I've never known a PM get hoyed out during an election campaign.

But watch this space.

If the Tories drop well below 20% in the polls this weekend, there's going to be some serious panic going on.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Christ, it's getting worse by the minute. His line now is "I attended all the British events."

He might not even make it to the weekend with how this is going.

Note the total absence of any senior ministers hitting the boards to defend him.

[BillyStubbsTears]

They rolled out an obscure junior onto the Today programme on R4 this morning. He was asked, "where was the PM yesterday evening." He answered "I don't know."

[BillyStubbsTears]

Jesus this is horrific.

https://x.com/SkyNews/status/1799034908758946110

He just repeats the same lines over and over again. It's like he's been lobotomised.

[MachoMadness]

The itinerary was set weeks ago

So the ITV interview to defend his lie was set before he made the lie?

Pretty sure D-Day commemorations have been on the calendar for a whole lot longer than that, Rishi!

[MachoMadness]

Interesting to see what line Mordaunt takes in the debate tonight. She's in a military seat and has ambitions to be the next Tory leader. Does she go down defending Sunak or throw him under the bus?