General Election

[MachoMadness]

Judging by the story that's just come out about Sunak's senior aide putting a bet on the election date days before he announced it, it think it's his team's turn.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Yeah but did he get the date right?

Given the incompetence of this shit shower, it wouldn't surprise me if he got it wrong.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Story about Sunak's aides by the way, is that Sunak's said he'll look after them once they lose their jobs. He's reported to have said he'll invest in any businesses they set up.

Can you imagine that lot running businesses?

A group who never thought to check the weather forecast before sending their boss out to look like Withnail and I when he announced the election.

A group that thought: "Here's an idea boss. Let's f**k off the D Day thing and do an ITV interview about how deprived your childhood was."

A group that thought it'd be a great idea to show how ordinary their boss was by having him take a little car to the petrol station, fill up and pay. And then never thought to row back when the video showed he didn't actually didn't know how to pay.

[scawsby steve]

I've said right from the start that he wants out.

His California ranch and Silicon Valley are beckoning.

[ncRover]

I've said right from the start that he wants out.

His California ranch and Silicon Valley are beckoning.

Making the tea for the guy who makes the coffee at Google?

[Herbert Anchovy]

Rishi Sunak looked like a beaten man during the Sky debate this evening. He seemed tired and fed up at times, as if he could no longer galvanise any sort of enthusiasm. I must admit, I felt a little bit sorry for him.

Starmer lacked a bit of detail and was caught out a bit around tax. I wish that Labour would be open about possible tax increases. We all know that they've got to happen if we're to maintain (and hopefully improve) public services and I'm sure that many people would not object paying a little extra tax if it's being spent correctly.

It was certainly another win for Starmer though. I think that people would quite welcome 'boring' politics after the disaster of personality politics over the past few years.

[Bentley Bullet]

I didn't see the second debate so can't comment on it, but when you say 'another win for Starmer', When was his previous win?

[TonySoprano]

If england do well in the euros I can see a swell of support for Nigel and reform.

[Iberian Red]

Is he in the starting 11?
Let's hope he doesn't miss a penalty and get dogs abuse like the last Euros.

[BillyStubbsTears]

If england do well in the euros I can see a swell of support for Nigel and reform.

Yeah. I remember when England got to the semi in 96 and everyone was saying, "Great! It's ok to be a fascist now!"

[TonySoprano]

If england do well in the euros I can see a swell of support for Nigel and reform.

Yeah. I remember when England got to the semi in 96 and everyone was saying, "Great! It's ok to be a fascist now!"

Far too easy  .

So farage is a fascist? And anyone who votes for them ?
How so ? Your literally clueless, it's the far left, the woke agenda and the net zero policies where the real fascists lie.

[ncRover]

If england do well in the euros I can see a swell of support for Nigel and reform.

Patriotism doesn’t equate to nationalism

[MachoMadness]

Isn't Farage one of the main bedwetters who said they wouldn't support England because the players took the knee?

[BillyStubbsTears]

If england do well in the euros I can see a swell of support for Nigel and reform.

Yeah. I remember when England got to the semi in 96 and everyone was saying, "Great! It's ok to be a fascist now!"

Far too easy  .

So farage is a fascist? And anyone who votes for them ?
How so ? Your literally clueless, it's the far left, the woke agenda and the net zero policies where the real fascists lie.

https://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=291308.msg1322243#msg1322243

[idler]

If england do well in the euros I can see a swell of support for Nigel and reform.

Yeah. I remember when England got to the semi in 96 and everyone was saying, "Great! It's ok to be a fascist now!"

Far too easy  .

So farage is a fascist? And anyone who votes for them ?
How so ? Your literally clueless, it's the far left, the woke agenda and the net zero policies where the real fascists lie.

How can you have a left wing fascist?

[DonnyOsmond]

If england do well in the euros I can see a swell of support for Nigel and reform.

"Guehi plays the ball into Mainoo, across to Eze, who takes on his man, drills it across... SAKKAAAAAAA. BUKAYO SAKA SCORES THE GOAL TO WIN ENGLAND THE EUROS!"

Rights wingers - "f**k yeah, close the borders and sell off the NHS!"

[BillyStubbsTears]

If england do well in the euros I can see a swell of support for Nigel and reform.

Yeah. I remember when England got to the semi in 96 and everyone was saying, "Great! It's ok to be a fascist now!"

Far too easy  .

So farage is a fascist? And anyone who votes for them ?
How so ? Your literally clueless, it's the far left, the woke agenda and the net zero policies where the real fascists lie.

How can you have a left wing fascist?

The irony is, our wannabe gangster here is doing exactly what he accuses other people of doing.

He's using "fascist" as a bone idle insult meaning "people I don't agree with".

Whereas I'm using "fascist" to mean "people who believe in or agree with fascist ideas."

Like the 10% of RefUK candidates who have friended a someone who openly brags on FB about being a fascist. Or the RefUK leader who says the world leader he most admires is an ethno-fascist dictator.

[Sprotyrover]

If england do well in the euros I can see a swell of support for Nigel and reform.

Yeah. I remember when England got to the semi in 96 and everyone was saying, "Great! It's ok to be a fascist now!"

Far too easy  .

So farage is a fascist? And anyone who votes for them ?
How so ? Your literally clueless, it's the far left, the woke agenda and the net zero policies where the real fascists lie.

How can you have a left wing fascist?

Joe Stalin Springs to mind, Pol Pot ,Chairman Mao,Fidel Castro etc!

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

I'd love to see comparisons of the main parties manifestos 2019 Vs now compared. The labour manifesto doesn't feel particularly far away from that or the Tories.  Very safe, but that's probably exactly what was needed.

[ncRover]

I'd love to see comparisons of the main parties manifestos 2019 Vs now compared. The labour manifesto doesn't feel particularly far away from that or the Tories.  Very safe, but that's probably exactly what was needed.

Compared to previous Labour manifestos

https://x.com/edconwaysky/status/1801233554849886382?s=46

Compared to LibDem / Cons

https://x.com/edconwaysky/status/1801232841990083035?s=46

The Labour manifesto needs some serious fact-checking. Surely they are massively underestimating how much things cost?

[Sprotyrover]

There isn’t much scope for Labours very modest plans, no Piggy Banks to plunder, it’s going to be even austerity
I might decide to make a few Bob chasing Tax Dodgers that job is just up my street!

[Ldr]

There isn’t much scope for Labours very modest plans, no Piggy Banks to plunder, it’s going to be even austerity
I might decide to make a few Bob chasing Tax Dodgers that job is just up my street!

Tax expats more, no representation without taxation!!

[albie]

I'd love to see comparisons of the main parties manifestos 2019 Vs now compared. The labour manifesto doesn't feel particularly far away from that or the Tories.  Very safe, but that's probably exactly what was needed.

Ben Chu from the BBC posted this;
https://nitter.poast.org/BenChu_/status/1801202947860103353#m

Trickle down here we come....or not!

[SydneyRover]

There isn’t much scope for Labours very modest plans, no Piggy Banks to plunder, it’s going to be even austerity
I might decide to make a few Bob chasing Tax Dodgers that job is just up my street!

BB can help you make a start he knows a tax dodger and there was someone else I remember said that his bank manager gave him the third degree when he drew cash out to pay for some work.

[Sprotyrover]

There isn’t much scope for Labours very modest plans, no Piggy Banks to plunder, it’s going to be even austerity
I might decide to make a few Bob chasing Tax Dodgers that job is just up my street!

BB can help you make a start he knows a tax dodger and there was someone else I remember said that his bank manager gave him the third degree when he drew cash out to pay for some work.

You need to worry about the mess Albinese is making for you! Hope you been paying your stamp duty!

[SydneyRover]

There isn’t much scope for Labours very modest plans, no Piggy Banks to plunder, it’s going to be even austerity
I might decide to make a few Bob chasing Tax Dodgers that job is just up my street!

BB can help you make a start he knows a tax dodger and there was someone else I remember said that his bank manager gave him the third degree when he drew cash out to pay for some work.

You need to worry about the mess Albinese is making for you! Hope you been paying your stamp duty!

As I've said before, I'm quite happy paying taxes towards the upkeep of services.

[Iberian Red]

There isn’t much scope for Labours very modest plans, no Piggy Banks to plunder, it’s going to be even austerity
I might decide to make a few Bob chasing Tax Dodgers that job is just up my street!

Tax expats more, no representation without taxation!!

Very hypocritical, the other week you were saying people should only vote where they pay tax ans Social Security!!!!!

It's a great slogan tho,sounds like something from the student(singular) union tory party piss up.

[DonnyOsmond]

I'd love to see comparisons of the main parties manifestos 2019 Vs now compared. The labour manifesto doesn't feel particularly far away from that or the Tories.  Very safe, but that's probably exactly what was needed.

Compared to previous Labour manifestos

https://x.com/edconwaysky/status/1801233554849886382?s=46

Compared to LibDem / Cons

https://x.com/edconwaysky/status/1801232841990083035?s=46

The Labour manifesto needs some serious fact-checking. Surely they are massively underestimating how much things cost?

How very small c conservative.

[Ldr]

There isn’t much scope for Labours very modest plans, no Piggy Banks to plunder, it’s going to be even austerity
I might decide to make a few Bob chasing Tax Dodgers that job is just up my street!

Tax expats more, no representation without taxation!!

Very hypocritical, the other week you were saying people should only vote where they pay tax ans Social Security!!!!!

It's a great slogan tho,sounds like something from the student(singular) union tory party piss up.

Deliberately paraphrasing the American revolution Iberian. Yes people should only vote where they pay tax so expats should pay here to vote here, I’m been consistent there

[BillyStubbsTears]

Doesn't this sum up the shite, childish attitude of our media to politics?

https://x.com/PippaCrerar/status/1801207591894147367

A generation of f**king w**k political journalists who think there job is to make politics into some sort of light entertainment cack.

And then complain when we get w**k entertainers for politicians.

And THEN complain when someone just tries to like... y'know...just competent at the job.

God knows I don't agree with everything Starmer has done and I DO think he is being too under ambitious.

But a boring, sober, steady hand will feel like the first step on the road back to a functional country after the play centre politics of the past decade.