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Some mind-blowing projections being published by Electoral Calculus tonight.Seat projection: LAB: 476 CON: 66LD: 59 Green: 2Reform: 0Under this projection, James Cleverly, Penny Mourdant, Kemi Badenoch, and Jacob Rees-Mogg would all lose their seats. While we're still 5 weeks away from polling day, Electoral Calculus were accurate in predicting the outcome of the 2019 at a similar stage in the campaign.
Politics is becoming far more unstable, everywhereSumat is up.
Quote from: albie on May 31, 2024, 03:35:59 pmKeith is just the front man, the Labour machine is run by Morgan McSweeney in HQ.They have decided to put a lid on the comms disaster for now.After the GE, they will concoct a pretext to isolate Abbott.Same tactics used against Lloyd Russell-Moyle and Shaheen.Next targets will probably be Apsana Begum and Dawn Butler, unless they get cold feet after this foul up.Don't forgot only last Friday Keith was briefing the media that DA was subject to an ongoing investigation, awaiting conclusion...now seen to be clearly untrue.I’ve not heard of Morgan McSweeney.Is he the Labour version of Cummings, who was apparently running the country when Boris was PM.
Keith is just the front man, the Labour machine is run by Morgan McSweeney in HQ.They have decided to put a lid on the comms disaster for now.After the GE, they will concoct a pretext to isolate Abbott.Same tactics used against Lloyd Russell-Moyle and Shaheen.Next targets will probably be Apsana Begum and Dawn Butler, unless they get cold feet after this foul up.Don't forgot only last Friday Keith was briefing the media that DA was subject to an ongoing investigation, awaiting conclusion...now seen to be clearly untrue.
Quote from: drfchound on May 31, 2024, 04:12:25 pmQuote from: albie on May 31, 2024, 03:35:59 pmKeith is just the front man, the Labour machine is run by Morgan McSweeney in HQ.They have decided to put a lid on the comms disaster for now.After the GE, they will concoct a pretext to isolate Abbott.Same tactics used against Lloyd Russell-Moyle and Shaheen.Next targets will probably be Apsana Begum and Dawn Butler, unless they get cold feet after this foul up.Don't forgot only last Friday Keith was briefing the media that DA was subject to an ongoing investigation, awaiting conclusion...now seen to be clearly untrue.I’ve not heard of Morgan McSweeney.Is he the Labour version of Cummings, who was apparently running the country when Boris was PM.Morgan Mcsweeney is former Labour Chief of Staff, now Director of Campaigns since 2021.He was involved with a strategy think tank called "Labour Together", which acts as a conduit between sponsors and the party policy development;https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/keir-starmer-prime-minister-morgan-mcsweeney-investigation-65fnh8zrtFull article here;https://archive.ph/AeaRSIt is a bit like the "Tufton St" network of paid influencers who advise the Tories, and shape the policy agenda.Mcsweeney is seen as the organ grinder behind the monkey Keith, and is comparable to Alastair Campbell or Peter Mandelson, pulling the strings off stage.This article by Peter Oborne sets out his view of the Labour shenanikins;https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/keir-starmer-drawing-terrifying-blueprint-uk
If you read the Oborne article in Middle East Eye, you will see that the selfish agenda is being pursued by the Starmerroids, Sproty.The most chilling section is where Oborne says that:"A new clause has been added to the Labour rulebook, which reads: “Neither the principles of natural justice nor the provisions of fairness … shall apply to the termination of party membership.” This is astonishing in what claims to be a democratic party."Quite so, and it is strange that Labour supporters are not up in arms about this.They appear to be saying that the new Labour rules over-ride the laws of the UK, a ridiculous suggestion.
Prohibited acts, BST.What is your point?This earlier article by Oborne links through to the Labour rulebook;https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/uk-labour-starmer-authoritarianism-alarm-bells-ringing"Neither the principles of natural justice northe provisions of fairness in Chapter 2, ClauseII.8 shall apply to the termination of Partymembership pursuant to Chapter 2, ClausesI.4.A and C."This is presumably what Faiza Shaheen is taking legal advice about.Shaheen was criticised for a retweet of a post that refers to the Israeli lobby. The existence of that lobby is a historical fact, and has been evident for many years past.Wait for it to litigate out.Which Labour rule has she broken, and is that rule itself lawful?
Interesting. Which party does this candidate support (zoom in on the text bottom left) - and people accuse Labour of being dishonest!!!https://x.com/theobertram/status/1796880844667109642
If you read the Oborne article in Middle East Eye, you will see that the selfish agenda is being pursued by the Starmerroids, Sproty.The most chilling section is where Oborne says that:"A new clause has been added to the Labour rulebook, which reads: “Neither the principles of natural justice nor the provisions of fairness … shall apply to the termination of party membership.” This is astonishing in what claims to be a democratic party."Quite so, and it is strange that Labour supporters are not up in arms about this.They appear to be saying that the new Labour rules over-ride the laws of the UK, a ridiculous suggestion.
Quote from: albie on June 01, 2024, 12:14:26 amQuote from: drfchound on May 31, 2024, 04:12:25 pmQuote from: albie on May 31, 2024, 03:35:59 pmKeith is just the front man, the Labour machine is run by Morgan McSweeney in HQ.They have decided to put a lid on the comms disaster for now.After the GE, they will concoct a pretext to isolate Abbott.Same tactics used against Lloyd Russell-Moyle and Shaheen.Next targets will probably be Apsana Begum and Dawn Butler, unless they get cold feet after this foul up.Don't forgot only last Friday Keith was briefing the media that DA was subject to an ongoing investigation, awaiting conclusion...now seen to be clearly untrue.I’ve not heard of Morgan McSweeney.Is he the Labour version of Cummings, who was apparently running the country when Boris was PM.Morgan Mcsweeney is former Labour Chief of Staff, now Director of Campaigns since 2021.He was involved with a strategy think tank called "Labour Together", which acts as a conduit between sponsors and the party policy development;https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/keir-starmer-prime-minister-morgan-mcsweeney-investigation-65fnh8zrtFull article here;https://archive.ph/AeaRSIt is a bit like the "Tufton St" network of paid influencers who advise the Tories, and shape the policy agenda.Mcsweeney is seen as the organ grinder behind the monkey Keith, and is comparable to Alastair Campbell or Peter Mandelson, pulling the strings off stage.This article by Peter Oborne sets out his view of the Labour shenanikins;https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/keir-starmer-drawing-terrifying-blueprint-ukIt’s good to see Labour getting rid of the discontented who all seem to be pursuing an different and clearly selfish agenda , but I will be voting Tory!
Quote from: drfchound on May 31, 2024, 04:12:25 pmQuote from: albie on May 31, 2024, 03:35:59 pmKeith is just the front man, the Labour machine is run by Morgan McSweeney in HQ.They have decided to put a lid on the comms disaster for now.After the GE, they will concoct a pretext to isolate Abbott.Same tactics used against Lloyd Russell-Moyle and Shaheen.Next targets will probably be Apsana Begum and Dawn Butler, unless they get cold feet after this foul up.Don't forgot only last Friday Keith was briefing the media that DA was subject to an ongoing investigation, awaiting conclusion...now seen to be clearly untrue.I’ve not heard of Morgan McSweeney.Is he the Labour version of Cummings, who was apparently running the country when Boris was PM.Morgan Mcsweeney is former Labour Chief of Staff, now Director of Campaigns since 2021.He was involved with a strategy think tank called "Labour Together", which acts as a conduit between sponsors and the party policy development;https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/keir-starmer-prime-minister-morgan-mcsweeney-investigation-65fnh8zrtFull article here;https://archive.ph/AeaRSIt is a bit like the "Tufton St" network of paid influencers who advise the Tories, and shape the policy agenda.Mcsweeney is seen as the organ grinder behind the monkey Keith, and is comparable to Alastair Campbell or Peter Mandelson, pulling the strings off stage.This article by Peter Oborne sets out his view of the Labour shenanikins;https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/keir-starmer-drawing-terrifying-blueprint-uk
And what are the "prohibited acts"?In your own time.
https://x.com/DerbysPolice/status/1797013089017106619
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on June 02, 2024, 12:25:24 amhttps://x.com/DerbysPolice/status/1797013089017106619 Seems Robert Largan has previous https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-66742672
Quote from: Not Now Kato on June 02, 2024, 03:03:14 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on June 02, 2024, 12:25:24 amhttps://x.com/DerbysPolice/status/1797013089017106619 Seems Robert Largan has previous https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-66742672Wow! “Off with his Head!”
BST,Your post 352 seems to be based on a complete misunderstanding of the point Oborne is making.Oborne is talking about the revisions which apply to MEMBERSHIP.Shaheen has been excluded from CANDIDACY, but her membership remains in place. By the logic of your first point, are you saying that the inclusion of Tory defectors, like Natalie Elphicke or Christian Wakeford, meet those membership criteria?Or Luciana Berger, who stood for the LibDems against Labour?Consider the reasons given for the removal of Faiza Shaheen as a Labour candidate.Liking tweets referring to the Green Party before she joined Labour, or retweeting a comedy sketch about the Israeli lobby, or commenting on her own experience of Islamophobia in Labour.Now read the rules again, and point out the specific offence that means an automatic exclusion from being a candidate.Not her membership, which is still valid, but her candidacy supported by her local party.What is the "prohibited act" that is proven, and leads to disqualification as a CANDIDATE?Is any such "prohibited act" lawfully included in the rulebook, and consistent with UK legislation on natural justice?I have an open mind, I consider this unproven until it has been tested in the courts.In your own time.
The most chilling section is where Oborne says that:"A new clause has been added to the Labour rulebook, which reads: “Neither the principles of natural justice nor the provisions of fairness … shall apply to the termination of party membership.” This is astonishing in what claims to be a democratic party."
They appear to be saying that the new Labour rules over-ride the laws of the UK, a ridiculous suggestion.