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Sprotyrover

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Re: General Election
« Reply #660 on June 09, 2024, 08:53:10 pm by Sprotyrover »
What is funny is that France has gone into meltdown tonight due to issues of Illegal Immigration!
Vote foe Starmer is a vote for the floodgates being opened!



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Filo

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Re: General Election
« Reply #661 on June 09, 2024, 09:06:28 pm by Filo »
Good news

They've brought back The Day Today!

https://x.com/christiancalgie/status/1799859124047593566

Oh dear, it looks like he was going to burst into tears, looking at his advisor with the sad eyes to bail him out

Bristol Red Rover

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Re: General Election
« Reply #662 on June 09, 2024, 09:17:36 pm by Bristol Red Rover »
A more intelligent discussion would talk about the tax increases already baked in, and what the parties propose to do in response.

Resolution Foundation take summarised in the FT;
https://archive.ph/DqKAq

All we have is posturing fools dedicated to avoiding hard questions.
Vote for us and we will do something we haven't told you about, after the election.

Yes Albie.

But as some left-leaning politician once said, "We all know which policies are the best. What we don't know is how to campaign on those and get elected."
Why not just lie to the electorate with more right-wing policies than intended, and then change to more left-wing policies once elected, like you want Labour to do?

I suggested a few months ago that the main ideological opposition to Starmer in this country could be from further left. With Labour on track to win so many seats it doesn’t sound so silly now.

With the main pressure on the self-professed socialist Starmer coming from inside his own party could we see a creep towards something that the electorate didn’t vote for?

If that does happen (spoiler: it won't) then he can be held to account by the electorate in 5 years time. That's kinda how democracy works.
Or, if that does happen,  then he can be held to account by the electorate in 5 years time... with the media paid off saying it didn't happen. Or maybe it doesn't happen, but the media etc weren't paid off enough,  so they say it did happen.

That's how UK "democracy" works.

albie

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Re: General Election
« Reply #663 on June 10, 2024, 12:23:56 am by albie »
It would be good if UK media actually asked the Sunak/Starmer consortium what will happen if the new government fails to increase taxes?
The answer of course is best avoided.

It would mean either:
1) further severe cuts to public services, to a similar level that austerity brought, or
2) borrowing to support "day to day spending", which means the idiotic "fiscal rule" of reducing public debt by year 5 cannot be met.

Either way, not a good look if you want to smile for the camera.

Conspiracy of silence on this across the board.

big fat yorkshire pudding

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Re: General Election
« Reply #664 on June 10, 2024, 08:21:41 am by big fat yorkshire pudding »
Labour announced a policy on free breakfast clubs for all kids. I like that, I'd love to send my kids but it's £5 each a day at our school which I refuse to pay for a slice of toast.  Cannot see how schools have space for it though.

MachoMadness

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Re: General Election
« Reply #665 on June 10, 2024, 12:47:49 pm by MachoMadness »
Just another normal day on the campaign trail.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjmmrwexv4ko

Glyn_Wigley

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Re: General Election
« Reply #666 on June 10, 2024, 01:25:14 pm by Glyn_Wigley »
Yet another Tory shambles. Are they trying to deliberately lose?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ceddenl8xz4o

BillyStubbsTears

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Re: General Election
« Reply #667 on June 10, 2024, 01:37:36 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
Just another normal day on the campaign trail.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjmmrwexv4ko

"Candidate for fascist party supports fascist" is hardly news is it.

Fascinating how the Faragists get a free pass from the media on this.

Farage was lauding the bravery of the D-Day vets just the other day.

And yet.

They risked and gave there lives as part of the struggle to stop an ethno-fascist dictator from dominating Europe.

Today we have another ethno-fascist dictator whose stated aim is to dominate Europe. And Farage is on record as saying he's the leader he most admires in the world.

Vote for him if you want folks. But have the self-respect to know what you are voting for.

selby

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Re: General Election
« Reply #668 on June 10, 2024, 02:12:20 pm by selby »
  Billy you really want to pull in calling everyone you don't agree with a Fascist it just makes you look like a third rate Commy  from the KGB.

Ldr

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Re: General Election
« Reply #669 on June 10, 2024, 02:28:46 pm by Ldr »
  Billy you really want to pull in calling everyone you don't agree with a Fascist it just makes you look like a third rate Commy  from the KGB.

Facists!, facists and racists everywhere!!!!!

BillyStubbsTears

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Re: General Election
« Reply #670 on June 10, 2024, 02:30:19 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
Selby.
I get that you have difficulty forming coherent thoughts when you address me. But if you actually read what I write, you'll see I don't call everyone who disagrees with me "fascist". Just the fascist ones. Like Putin. Like his admirer, Farage. And like the would-be Hitler appeaser, yer man Gribbin here.

BillyStubbsTears

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Re: General Election
« Reply #671 on June 10, 2024, 02:42:55 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
Here's Farage 2 and a bit years ago. As Putin was preparing to invade a sovereign country.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtUwrtDanck

There's Farage saying the solution was to give the politician he admires more than any other in the world, exactly what he wanted.

Almost as if...

Bentley Bullet

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Re: General Election
« Reply #672 on June 10, 2024, 03:20:56 pm by Bentley Bullet »
Funny how the majority of folk on here voted for this fella in 2019.

“This war is disastrous for the people of Ukraine, for the people of Russia, and for the safety and security of the whole world, and therefore there has to be much more effort put into peace.”

J Corbyn.

selby

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Re: General Election
« Reply #673 on June 10, 2024, 03:24:43 pm by selby »
No billy I'm not having it, your not choosy, anyone who has a different opinion is a fascist to you, your a died in the wool commy who throws the word and its meaning about when you disagree with someone politically, like a small kid wanting a sweetie after being naughty and told no.

Herbert Anchovy

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Re: General Election
« Reply #674 on June 10, 2024, 04:18:41 pm by Herbert Anchovy »
To be fair, having just read what this Reform candidate is reported to have said, 'Fascist' seems to be a fairly accurate description in this instance.

SydneyRover

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Re: General Election
« Reply #675 on June 10, 2024, 04:23:02 pm by SydneyRover »
Labour announced a policy on free breakfast clubs for all kids. I like that, I'd love to send my kids but it's £5 each a day at our school which I refuse to pay for a slice of toast.  Cannot see how schools have space for it though.

I agree with you there pud 5 quid for a slice ofr dry toast ffs.

Herbert Anchovy

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Re: General Election
« Reply #676 on June 10, 2024, 05:01:43 pm by Herbert Anchovy »
I had a quick gander at the main points of the Liberals manifesto earlier. As you'd expect its very tight on Rights, Equality and Political reform. I like the sound of it & it's quite a pity they won't get anywhere near power.

danumdon

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Re: General Election
« Reply #677 on June 10, 2024, 05:31:08 pm by danumdon »
Labour announced a policy on free breakfast clubs for all kids. I like that, I'd love to send my kids but it's £5 each a day at our school which I refuse to pay for a slice of toast.  Cannot see how schools have space for it though.

I agree with you there pud 5 quid for a slice ofr dry toast ffs.

It was even worse than that, when asked repeatdly this morning the Shadow schools spokeswoman could not give an answer as to how many places would be provided in the scheme, also asked about how many kids are currently in public schools, did not have a Scooby, so no idea of the possibility of numbers to be catered and planned for in the state sector when they start to dismantle that system. When asked how they would pay for the additional staff required for the scheme same again did not even attempt to answer the question sensibly, saying something about some schools would provide it via teachers and others would require additional staff. Yea, teachers working extra hours for nothing (in who's world)

Sounds to me like something that's been quickly rushed out after being scribbled on the back of a fag pocket.

And this is current Labour policy? what have they been doing for 14 years except whinging constantly on a regular basis?

She made Diane Abbott sound like a PhD student.

Iberian Red

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Re: General Election
« Reply #678 on June 10, 2024, 05:33:35 pm by Iberian Red »
It seems to be female opposition politicians you always get enraged  by DD.
I wonder why?

wilts rover

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Re: General Election
« Reply #679 on June 10, 2024, 05:40:09 pm by wilts rover »
Fasciniating how someone criticises a Reform candidate for saying Britain should have made peace with Hitler - and some posters criticise the poster rather than the Nazi apologist.

It's almost as if they were...

danumdon

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Re: General Election
« Reply #680 on June 10, 2024, 05:42:00 pm by danumdon »
It seems to be female opposition politicians you always get enraged  by DD.
I wonder why?

Nowt to do with sex fella, if their incompetent and useless then they will be called out on it.

Why do you always come across as a dirty, seedy old man?

I wonder why?

wilts rover

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Re: General Election
« Reply #681 on June 10, 2024, 07:04:07 pm by wilts rover »
Why will a 20% fee increase in publc schools under Labour cause pupils to leave public schools - when a 30% fee increase under the Tories didn't?

https://x.com/RussInCheshire/status/1800063753314287929

DonnyOsmond

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Re: General Election
« Reply #682 on June 10, 2024, 07:09:01 pm by DonnyOsmond »
Funny how the majority of folk on here voted for this fella in 2019.

“This war is disastrous for the people of Ukraine, for the people of Russia, and for the safety and security of the whole world, and therefore there has to be much more effort put into peace.”

J Corbyn.

Omg I can't believe he said that!!!1!!!

I don't get it? What's wrong with wanting peace in the world? When did pacifists become the extremists?

Iberian Red

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Re: General Election
« Reply #683 on June 10, 2024, 07:15:33 pm by Iberian Red »
It seems to be female opposition politicians you always get enraged  by DD.
I wonder why?

Nowt to do with sex fella, if their incompetent and useless then they will be called out on it.

Why do you always come across as a dirty, seedy old man?

I wonder why?

Stubbed your toe and touched a nerve perhaps?

Why do you come a cross as a such a mys
ah,forget it

danumdon

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Re: General Election
« Reply #684 on June 10, 2024, 07:17:37 pm by danumdon »
Why will a 20% fee increase in publc schools under Labour cause pupils to leave public schools - when a 30% fee increase under the Tories didn't?

https://x.com/RussInCheshire/status/1800063753314287929

Well you and your like have been having your fill of slating everything that's been wrecked by this current government, could it be that this final straw could break the camels back.

Or will it be ok for them because they have some extra cash that they scrimped and saved for to educate their kids?

Iberian Red

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Re: General Election
« Reply #685 on June 10, 2024, 07:19:19 pm by Iberian Red »
That really doesn't make sense.
Spend a bit of time and read back what you posted.

danumdon

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Re: General Election
« Reply #686 on June 10, 2024, 07:21:18 pm by danumdon »
It seems to be female opposition politicians you always get enraged  by DD.
I wonder why?

Nowt to do with sex fella, if their incompetent and useless then they will be called out on it.

Why do you always come across as a dirty, seedy old man?

I wonder why?

Stubbed your toe and touched a nerve perhaps?

Why do you come a cross as a such a mys
ah,forget it

Don't be shy now fella , lets hear what you have to say so we can all see what type of person you really are and how you think, lets all have our say, i'm quite sure most would agree with me about you and your seedy attitude.

If you like we could run a poll?

Iberian Red

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Re: General Election
« Reply #687 on June 10, 2024, 07:23:08 pm by Iberian Red »
It seems to be female opposition politicians you always get enraged  by DD.
I wonder why?

Nowt to do with sex fella, if their incompetent and useless then they will be called out on it.

Why do you always come across as a dirty, seedy old man?

I wonder why?

Stubbed your toe and touched a nerve perhaps?

Why do you come a cross as a such a mys
ah,forget it

Don't be shy now fella , lets hear what you have to say so we can all see what type of person you really are and how you think, lets all have our say, i'm quite sure most would agree with me about you and your seedy attitude.

If you like we could run a poll?

Are you looking for the cavalry to back you up lad?

Iberian Red

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Re: General Election
« Reply #688 on June 10, 2024, 07:25:23 pm by Iberian Red »
You have posted so many misogynistic contributions on here that Sid the Sexist looks up to you.
Yet you call me seedy.
Give up.

danumdon

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Re: General Election
« Reply #689 on June 10, 2024, 07:26:06 pm by danumdon »
It seems to be female opposition politicians you always get enraged  by DD.
I wonder why?

Nowt to do with sex fella, if their incompetent and useless then they will be called out on it.

Why do you always come across as a dirty, seedy old man?

I wonder why?

Stubbed your toe and touched a nerve perhaps?

Why do you come a cross as a such a mys
ah,forget it

Don't be shy now fella , lets hear what you have to say so we can all see what type of person you really are and how you think, lets all have our say, i'm quite sure most would agree with me about you and your seedy attitude.

If you like we could run a poll?

Are you looking for the cavalry to back you up lad?

Not at all, just calling you out as some weird old perv, shall we ask all your "mates" on here what they think about you?

 

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