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Quote from: ncRover on June 20, 2024, 03:41:48 pmI am surprised nobody has mentioned this.Reform's promises are looking incredibly unrealistic. Perhaps journalists should stop asking Farage about something he is strong on (immigration) and start to question him on the costing of his manifesto. If those voting for him are interested.https://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=291466.msg1323177#msg1323177That's Farage's strategy.Lie, but lie with great confidence. And assume that half of those who support you are too thick to realise you're lying and the other half knows you are but will still support you anyway.
I am surprised nobody has mentioned this.Reform's promises are looking incredibly unrealistic. Perhaps journalists should stop asking Farage about something he is strong on (immigration) and start to question him on the costing of his manifesto. If those voting for him are interested.
Sounds like an interest rate cut will be coming in August. Lucky Starmer!
Quote from: ncRover on June 20, 2024, 03:29:54 pmSounds like an interest rate cut will be coming in August. Lucky Starmer!Yep just in time to soften the blow that will be coming after Labour start to help themselves to your savings and investments.Im just waiting for the bombshell that will explode in a great many households when they realise that Labour's manifesto commitments that look nice and controlled, morph into huge revaluations of council tax, reduced pensions freedoms, limits on your isa's savings and an absolute kidnapping if you have the temerity to sell your house that may have gained a few quid in value.Its going to be this sly and underhanded approach that will really hit home to a great many who have been sensible with their finances.If your in a position, get out of dodge before they absolutely fleece us all.
spiral of ever increasing poverty. And then there is the discontent with that to pay for - benefits, violence, crime, and the health effects which are massive
What the hell is this?https://x.com/conservatives/status/1803364858022281700?s=46
Come on, capital gains is not for your average homeowner, you know that. Basic BS there.
Quote from: danumdon on June 20, 2024, 04:02:28 pmQuote from: ncRover on June 20, 2024, 03:29:54 pmSounds like an interest rate cut will be coming in August. Lucky Starmer!Yep just in time to soften the blow that will be coming after Labour start to help themselves to your savings and investments.Im just waiting for the bombshell that will explode in a great many households when they realise that Labour's manifesto commitments that look nice and controlled, morph into huge revaluations of council tax, reduced pensions freedoms, limits on your isa's savings and an absolute kidnapping if you have the temerity to sell your house that may have gained a few quid in value.Its going to be this sly and underhanded approach that will really hit home to a great many who have been sensible with their finances.If your in a position, get out of dodge before they absolutely fleece us all.Whereas everything has been hunky dory this last decade and a half?
Quote from: Bristol Red Rover on June 20, 2024, 04:15:14 pmspiral of ever increasing poverty. And then there is the discontent with that to pay for - benefits, violence, crime, and the health effects which are massive Sounds like socialist Venezuela.If you have any research studies that show socialism has greater long-term outcomes for poor people than capitalism then please, be my guest.
Quote from: Bristol Red Rover on June 20, 2024, 04:07:13 pmCome on, capital gains is not for your average homeowner, you know that. Basic BS there. Whats an average homeowner?
Quote from: danumdon on June 20, 2024, 04:32:02 pmQuote from: Bristol Red Rover on June 20, 2024, 04:07:13 pmCome on, capital gains is not for your average homeowner, you know that. Basic BS there. Whats an average homeowner?Come on... It's someone living in their home. As opposed to someone buying to let, or having a holiday home, or building a portfolio of properties. Are you pitying them? Either way, why be lying about this?
DD.How much do you want to bet that CGT on house sales will not be introduced for people whose dwelling place is anything remotely close to the average price?Your call. You keep up this constant stream of moaning about things you expect to happen. Walk the walk then.
This thing about Tories close to Sunak betting on the election date.Apart from it being illegal.And immoral.How f**king stupid must they be to have thought they'd get away with it?These are the best the Tories can put forward. Thick as mince criminals.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on June 20, 2024, 04:36:44 pmDD.How much do you want to bet that CGT on house sales will not be introduced for people whose dwelling place is anything remotely close to the average price?Your call. You keep up this constant stream of moaning about things you expect to happen. Walk the walk then.BST, will you along with the vast majority of voters be happy to see a substantial increase in the amount of tax's you will be paying if after the event you notice nothing has been improved ?Are we all going to be expected to keep pouring more cash into bottomless pits for no discernable improvements?
Quote from: Bristol Red Rover on June 20, 2024, 04:36:14 pmQuote from: danumdon on June 20, 2024, 04:32:02 pmQuote from: Bristol Red Rover on June 20, 2024, 04:07:13 pmCome on, capital gains is not for your average homeowner, you know that. Basic BS there. Whats an average homeowner?Come on... It's someone living in their home. As opposed to someone buying to let, or having a holiday home, or building a portfolio of properties. Are you pitying them? Either way, why be lying about this?I know people who became disillusioned with getting their pensions savings fleeced from every type of government that decided to invest their pensions savings into BTL instead to tide them over when reaching retirement.These are just ordinary people who just happened to invest their pensions into BTL, are we to castigate these people because they took the chance and oppertunity to look after themselves?Its a bit of misnomer to talk about average homeowners.
Explain to me TS, which proposed or likely Labour tax policy will penalise people owning their own home?
Quote from: danumdon on June 20, 2024, 04:53:40 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on June 20, 2024, 04:36:44 pmDD.How much do you want to bet that CGT on house sales will not be introduced for people whose dwelling place is anything remotely close to the average price?Your call. You keep up this constant stream of moaning about things you expect to happen. Walk the walk then.BST, will you along with the vast majority of voters be happy to see a substantial increase in the amount of tax's you will be paying if after the event you notice nothing has been improved ?Are we all going to be expected to keep pouring more cash into bottomless pits for no discernable improvements?Do you accept thata) public services improved beyond recognition under the last Labour GovtAndb) Taxes did not go up dramatically?If you don't, I'd love to hear why not.If you do, why do you think Labour would be so bad this time?What's happened is that we've had quite spectacular economic mismanagement from the Tories, resulting in the highest taxes since the War and a collapse of public services.And all you can do is complain about things that the incoming Labour Govt absolutely will not do.I'll ask again since you raised the issue.Will you put your money where your mouth is on the subject of CGT on dwellings?YOU raised that point. Address it or stop whining.
Quote from: Bristol Red Rover on June 20, 2024, 06:06:11 pmExplain to me TS, which proposed or likely Labour tax policy will penalise people owning their own home?Buying a house ? TAXED Selling a house after its risen in value? TAXED Worked hard and bought a house deemed too big? MANSION TAX gift to kids to help them to buy. TAXED. Labour just want to tax everyone into oblivion so that everyone is poor.
Whichever way you vote, it doesn't matter. There is no real vision or game plan from any part of the political spectrum. All the party leaders must be reading from Southgate's play book. Politics and football are p**s poor at the moment. Roll on the start of the new season...