General Election

[BillyStubbsTears]

Explains a lot on why one person in this forum seems to have become unhinged over Starmer.

https://x.com/redhistorian/status/1807322495562719612

[BillyStubbsTears]

Explains a lot on why one person in this forum seems to have become unhinged over Starmer.

https://x.com/redhistorian/status/1807322495562719612

We've got f**k all to over after 14 years of catastrophe, so let's try panicking a few vulnerable pensioners into voting for us.

[Herbert Anchovy]

Angela raynor "every borough will have to take its fair share of immigrants"

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/06/26/labour-every-uk-borough-must-take-fair-share-migrants/

I bet that odious cretin doesn't take any in her neck of the woods.

Get ready for the flood gates to open, like they first did under Tony Bliar.

Get ready for longer hospital waiting times.
Get ready for it being harder to get a GP appointment
Get ready for overcrowded schools
Get ready for the emergency services stretched to breaking point.
Get ready for constant gridlock on our road network
Get ready for tax hikes.
Get ready for sharia law in areas.
Get ready for more overcrowded trains
Get ready for rampant anti semitism being normalised

But this is the biggy for me, if you've worked hard all your life and saved for your retirement, our your kids university tuition etc. Then for the love of God DO NOT vote Labour, because they will just think that money is theirs.

ANYONE but labour, think about it, don't let those scum get in power!

Anyone but Labour?? You’ve basically produced a list that largely describes the country now!!

[Herbert Anchovy]

It’s fascinating hearing how each political party has positioned themselves in the last week of the campaign. It seems to go something like this:

Labour - Don’t cause too much of a fuss. Let the Tories destroy themselves as everyone knows they’re hopeless. .
Tories - We are hopeless but Labour will be even more hopeless
Lib Dems - everyone is hopeless but we are nice
Reform - Everything is the fault of people with brown skin.

[tommy toes]

Watched Sunak being interviewed by Kuennsberg.
He seems obsessed with tax. He’ll reduce tax, Labour will increase tax.
His mantra is that we’ll have a few quid more of our own money to spend or save.
What he doesn’t seem to realise is that people are more concerned with the NHS, basic public services, social care, pot holes, mortgages, housing, education etc.
Apart from that I thought he came across very well. Passionate and fighting his corner.
I hope he does well in his new job in the US.

[DonnyOsmond]

Angela raynor "every borough will have to take its fair share of immigrants"

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/06/26/labour-every-uk-borough-must-take-fair-share-migrants/

I bet that odious cretin doesn't take any in her neck of the woods.

Get ready for the flood gates to open, like they first did under Tony Bliar.

Get ready for longer hospital waiting times.
Get ready for it being harder to get a GP appointment
Get ready for overcrowded schools
Get ready for the emergency services stretched to breaking point.
Get ready for constant gridlock on our road network
Get ready for tax hikes.
Get ready for sharia law in areas.
Get ready for more overcrowded trains
Get ready for rampant anti semitism being normalised

But this is the biggy for me, if you've worked hard all your life and saved for your retirement, our your kids university tuition etc. Then for the love of God DO NOT vote Labour, because they will just think that money is theirs.

ANYONE but labour, think about it, don't let those scum get in power!

f**king hell. Sharia Law? You're gonna be daft enough to vote Reform, aren't ya?

[DonnyOsmond]

It’s fascinating hearing how each political party has positioned themselves in the last week of the campaign. It seems to go something like this:

Labour - Don’t cause too much of a fuss. Let the Tories destroy themselves as everyone knows they’re hopeless. .
Tories - We are hopeless but Labour will be even more hopeless
Lib Dems - everyone is hopeless but we are nice
Reform - Everything is the fault of people with brown skin.

Wonder if the Tories are coming round to realise that the country is in a state, they've been in denial until now. All the other parties can see it they just blame different people depending on the side they're on.

Labour, Greens, Lib Dems - Blame Austerity and also Brexit but you're not allowed to criticise the latter as it doesn't win votes.
Tories - Denies any problems with the country but any problems are the foreigners coming over on boats fault.
Reform - Anyone who isn't Englishs fault, especially them Muslims. This includes the Welsh and Scottish, f*ck em!

[Sprotyrover]

It was in a state when they took office mainly due to the last Labour Government, and they will be dishing up old sour recipes like PFI! The other culprits you seem to have missed out are the Chinese who caused Covid,and VLAD Putins Russia whose war has caused issues all over Europe!

[Colemans Left Hook]

What country isn't in a state ?   Answers please

In fact the whole world is in a state  especially Germany and it is NEVER going to get any better !

[DonnyOsmond]

It was in a state when they took office mainly due to the last Labour Government, and they will be dishing up old sour recipes like PFI! The other culprits you seem to have missed out are the Chinese who caused Covid,and VLAD Putins Russia whose war has caused issues all over Europe!

No it wasn't. Other than the effects of the Global financial crisis we were in a decent place as a country. Compare 2010 to 2019 (pre-covid) and the number of people needing food banks, people on NHS waiting list, etc have sky rocketed. Factual, not just opinions.

[Sprotyrover]

It was in a state when they took office mainly due to the last Labour Government, and they will be dishing up old sour recipes like PFI! The other culprits you seem to have missed out are the Chinese who caused Covid,and VLAD Putins Russia whose war has caused issues all over Europe!

No it wasn't. Other than the effects of the Global financial crisis we were in a decent place as a country. Compare 2010 to 2019 (pre-covid) and the number of people needing food banks, people on NHS waiting list, etc have sky rocketed. Factual, not just opinions.
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Foodbanks ? Like the bloke my lad went to see about an incident he had his entire arm covered in clingfilm
Had just spent £350 on a Tatoo,” sorry can’t help you I got to get to food bank before it shuts”
How many more are there taking the Pish! Taking food out of the mouths of the really needy.!

[BillyStubbsTears]

State of this.

https://x.com/Gilesyb/status/1807146033203540060

Jenrick, the bloke who fiddled the Towns Fund has some brass neck about him.

"Labour will transform us to a high immigration, low growth country."

You know that theory that sociopaths most criticise in others what they know are their own worst failings...

[SydneyRover]

BEWARE OF LABOUR SUPERMAJORITY .............. we can still win

[SydneyRover]

It was in a state when they took office mainly due to the last Labour Government, and they will be dishing up old sour recipes like PFI! The other culprits you seem to have missed out are the Chinese who caused Covid,and VLAD Putins Russia whose war has caused issues all over Europe!

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[SydneyRover]

''Boris Johnson takes swipe at Starmer and scorns Sunak in first campaign appearance
Ex-PM claims Labour will be ‘most leftwing government since the war’ at Tory election rally in National Army Museum''

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jul/02/boris-johnson-makes-first-tory-election-campaign-appearance

Albie, can you speak to this?

[tyke1962]

''Boris Johnson takes swipe at Starmer and scorns Sunak in first campaign appearance
Ex-PM claims Labour will be ‘most leftwing government since the war’ at Tory election rally in National Army Museum''

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jul/02/boris-johnson-makes-first-tory-election-campaign-appearance

Albie, can you speak to this?

You've started to take what Johnson says as fact now ?

Aye

[drfchound]

Come on Syd, be true to type.
You know what a liar Johnson is.
Or are you doing what you did when Cummings became a turncoat, that is believing that he is telling the truth when what he says suits your cause.

[SydneyRover]

''Boris Johnson takes swipe at Starmer and scorns Sunak in first campaign appearance
Ex-PM claims Labour will be ‘most leftwing government since the war’ at Tory election rally in National Army Museum''

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jul/02/boris-johnson-makes-first-tory-election-campaign-appearance

Albie, can you speak to this?

You've started to take what Johnson says as fact now ?

Aye

Recognising fact would be a new string to your bow tyke?

[albie]

New YouGov poll of why people are voting Labour is interesting;
https://nitter.poast.org/pic/orig/media%2FGRjt-SLX0AA4BcP.jpg

It does suggest support is very broad, but also very shallow.
It won't take much to tip up the seesaw!

[i_ateallthepies]

New YouGov poll of why people are voting Labour is interesting;
https://nitter.poast.org/pic/orig/media%2FGRjt-SLX0AA4BcP.jpg

It does suggest support is very broad, but also very shallow.
It won't take much to tip up the seesaw!

You can live alone in deluded hope, albie.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Whatever the outcome tomorrow, at least we'll be seeing the back of an MP so dense that light bends around him.

Farewell John Redwood. Your final babbling in the Telegraph is a masterpiece. "Brexit is a great success". Over a picture of lorries queuing up to get through border checks at Dover. The bitter irony will not even register in your head.

Now f**k off.

[albie]

Pies,

What is your point?
If you disagree with the YouGov poll, give reasons why.

[Bristol Red Rover]

Whatever the outcome tomorrow, at least we'll be seeing the back of an MP so dense that light bends around him.

Farewell John Redwood. Your final babbling in the Telegraph is a masterpiece. "Brexit is a great success". Over a picture of lorries queuing up to get through border checks at Dover. The bitter irony will not even register in your head.

Now f**k off.

Class comment! 

[TonySoprano]

State of this.

https://x.com/Gilesyb/status/1807146033203540060

Jenrick, the bloke who fiddled the Towns Fund has some brass neck about him.

"Labour will transform us to a high immigration, low growth country."

You know that theory that sociopaths most criticise in others what they know are their own worst failings...

He's dead right though.

[TonySoprano]

What's the predictions for how well reform will do. I think it will be a pleasant surprise, more than the current predictions of between 5 and 10 million votes and between 5 and 10 seats.

[BillyStubbsTears]

State of this.

https://x.com/Gilesyb/status/1807146033203540060

Jenrick, the bloke who fiddled the Towns Fund has some brass neck about him.

"Labour will transform us to a high immigration, low growth country."

You know that theory that sociopaths most criticise in others what they know are their own worst failings...

He's dead right though.

Embarrassing to have to spell it out, but have you seen growth and immigration figures over the spell of this Government. HIS Government has done precisely what they say Labour will do!

[BillyStubbsTears]

If RefUK get more than ten million votes, I will chew my left bollock off.

[i_ateallthepies]

Pies,

What is your point?
If you disagree with the YouGov poll, give reasons why.

From your constant whining since 2019 at anything and everything Starmer for a start.  Then with less than 24 hours to polling day you quote a line which presents two parallel characteristics of a poll and can only bring yourself to comment on the bit that brings solace to your obsessive desire to see Starmer fail.  You are one bitter individual.

[albie]

Pies,

What is striking from the YouGov poll is the overwhelming urge to be rid of the Tories.
There is very weak support for Labour beyond that primary objective.

Once Labour win the GE tomorrow, that main reason is satisfied.
So after that, it is how much traction the Labour offer has as the government puts into practiice the manifesto.

Perfectly possible of course that Starmer junks the manifesto in short order...its job done.
It seems to me that a lack of enthusiasm for further cuts and privatisations will be a problem going forwards.

I think we will see within a year or so.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Just a thought, given that Labour's 1997 manifesto was very light on detail.

Do you think a major reason why Blair won in 1997 was that people were sick of the mess that the Tories were?

And hey! Here's a thought. Do you reckon in 2010, people voted for Cameron out of a joyous expectation that he was going to usher in the worst decade of growth and living standard improvements since Napoleon ruled Europe? Or do you think they might have been fed up with Labour?

And back in 1979, did people vote for Thatcher because she said she'd see to it that we had 21% inflation, then 4 million on the dole? Or do you think they might have been ready to see the back of Labour after the Winter of Discontent.

First rule of politics. Oppositions don't win elections. Governments lose them when people's patience with their inadequacies snap. The YG poll says nothing that wouldn't have been said most times a long-serving Govt is kicked out.