Viking Site Opinion Poll

[Bentley Bullet]

End of play, day 4.

Labour 42 (55.3%)
Reform 15 (19.7%)
Green 6 (7.9%)
Conservative 5 (6.6%)
Lib Dem 5 (6.6%)
Other 3 (3.9%)

Total Members Voted: 76

[Iberian Red]

Come on,admit who is the daft facker that has multiple voted for the Tories?

[normal rules]

Liebore have lost a vote

[Bentley Bullet]

Looks like Labour has lost one to Reform!

[mugnapper]

Where do I apply for a Postal Vote?
And can you send me a hundred in case I make a mistake?

[Bentley Bullet]

It looks like the majority have made a mistake so you wouldn't be alone.

[drfchound]

Maybe some people are pissing about with the voting.
Perhaps the poll shouldn’t have the option of removing the vote, it can’t be done during the election.
Once someone has voted they have to live with the consequences.

[wilts rover]

Maybe some people are pissing about with the voting.
Perhaps the poll shouldn’t have the option of removing the vote, it can’t be done during the election.
Once someone has voted they have to live with the consequences.

People on this site not telling the truth hound - shocked I am...

[Bentley Bullet]

The idea of thread was partly to see if debates influenced opinions, hence the option to change vote.

So far it looks like it does, albeit slightly.

[danumdon]

Ive not voted in the poll, i would prefer to read the party manifestos to see what we're about to be "promised" this time.

But after watching that complete waste of time last night i don't have any great hopes for our democracy.

[Filo]

It’s fun swapping votes and watching the giddiness

[Sprotyrover]

It’s fun swapping votes and watching the giddiness

Maybe if someone has the time they can do some Bulltt points of each parties Manifesto, a big ask but I do know some of our members like that sort of thing,
Tories, Defence Tax Cuts and, National service.Labour
Defence no tax cuts, tax increases on high earners which equates to anyone paying 40%, SNP High taxes, Re join Europe, independence from UK.
They seem to be the sort of things that spring to mind!

[SydneyRover]

Here's some sprot:

Tories

Rise in cost of living, interest rates.

Reduction in quality of water

Rise in NHS waiting list

Total f**k-up of policing.

Rise in court delays

Overcrowding in prisons

Reduction in quality of teaching

Reduction of school building maintenance

Happy for others to add to list

[drfchound]

Sprot asked for bullet points from Party manifestos, not wish lists from a Labour supporter.

[Iberian Red]

Fan boy.

[River Don]

Looks like the Greens have conceded one to the Tories also.

That's an odd switch.

Looks like the Greens have conceded one to the Tories also.

That's an odd switch.

Looks like the Greens have conceded one to the Tories also.

That's an odd switch.

Obviously a Green voter who is quite keen on exploiting North Sea fossil fuels as much as possible...

[Mike_F]

If this is the first TikTok election, you might be surprised at who's winning.

On the youngest, buzziest social media platform, Reform UK - whose vote tends somewhat towards the elderly - has the most followers, 125,500, just ahead of Labour on 108,500. (Dated 30 May)

124,000 bots, 500 mouth-breathers and 500 watching the car crash.

[Bentley Bullet]

End of play, day 7.

Labour 42 (53.8%)
Reform 16 (20.5%)
Green 6 (7.7%)
Conservative 5 (6.4%)
Lib Dem 5 (6.4%)
Other 4 (5.1%)

Total Members Voted: 78

Reform gains one vote!

[Mike_F]

Scary that 21% of us think we'll never be ill or unlucky enough to need healthcare.

[ncRover]

Scary that 21% of us think we'll never be ill or unlucky enough to need healthcare.

I’m not a Reform or Farage supporter but that’s quite misleading what you’ve just said there Mike.

Reform have been expressed interest in a “French-style” healthcare system that combines public funding with health insurance. The government generally refunds 70% of costs in France.

The WHO have said it provides some of the best healthcare in the world.

Although I’m baffled as to why Reform want to leave the WHO?? Very strange.

[Mike_F]

It's a slippery slope though. They know that they can't go to a US style system straight away so they need to get people onboard with paying health insurance on a smaller scale first. Then it's a gradual process to dismantle the NHS through actions like giving tax benefits to private providers (which is in the Reform manifesto), making it more attractive for healthcare professionals to leave NHS practice. Then the NHS becomes untenable so there is "no choice" but to go wholly private. That's the long game. And you can name your price on Farage, Tice et al being on the receiving end of some fat cheques from the private healthcare lobby.

[danumdon]

It's a slippery slope though. They know that they can't go to a US style system straight away so they need to get people onboard with paying health insurance on a smaller scale first. Then it's a gradual process to dismantle the NHS through actions like giving tax benefits to private providers (which is in the Reform manifesto), making it more attractive for healthcare professionals to leave NHS practice. Then the NHS becomes untenable so there is "no choice" but to go wholly private. That's the long game. And you can name your price on Farage, Tice et al being on the receiving end of some fat cheques from the private healthcare lobby.

The shadow health spokesman himself has pushed for more private interventions into the NHS

Im also quite sure that the private hospital in DRI is manned almost entirely by staff who also work for the NHS, so i very much doubt that these consultants,doctors and nurses will be leaving the NHS any time soon.

Seems to me that we are already on a trajectory towards private services running parallel within the NHS.

[Mike_F]

We do have private services in parallel with the NHS and that's freedom of choice in operation. What we shouldn't have is a system in which health insurance is mandatory.

[Herbert Anchovy]

With the appropriate controls in place I really don't see the issue in the NHS accessing support from the private sector. As our population ages even further, perhaps it's unrealistic for the NHS to deliver each stage of health care? For example, there's a few not for profit healthcare organisations that do already help out apparently.

It's when we get these people saying that parts of the NHS could/should be sold off and we move to an insurance based system that I worry. Reforms policy of reducing tax for private health firms is a concern for me.

[BillyStubbsTears]

It's a slippery slope though. They know that they can't go to a US style system straight away so they need to get people onboard with paying health insurance on a smaller scale first. Then it's a gradual process to dismantle the NHS through actions like giving tax benefits to private providers (which is in the Reform manifesto), making it more attractive for healthcare professionals to leave NHS practice. Then the NHS becomes untenable so there is "no choice" but to go wholly private. That's the long game. And you can name your price on Farage, Tice et al being on the receiving end of some fat cheques from the private healthcare lobby.

Farage was recorded 10 years ago giving a speech where he said he wanted us to go to an insurance system (i.e. American style).

He's a slippery f**ker. He's said what he actually believes many times over. Then when it comes back to bite him, he either denies he ever said it, or he says he's changed his mind.

Like f**k he has. But among he disciples, he's a straight up honest man. You do wonder how they don't get fleeced every time they leave the house.

[ravenrover]

A few years back I had a hernia op I was given the options of NHS hospitals in Mansfield or Newark or  a private hospital 2 miles from where I live, guess which one I picked

[SydneyRover]

The one nearest the bus stop?

[selby]

  Billy, just a couple of years ago Stabber Starmer backed Corbyn, before that he was leading groups including Saubry acrooss the channel to overturn a democratic vote by the people of this country.
  He has more faces than a diamond and will attach himself to any piece of sh*t until they are of no use to him, then comes out the old stiletto in the back.
  He is a Quisling of the highest order

[BillyStubbsTears]

Go on Selby. Close your eyes and squeeze really hard.

Big push.

Get it all out. You'll feel champion then.

[Mike_F]

Just giving this a bump to see if there's been any change of mind from the floating voters.