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[Herbert Anchovy]

20 of you, that’s nearly a quarter of those who’ve voted, have been charmed by a racist,Trump loving far right divisive bigot who only cares about himself and his bank balance.
Some people never learn.

What's he said that's racist?

Off the top of my head...

Claiming that Muslims don't share British values is fairly racist
Claiming that Muslims wanted to form a 'fifth column; to kill us all is fairly racist
Comparing the Black Lives Matter movement as a 'new Taliban' is fairly racist

All of these were a huge surprise to my Muslim and Black friends who've probably done more good for this country and the people in it that Farage ever has or will do.

Link to those quotes please in context?


I'll wait.

Tony,

Try searching:
"Farage, Muslims don't share British Values"
"Farage, Muslim Fifth Column"
"Farage Black Lives Matter, Taliban"

Let us know what you find AND let us know if you agree with it.

I'll wait

[TonySoprano]

20 of you, that’s nearly a quarter of those who’ve voted, have been charmed by a racist,Trump loving far right divisive bigot who only cares about himself and his bank balance.
Some people never learn.

What's he said that's racist?

Off the top of my head...

Claiming that Muslims don't share British values is fairly racist
Claiming that Muslims wanted to form a 'fifth column; to kill us all is fairly racist
Comparing the Black Lives Matter movement as a 'new Taliban' is fairly racist

All of these were a huge surprise to my Muslim and Black friends who've probably done more good for this country and the people in it that Farage ever has or will do.

Link to those quotes please in context?


I'll wait.

Tony,

Try searching:
"Farage, Muslims don't share British Values"
"Farage, Muslim Fifth Column"
"Farage Black Lives Matter, Taliban"

Let us know what you find AND let us know if you agree with it.

I'll wait

No, YOUR accusing him, so YOU prove it.

Still waiting

[Herbert Anchovy]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jun/25/undecided-voters-uk-general-election-polls


Seems like real people on the ground are still not convinced. Yet the opinion polls are screaming something else?

Ive spoken to people in my area who have been Tory voters in the past and not one of them has suggested that they will be voting Labour, its been mainly none of the above followed by a few reform and lib-dem.

We all know that their is a silent majority who don't want to advertise their preferences, certainly not to pollsters. but this still seems very irregular.

Seems like we will just have to wait to see what the true outcome will be, i'd be surprised if some of the recent media guestimates are anywhere near reality.

I agree that the polls do seem a bit extreme in terms of the level of the Labour victory. I don't think we'll see anything like the size of the majority some polls have predicted. Saying that, even a small Labour majority would be an incredible result given their starting position.

A friend of mine and his wife are lifelong Tories but are voting Labour this time. Fairly reluctantly to be fair as they feel politically homeless being centre right traditionally. They feel the Tories have gone too far to the right, Lib Dems as a wasted vote and Reform as an extremist party.

[Herbert Anchovy]

20 of you, that’s nearly a quarter of those who’ve voted, have been charmed by a racist,Trump loving far right divisive bigot who only cares about himself and his bank balance.
Some people never learn.

What's he said that's racist?

Off the top of my head...

Claiming that Muslims don't share British values is fairly racist
Claiming that Muslims wanted to form a 'fifth column; to kill us all is fairly racist
Comparing the Black Lives Matter movement as a 'new Taliban' is fairly racist

All of these were a huge surprise to my Muslim and Black friends who've probably done more good for this country and the people in it that Farage ever has or will do.

Link to those quotes please in context?


I'll wait.

Tony,

Try searching:
"Farage, Muslims don't share British Values"
"Farage, Muslim Fifth Column"
"Farage Black Lives Matter, Taliban"

Let us know what you find AND let us know if you agree with it.

I'll wait

No, YOUR accusing him, so YOU prove it.

I don't need to prove anything to you. I've shared with you when he's been racist and they're just off the top of my head. If I begin to search, maybe it'll never end? Maybe if you search you'll begin to find things that you don't like and shatter your illusions? However, as it's a sunny day, I'm off work and I'm in a good mood I'll help you out a bit with a clue. Check out why he left LBC.

I'll wait.

[tommy toes]

Anyone with half a brain should know that Farage is a high end racist, even when he sometimes cloaks his views by cleverly implying things and then backtracking.
He’s constantly sewing his divisive, racist seeds.
Like I’ve said before the rise of parties like his throughout Europe is as dangerous as Putin.

[SydneyRover]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jun/25/undecided-voters-uk-general-election-polls


Seems like real people on the ground are still not convinced. Yet the opinion polls are screaming something else?

Ive spoken to people in my area who have been Tory voters in the past and not one of them has suggested that they will be voting Labour, its been mainly none of the above followed by a few reform and lib-dem.

We all know that their is a silent majority who don't want to advertise their preferences, certainly not to pollsters. but this still seems very irregular.

Seems like we will just have to wait to see what the true outcome will be, i'd be surprised if some of the recent media guestimates are anywhere near reality.

Hound wants to know their names, addresses, phone numbers and when you spoke them.

[SydneyRover]

Muslims are a follower of Islam and therefore a religion not a race

That would apply to Jews also then?

[glosterred]

Muslims are a follower of Islam and therefore a religion not a race

That would apply to Jews also then?

Yes

[SydneyRover]

Muslims are a follower of Islam and therefore a religion not a race

That would apply to Jews also then?

Yes

I'm glad that's sorted

[drfchound]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jun/25/undecided-voters-uk-general-election-polls


Seems like real people on the ground are still not convinced. Yet the opinion polls are screaming something else?

Ive spoken to people in my area who have been Tory voters in the past and not one of them has suggested that they will be voting Labour, its been mainly none of the above followed by a few reform and lib-dem.

We all know that their is a silent majority who don't want to advertise their preferences, certainly not to pollsters. but this still seems very irregular.

Seems like we will just have to wait to see what the true outcome will be, i'd be surprised if some of the recent media guestimates are anywhere near reality.

Hound wants to know their names, addresses, phone numbers and when you spoke them.

That is rich coming from you Syd.
Asking everyone for links and evidence is your forte.

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

I'm a bit lost and still undecided between three parties.  But I just don't see anything inspiring from any of them, a bit like the England game.

I'm a bit behind though as been abroad the last week, appears the focus is on betting, because clearly that fixes all of our lives.

[SydneyRover]

I'm a bit lost and still undecided between three parties.  But I just don't see anything inspiring from any of them, a bit like the England game.

I'm a bit behind though as been abroad the last week, appears the focus is on betting, because clearly that fixes all of our lives.

You're not trying hard enough pud, you did vote for this ''shower of shit'' 4 times in a row.

[TonySoprano]

20 of you, that’s nearly a quarter of those who’ve voted, have been charmed by a racist,Trump loving far right divisive bigot who only cares about himself and his bank balance.
Some people never learn.

What's he said that's racist?

Off the top of my head...

Claiming that Muslims don't share British values is fairly racist
Claiming that Muslims wanted to form a 'fifth column; to kill us all is fairly racist
Comparing the Black Lives Matter movement as a 'new Taliban' is fairly racist

All of these were a huge surprise to my Muslim and Black friends who've probably done more good for this country and the people in it that Farage ever has or will do.

Link to those quotes please in context?


I'll wait.

Tony,

Try searching:
"Farage, Muslims don't share British Values"
"Farage, Muslim Fifth Column"
"Farage Black Lives Matter, Taliban"

Let us know what you find AND let us know if you agree with it.

I'll wait

No, YOUR accusing him, so YOU prove it.

I don't need to prove anything to you. I've shared with you when he's been racist and they're just off the top of my head. If I begin to search, maybe it'll never end? Maybe if you search you'll begin to find things that you don't like and shatter your illusions? However, as it's a sunny day, I'm off work and I'm in a good mood I'll help you out a bit with a clue. Check out why he left LBC.

I'll wait.

Ah, so you can't find any proof then?
Right. I'll stop waiting then.

[SydneyRover]

20 of you, that’s nearly a quarter of those who’ve voted, have been charmed by a racist,Trump loving far right divisive bigot who only cares about himself and his bank balance.
Some people never learn.

What's he said that's racist?

Off the top of my head...

Claiming that Muslims don't share British values is fairly racist
Claiming that Muslims wanted to form a 'fifth column; to kill us all is fairly racist
Comparing the Black Lives Matter movement as a 'new Taliban' is fairly racist

All of these were a huge surprise to my Muslim and Black friends who've probably done more good for this country and the people in it that Farage ever has or will do.

Link to those quotes please in context?


I'll wait.

Tony,

Try searching:
"Farage, Muslims don't share British Values"
"Farage, Muslim Fifth Column"
"Farage Black Lives Matter, Taliban"

Let us know what you find AND let us know if you agree with it.

I'll wait

No, YOUR accusing him, so YOU prove it.

I don't need to prove anything to you. I've shared with you when he's been racist and they're just off the top of my head. If I begin to search, maybe it'll never end? Maybe if you search you'll begin to find things that you don't like and shatter your illusions? However, as it's a sunny day, I'm off work and I'm in a good mood I'll help you out a bit with a clue. Check out why he left LBC.

I'll wait.

Ah, so you can't find any proof then?
Right. I'll stop waiting then.

Wait no longer, I've posted it before, this is from people very close to him and knew him well, enjoy-or not.

''‘He was a deeply unembarrassed racist’: Nigel Farage, by those who have known him''

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/ng-interactive/2024/jun/14/he-was-a-deeply-unembarrassed-racist-nigel-farage-by-those-who-have-known-him

[SydneyRover]

I guess now proof that farage is a racist git is out there and nobody has answered my previous question to name anything positive he has done for the UK or the people in it ........... what good would it serve having him as an mp, who could he please except other racists?

[Herbert Anchovy]

20 of you, that’s nearly a quarter of those who’ve voted, have been charmed by a racist,Trump loving far right divisive bigot who only cares about himself and his bank balance.
Some people never learn.

What's he said that's racist?

Off the top of my head...

Claiming that Muslims don't share British values is fairly racist
Claiming that Muslims wanted to form a 'fifth column; to kill us all is fairly racist
Comparing the Black Lives Matter movement as a 'new Taliban' is fairly racist

All of these were a huge surprise to my Muslim and Black friends who've probably done more good for this country and the people in it that Farage ever has or will do.

Link to those quotes please in context?


I'll wait.

Tony,

Try searching:
"Farage, Muslims don't share British Values"
"Farage, Muslim Fifth Column"
"Farage Black Lives Matter, Taliban"

Let us know what you find AND let us know if you agree with it.

I'll wait

No, YOUR accusing him, so YOU prove it.

I don't need to prove anything to you. I've shared with you when he's been racist and they're just off the top of my head. If I begin to search, maybe it'll never end? Maybe if you search you'll begin to find things that you don't like and shatter your illusions? However, as it's a sunny day, I'm off work and I'm in a good mood I'll help you out a bit with a clue. Check out why he left LBC.

I'll wait.

Ah, so you can't find any proof then?
Right. I'll stop waiting then.

Tony, it's absolutely ok, I get it. Nobody likes to have their views challenged and proved wrong, but really, trying to defend Farage leaves you on thin ice and surely you're smart enough to know this? You don't want to search for yourself because you're a little worried about what you know you'll find! Look, I'm sure you're a very decent fella and you're not alone in falling for Farage's bullshit. Lots of people seem to be right now, but the bigger person is the one who stands for what's right and deep down, I'm sure that you do know what Farage is and what he stands for. You want what's best for the country and its people, whatever their creed, religion or colour and yet you're frustrated with the other political parties, so you think that Farage is the man to 'shake things up a bit' as he represents the majority doesn't he? Well, no he doesn't.... he wants to slash public services, sell off the NHS and introduce an insurance based scheme and cut taxes for the rich. The painful truth is that he really, really doesn't give a toss about you or I. Even less than the other parties do. And if you happen to be of a race, creed , religion, ethnicity or class that he doesn't like then he'd do everything that he can to make your life as difficult as possible.

Finally, because I like you Tony and I don't really think that you're a bad egg at all, I'm going to help you out by sharing just a snippet of why I don't like Farage.

https://www.businessinsider.com/nigel-farage-leaves-lbc-show-black-lives-matter-taliban-comments-2020-6

You're welcome.

[Bentley Bullet]

Bloody hell, 1 in 5 people on this site are 'far right', and in the Republic of South Yorkshire en'all!

[tommy toes]

Including you eh BB eh?
Go on you know you want to.

[Bentley Bullet]

Now make your mind up tt! Aren't I a staunch, raving, Johnson-loving Tory?

Am I going to have to add disloyalty to my lying, thick, stupid, racist, fascist CV?

[Bentley Bullet]

Anyone with half a brain should know that Farage is a high end racist, even when he sometimes cloaks his views by cleverly implying things and then backtracking.
He’s constantly sewing his divisive, racist seeds.
Like I’ve said before the rise of parties like his throughout Europe is as dangerous as Putin.

I'll have to take your word for that, tt.

[normal rules]

Bloody hell, 1 in 5 people on this site are 'far right', and in the Republic of South Yorkshire en'all!

How many of the French population, are far right ?

[danumdon]

People talking about "far right" was that not the NF, BNP?

Crazy when you think about it, we have people on here today who are going to vote for a party who are to the right of previous versions of both Tory and Liberals, Tories who are to the left of previous versions of Labour!

Its becoming a very muddled middle ground, pick a version of a centrist party, you have many to choose from, not a great deal of difference between them when it comes to the actual implantation of policy.

Whoever was going to win the GE was always going to be implementing a broad range of their policy in exactly the same way.

This is going to store up a good deal of issues going forward leading to some pretty unsavoury choices down the line. A party with vision would be able to take that into consideration and plan to ensure the future does not look dire.

Do we have anyone with that vision?

[SydneyRover]

People talking about "far right" was that not the NF, BNP?

Crazy when you think about it, we have people on here today who are going to vote for a party who are to the right of previous versions of both Tory and Liberals, Tories who are to the left of previous versions of Labour!

Its becoming a very muddled middle ground, pick a version of a centrist party, you have many to choose from, not a great deal of difference between them when it comes to the actual implantation of policy.

Whoever was going to win the GE was always going to be implementing a broad range of their policy in exactly the same way.

This is going to store up a good deal of issues going forward leading to some pretty unsavoury choices down the line. A party with vision would be able to take that into consideration and plan to ensure the future does not look dire.

Do we have anyone with that vision?

Here's your chance to name policies with vision that you would support dd.

[danumdon]

People talking about "far right" was that not the NF, BNP?

Crazy when you think about it, we have people on here today who are going to vote for a party who are to the right of previous versions of both Tory and Liberals, Tories who are to the left of previous versions of Labour!

Its becoming a very muddled middle ground, pick a version of a centrist party, you have many to choose from, not a great deal of difference between them when it comes to the actual implantation of policy.

Whoever was going to win the GE was always going to be implementing a broad range of their policy in exactly the same way.

This is going to store up a good deal of issues going forward leading to some pretty unsavoury choices down the line. A party with vision would be able to take that into consideration and plan to ensure the future does not look dire.

Do we have anyone with that vision?

Here's your chance to name policies with vision that you would support dd.

What would be the point in that?

The way the country is now governed is not going to change, i don't know if you've noticed being an immigrant and all that, but the whole political apparatus is now rigged to such an extent that going forwards we will have the same choices, there's no such thing as right and left wing anymore, that gone and any parties that push that narrative are going to be in the wilderness until such a time as the country gets so fed up and has had its fill of politicians telling the nation what's going to happen, should it not be the other way around?

Regardless of who you vote for in this election when it comes down to the actual process of implementing policy we are going to be getting virtually the same from whoever's in power. Taxes will rise, services will be cut and the same issues we have now will just multiply as we go forward.

No such thing as Labour, Tory and Liberal any more, just a bunch of social democrats who cannot see beyond their noses.

[SydneyRover]

People talking about "far right" was that not the NF, BNP?

Crazy when you think about it, we have people on here today who are going to vote for a party who are to the right of previous versions of both Tory and Liberals, Tories who are to the left of previous versions of Labour!

Its becoming a very muddled middle ground, pick a version of a centrist party, you have many to choose from, not a great deal of difference between them when it comes to the actual implantation of policy.

Whoever was going to win the GE was always going to be implementing a broad range of their policy in exactly the same way.

This is going to store up a good deal of issues going forward leading to some pretty unsavoury choices down the line. A party with vision would be able to take that into consideration and plan to ensure the future does not look dire.

Do we have anyone with that vision?

Here's your chance to name policies with vision that you would support dd.

What would be the point in that?

The way the country is now governed is not going to change, i don't know if you've noticed being an immigrant and all that, but the whole political apparatus is now rigged to such an extent that going forwards we will have the same choices, there's no such thing as right and left wing anymore, that gone and any parties that push that narrative are going to be in the wilderness until such a time as the country gets so fed up and has had its fill of politicians telling the nation what's going to happen, should it not be the other way around?

Regardless of who you vote for in this election when it comes down to the actual process of implementing policy we are going to be getting virtually the same from whoever's in power. Taxes will rise, services will be cut and the same issues we have now will just multiply as we go forward.

No such thing as Labour, Tory and Liberal any more, just a bunch of social democrats who cannot see beyond their noses.

It would show you are not just flannelling and do have an idea of what you really want.

[danumdon]

People talking about "far right" was that not the NF, BNP?

Crazy when you think about it, we have people on here today who are going to vote for a party who are to the right of previous versions of both Tory and Liberals, Tories who are to the left of previous versions of Labour!

Its becoming a very muddled middle ground, pick a version of a centrist party, you have many to choose from, not a great deal of difference between them when it comes to the actual implantation of policy.

Whoever was going to win the GE was always going to be implementing a broad range of their policy in exactly the same way.

This is going to store up a good deal of issues going forward leading to some pretty unsavoury choices down the line. A party with vision would be able to take that into consideration and plan to ensure the future does not look dire.

Do we have anyone with that vision?

Here's your chance to name policies with vision that you would support dd.

What would be the point in that?

The way the country is now governed is not going to change, i don't know if you've noticed being an immigrant and all that, but the whole political apparatus is now rigged to such an extent that going forwards we will have the same choices, there's no such thing as right and left wing anymore, that gone and any parties that push that narrative are going to be in the wilderness until such a time as the country gets so fed up and has had its fill of politicians telling the nation what's going to happen, should it not be the other way around?

Regardless of who you vote for in this election when it comes down to the actual process of implementing policy we are going to be getting virtually the same from whoever's in power. Taxes will rise, services will be cut and the same issues we have now will just multiply as we go forward.

No such thing as Labour, Tory and Liberal any more, just a bunch of social democrats who cannot see beyond their noses.

It would show you are not just flannelling and do have an idea of what you really want.

Would that be the same flanneling that you subject every poor bugger on here to constantly? that one?

[SydneyRover]

People talking about "far right" was that not the NF, BNP?

Crazy when you think about it, we have people on here today who are going to vote for a party who are to the right of previous versions of both Tory and Liberals, Tories who are to the left of previous versions of Labour!

Its becoming a very muddled middle ground, pick a version of a centrist party, you have many to choose from, not a great deal of difference between them when it comes to the actual implantation of policy.

Whoever was going to win the GE was always going to be implementing a broad range of their policy in exactly the same way.

This is going to store up a good deal of issues going forward leading to some pretty unsavoury choices down the line. A party with vision would be able to take that into consideration and plan to ensure the future does not look dire.

Do we have anyone with that vision?

Here's your chance to name policies with vision that you would support dd.

What would be the point in that?

The way the country is now governed is not going to change, i don't know if you've noticed being an immigrant and all that, but the whole political apparatus is now rigged to such an extent that going forwards we will have the same choices, there's no such thing as right and left wing anymore, that gone and any parties that push that narrative are going to be in the wilderness until such a time as the country gets so fed up and has had its fill of politicians telling the nation what's going to happen, should it not be the other way around?

Regardless of who you vote for in this election when it comes down to the actual process of implementing policy we are going to be getting virtually the same from whoever's in power. Taxes will rise, services will be cut and the same issues we have now will just multiply as we go forward.

No such thing as Labour, Tory and Liberal any more, just a bunch of social democrats who cannot see beyond their noses.

It would show you are not just flannelling and do have an idea of what you really want.

Would that be the same flanneling that you subject every poor bugger on here to constantly? that one?

It's asking the same of you that you ask others is all, if you don't know just say so.

[danumdon]

People talking about "far right" was that not the NF, BNP?

Crazy when you think about it, we have people on here today who are going to vote for a party who are to the right of previous versions of both Tory and Liberals, Tories who are to the left of previous versions of Labour!

Its becoming a very muddled middle ground, pick a version of a centrist party, you have many to choose from, not a great deal of difference between them when it comes to the actual implantation of policy.

Whoever was going to win the GE was always going to be implementing a broad range of their policy in exactly the same way.

This is going to store up a good deal of issues going forward leading to some pretty unsavoury choices down the line. A party with vision would be able to take that into consideration and plan to ensure the future does not look dire.

Do we have anyone with that vision?

Here's your chance to name policies with vision that you would support dd.

What would be the point in that?

The way the country is now governed is not going to change, i don't know if you've noticed being an immigrant and all that, but the whole political apparatus is now rigged to such an extent that going forwards we will have the same choices, there's no such thing as right and left wing anymore, that gone and any parties that push that narrative are going to be in the wilderness until such a time as the country gets so fed up and has had its fill of politicians telling the nation what's going to happen, should it not be the other way around?

Regardless of who you vote for in this election when it comes down to the actual process of implementing policy we are going to be getting virtually the same from whoever's in power. Taxes will rise, services will be cut and the same issues we have now will just multiply as we go forward.

No such thing as Labour, Tory and Liberal any more, just a bunch of social democrats who cannot see beyond their noses.

It would show you are not just flannelling and do have an idea of what you really want.

Would that be the same flanneling that you subject every poor bugger on here to constantly? that one?

It's asking the same of you that you ask others is all, if you don't know just say so.

Should not the whole forum be asking you the same question?

[SydneyRover]

No just you dd you're the one that said you want people with vision, yet here you are, can't name one policy with vision that you want.

[danumdon]

No just you dd you're the one that said you want people with vision, yet here you are, can't name one policy with vision that you want.

I'm to take it then that you don't want people with vision to lead this country?

This is not surprising given you want a Starmer government, he has zero vision, as we all are about to find out.

I'll remind you of this when the time is right.