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Quote from: Herbert Anchovy on June 25, 2024, 01:54:09 pmQuote from: TonySoprano on June 25, 2024, 12:17:15 pmQuote from: tommy toes on June 25, 2024, 07:52:12 am20 of you, that’s nearly a quarter of those who’ve voted, have been charmed by a racist,Trump loving far right divisive bigot who only cares about himself and his bank balance.Some people never learn.What's he said that's racist?Off the top of my head...Claiming that Muslims don't share British values is fairly racist Claiming that Muslims wanted to form a 'fifth column; to kill us all is fairly racistComparing the Black Lives Matter movement as a 'new Taliban' is fairly racist All of these were a huge surprise to my Muslim and Black friends who've probably done more good for this country and the people in it that Farage ever has or will do.Link to those quotes please in context?I'll wait.
Quote from: TonySoprano on June 25, 2024, 12:17:15 pmQuote from: tommy toes on June 25, 2024, 07:52:12 am20 of you, that’s nearly a quarter of those who’ve voted, have been charmed by a racist,Trump loving far right divisive bigot who only cares about himself and his bank balance.Some people never learn.What's he said that's racist?Off the top of my head...Claiming that Muslims don't share British values is fairly racist Claiming that Muslims wanted to form a 'fifth column; to kill us all is fairly racistComparing the Black Lives Matter movement as a 'new Taliban' is fairly racist All of these were a huge surprise to my Muslim and Black friends who've probably done more good for this country and the people in it that Farage ever has or will do.
Quote from: tommy toes on June 25, 2024, 07:52:12 am20 of you, that’s nearly a quarter of those who’ve voted, have been charmed by a racist,Trump loving far right divisive bigot who only cares about himself and his bank balance.Some people never learn.What's he said that's racist?
20 of you, that’s nearly a quarter of those who’ve voted, have been charmed by a racist,Trump loving far right divisive bigot who only cares about himself and his bank balance.Some people never learn.
Quote from: TonySoprano on June 25, 2024, 02:54:39 pmQuote from: Herbert Anchovy on June 25, 2024, 01:54:09 pmQuote from: TonySoprano on June 25, 2024, 12:17:15 pmQuote from: tommy toes on June 25, 2024, 07:52:12 am20 of you, that’s nearly a quarter of those who’ve voted, have been charmed by a racist,Trump loving far right divisive bigot who only cares about himself and his bank balance.Some people never learn.What's he said that's racist?Off the top of my head...Claiming that Muslims don't share British values is fairly racist Claiming that Muslims wanted to form a 'fifth column; to kill us all is fairly racistComparing the Black Lives Matter movement as a 'new Taliban' is fairly racist All of these were a huge surprise to my Muslim and Black friends who've probably done more good for this country and the people in it that Farage ever has or will do.Link to those quotes please in context?I'll wait. Tony, Try searching: "Farage, Muslims don't share British Values""Farage, Muslim Fifth Column""Farage Black Lives Matter, Taliban"Let us know what you find AND let us know if you agree with it.I'll wait
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jun/25/undecided-voters-uk-general-election-pollsSeems like real people on the ground are still not convinced. Yet the opinion polls are screaming something else?Ive spoken to people in my area who have been Tory voters in the past and not one of them has suggested that they will be voting Labour, its been mainly none of the above followed by a few reform and lib-dem. We all know that their is a silent majority who don't want to advertise their preferences, certainly not to pollsters. but this still seems very irregular.Seems like we will just have to wait to see what the true outcome will be, i'd be surprised if some of the recent media guestimates are anywhere near reality.
Quote from: Herbert Anchovy on June 25, 2024, 03:27:53 pmQuote from: TonySoprano on June 25, 2024, 02:54:39 pmQuote from: Herbert Anchovy on June 25, 2024, 01:54:09 pmQuote from: TonySoprano on June 25, 2024, 12:17:15 pmQuote from: tommy toes on June 25, 2024, 07:52:12 am20 of you, that’s nearly a quarter of those who’ve voted, have been charmed by a racist,Trump loving far right divisive bigot who only cares about himself and his bank balance.Some people never learn.What's he said that's racist?Off the top of my head...Claiming that Muslims don't share British values is fairly racist Claiming that Muslims wanted to form a 'fifth column; to kill us all is fairly racistComparing the Black Lives Matter movement as a 'new Taliban' is fairly racist All of these were a huge surprise to my Muslim and Black friends who've probably done more good for this country and the people in it that Farage ever has or will do.Link to those quotes please in context?I'll wait. Tony, Try searching: "Farage, Muslims don't share British Values""Farage, Muslim Fifth Column""Farage Black Lives Matter, Taliban"Let us know what you find AND let us know if you agree with it.I'll waitNo, YOUR accusing him, so YOU prove it.
Muslims are a follower of Islam and therefore a religion not a race
Quote from: glosterred on June 25, 2024, 05:34:33 pmMuslims are a follower of Islam and therefore a religion not a raceThat would apply to Jews also then?
Quote from: SydneyRover on June 25, 2024, 05:36:20 pmQuote from: glosterred on June 25, 2024, 05:34:33 pmMuslims are a follower of Islam and therefore a religion not a raceThat would apply to Jews also then?Yes
Quote from: danumdon on June 25, 2024, 03:26:25 pmhttps://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jun/25/undecided-voters-uk-general-election-pollsSeems like real people on the ground are still not convinced. Yet the opinion polls are screaming something else?Ive spoken to people in my area who have been Tory voters in the past and not one of them has suggested that they will be voting Labour, its been mainly none of the above followed by a few reform and lib-dem. We all know that their is a silent majority who don't want to advertise their preferences, certainly not to pollsters. but this still seems very irregular.Seems like we will just have to wait to see what the true outcome will be, i'd be surprised if some of the recent media guestimates are anywhere near reality.Hound wants to know their names, addresses, phone numbers and when you spoke them.
I'm a bit lost and still undecided between three parties. But I just don't see anything inspiring from any of them, a bit like the England game.I'm a bit behind though as been abroad the last week, appears the focus is on betting, because clearly that fixes all of our lives.
Quote from: TonySoprano on June 25, 2024, 03:34:04 pmQuote from: Herbert Anchovy on June 25, 2024, 03:27:53 pmQuote from: TonySoprano on June 25, 2024, 02:54:39 pmQuote from: Herbert Anchovy on June 25, 2024, 01:54:09 pmQuote from: TonySoprano on June 25, 2024, 12:17:15 pmQuote from: tommy toes on June 25, 2024, 07:52:12 am20 of you, that’s nearly a quarter of those who’ve voted, have been charmed by a racist,Trump loving far right divisive bigot who only cares about himself and his bank balance.Some people never learn.What's he said that's racist?Off the top of my head...Claiming that Muslims don't share British values is fairly racist Claiming that Muslims wanted to form a 'fifth column; to kill us all is fairly racistComparing the Black Lives Matter movement as a 'new Taliban' is fairly racist All of these were a huge surprise to my Muslim and Black friends who've probably done more good for this country and the people in it that Farage ever has or will do.Link to those quotes please in context?I'll wait. Tony, Try searching: "Farage, Muslims don't share British Values""Farage, Muslim Fifth Column""Farage Black Lives Matter, Taliban"Let us know what you find AND let us know if you agree with it.I'll waitNo, YOUR accusing him, so YOU prove it.I don't need to prove anything to you. I've shared with you when he's been racist and they're just off the top of my head. If I begin to search, maybe it'll never end? Maybe if you search you'll begin to find things that you don't like and shatter your illusions? However, as it's a sunny day, I'm off work and I'm in a good mood I'll help you out a bit with a clue. Check out why he left LBC.I'll wait.
Quote from: Herbert Anchovy on June 25, 2024, 03:39:24 pmQuote from: TonySoprano on June 25, 2024, 03:34:04 pmQuote from: Herbert Anchovy on June 25, 2024, 03:27:53 pmQuote from: TonySoprano on June 25, 2024, 02:54:39 pmQuote from: Herbert Anchovy on June 25, 2024, 01:54:09 pmQuote from: TonySoprano on June 25, 2024, 12:17:15 pmQuote from: tommy toes on June 25, 2024, 07:52:12 am20 of you, that’s nearly a quarter of those who’ve voted, have been charmed by a racist,Trump loving far right divisive bigot who only cares about himself and his bank balance.Some people never learn.What's he said that's racist?Off the top of my head...Claiming that Muslims don't share British values is fairly racist Claiming that Muslims wanted to form a 'fifth column; to kill us all is fairly racistComparing the Black Lives Matter movement as a 'new Taliban' is fairly racist All of these were a huge surprise to my Muslim and Black friends who've probably done more good for this country and the people in it that Farage ever has or will do.Link to those quotes please in context?I'll wait. Tony, Try searching: "Farage, Muslims don't share British Values""Farage, Muslim Fifth Column""Farage Black Lives Matter, Taliban"Let us know what you find AND let us know if you agree with it.I'll waitNo, YOUR accusing him, so YOU prove it.I don't need to prove anything to you. I've shared with you when he's been racist and they're just off the top of my head. If I begin to search, maybe it'll never end? Maybe if you search you'll begin to find things that you don't like and shatter your illusions? However, as it's a sunny day, I'm off work and I'm in a good mood I'll help you out a bit with a clue. Check out why he left LBC.I'll wait.Ah, so you can't find any proof then? Right. I'll stop waiting then.
Anyone with half a brain should know that Farage is a high end racist, even when he sometimes cloaks his views by cleverly implying things and then backtracking.He’s constantly sewing his divisive, racist seeds.Like I’ve said before the rise of parties like his throughout Europe is as dangerous as Putin.
Bloody hell, 1 in 5 people on this site are 'far right', and in the Republic of South Yorkshire en'all!
People talking about "far right" was that not the NF, BNP?Crazy when you think about it, we have people on here today who are going to vote for a party who are to the right of previous versions of both Tory and Liberals, Tories who are to the left of previous versions of Labour!Its becoming a very muddled middle ground, pick a version of a centrist party, you have many to choose from, not a great deal of difference between them when it comes to the actual implantation of policy.Whoever was going to win the GE was always going to be implementing a broad range of their policy in exactly the same way.This is going to store up a good deal of issues going forward leading to some pretty unsavoury choices down the line. A party with vision would be able to take that into consideration and plan to ensure the future does not look dire.Do we have anyone with that vision?
Quote from: danumdon on Today at 10:15:22 amPeople talking about "far right" was that not the NF, BNP?Crazy when you think about it, we have people on here today who are going to vote for a party who are to the right of previous versions of both Tory and Liberals, Tories who are to the left of previous versions of Labour!Its becoming a very muddled middle ground, pick a version of a centrist party, you have many to choose from, not a great deal of difference between them when it comes to the actual implantation of policy.Whoever was going to win the GE was always going to be implementing a broad range of their policy in exactly the same way.This is going to store up a good deal of issues going forward leading to some pretty unsavoury choices down the line. A party with vision would be able to take that into consideration and plan to ensure the future does not look dire.Do we have anyone with that vision?Here's your chance to name policies with vision that you would support dd.
People talking about "far right" was that not the NF, BNP?Crazy when you think about it, we have people on here today who are going to vote for a party who are to the right of previous versions of both Tory and Liberals, Tories who are to the left of previous versions of Labour!Its becoming a very muddled middle ground, pick a version of a centrist party, you have many to choose from, not a great deal of difference between them when it comes to the actual implantation of policy.Whoever was going to win the GE was always going to be implementing a broad range of their policy in exactly the same way.This is going to store up a good deal of issues going forward leading to some pretty unsavoury choices down the line. A party with vision would be able to take that into consideration and plan to ensure the future does not look dire.Do we have anyone with that vision?
Quote from: SydneyRover on Today at 10:19:06 amQuote from: danumdon on Today at 10:15:22 amPeople talking about "far right" was that not the NF, BNP?Crazy when you think about it, we have people on here today who are going to vote for a party who are to the right of previous versions of both Tory and Liberals, Tories who are to the left of previous versions of Labour!Its becoming a very muddled middle ground, pick a version of a centrist party, you have many to choose from, not a great deal of difference between them when it comes to the actual implantation of policy.Whoever was going to win the GE was always going to be implementing a broad range of their policy in exactly the same way.This is going to store up a good deal of issues going forward leading to some pretty unsavoury choices down the line. A party with vision would be able to take that into consideration and plan to ensure the future does not look dire.Do we have anyone with that vision?Here's your chance to name policies with vision that you would support dd.What would be the point in that?The way the country is now governed is not going to change, i don't know if you've noticed being an immigrant and all that, but the whole political apparatus is now rigged to such an extent that going forwards we will have the same choices, there's no such thing as right and left wing anymore, that gone and any parties that push that narrative are going to be in the wilderness until such a time as the country gets so fed up and has had its fill of politicians telling the nation what's going to happen, should it not be the other way around?Regardless of who you vote for in this election when it comes down to the actual process of implementing policy we are going to be getting virtually the same from whoever's in power. Taxes will rise, services will be cut and the same issues we have now will just multiply as we go forward.No such thing as Labour, Tory and Liberal any more, just a bunch of social democrats who cannot see beyond their noses.
Quote from: danumdon on Today at 10:32:40 amQuote from: SydneyRover on Today at 10:19:06 amQuote from: danumdon on Today at 10:15:22 amPeople talking about "far right" was that not the NF, BNP?Crazy when you think about it, we have people on here today who are going to vote for a party who are to the right of previous versions of both Tory and Liberals, Tories who are to the left of previous versions of Labour!Its becoming a very muddled middle ground, pick a version of a centrist party, you have many to choose from, not a great deal of difference between them when it comes to the actual implantation of policy.Whoever was going to win the GE was always going to be implementing a broad range of their policy in exactly the same way.This is going to store up a good deal of issues going forward leading to some pretty unsavoury choices down the line. A party with vision would be able to take that into consideration and plan to ensure the future does not look dire.Do we have anyone with that vision?Here's your chance to name policies with vision that you would support dd.What would be the point in that?The way the country is now governed is not going to change, i don't know if you've noticed being an immigrant and all that, but the whole political apparatus is now rigged to such an extent that going forwards we will have the same choices, there's no such thing as right and left wing anymore, that gone and any parties that push that narrative are going to be in the wilderness until such a time as the country gets so fed up and has had its fill of politicians telling the nation what's going to happen, should it not be the other way around?Regardless of who you vote for in this election when it comes down to the actual process of implementing policy we are going to be getting virtually the same from whoever's in power. Taxes will rise, services will be cut and the same issues we have now will just multiply as we go forward.No such thing as Labour, Tory and Liberal any more, just a bunch of social democrats who cannot see beyond their noses.It would show you are not just flannelling and do have an idea of what you really want.
Quote from: SydneyRover on Today at 10:19:06 amQuote from: danumdon on Today at 10:15:22 amPeople talking about "far right" was that not the NF, BNP?Crazy when you think about it, we have people on here today who are going to vote for a party who are to the right of previous versions of both Tory and Liberals, Tories who are to the left of previous versions of Labour!Its becoming a very muddled middle ground, pick a version of a centrist party, you have many to choose from, not a great deal of difference between them when it comes to the actual implantation of policy.Whoever was going to win the GE was always going to be implementing a broad range of their policy in exactly the same way.This is going to store up a good deal of issues going forward leading to some pretty unsavoury choices down the line. A party with vision would be able to take that into consideration and plan to ensure the future does not look dire.Do we have anyone with that vision?Here's your chance to name policies with vision that you would support dd.What would be the point in that?The way the country is now governed is not going to change, i don't know if you've noticed being an immigrant and all that, but the whole political apparatus is now rigged to such an extent that going forwards we will have the same choices, there's no such thing as right and left wing anymore, that gone and any parties that push that narrative are going to be in the wilderness until such a time as the country gets so fed up and has had its fill of politicians telling the nation what's going to happen, should it not be the other way around?Regardless of who you vote for in this election when it comes down to the actual process of implementing policy we are going to be getting virtually the same from whoever's in power. Taxes will rise, services will be cut and the same issues we have now will just multiply as we go forward.No such thing as Labour, Tory and Liberal any more, just a bunch of social democrats who cannot see beyond their noses.
Quote from: danumdon on Today at 10:15:22 amPeople talking about "far right" was that not the NF, BNP?Crazy when you think about it, we have people on here today who are going to vote for a party who are to the right of previous versions of both Tory and Liberals, Tories who are to the left of previous versions of Labour!Its becoming a very muddled middle ground, pick a version of a centrist party, you have many to choose from, not a great deal of difference between them when it comes to the actual implantation of policy.Whoever was going to win the GE was always going to be implementing a broad range of their policy in exactly the same way.This is going to store up a good deal of issues going forward leading to some pretty unsavoury choices down the line. A party with vision would be able to take that into consideration and plan to ensure the future does not look dire.Do we have anyone with that vision?Here's your chance to name policies with vision that you would support dd.
People talking about "far right" was that not the NF, BNP?Crazy when you think about it, we have people on here today who are going to vote for a party who are to the right of previous versions of both Tory and Liberals, Tories who are to the left of previous versions of Labour!Its becoming a very muddled middle ground, pick a version of a centrist party, you have many to choose from, not a great deal of difference between them when it comes to the actual implantation of policy.Whoever was going to win the GE was always going to be implementing a broad range of their policy in exactly the same way.This is going to store up a good deal of issues going forward leading to some pretty unsavoury choices down the line. A party with vision would be able to take that into consideration and plan to ensure the future does not look dire.Do we have anyone with that vision?
Quote from: SydneyRover on Today at 10:39:04 amQuote from: danumdon on Today at 10:32:40 amQuote from: SydneyRover on Today at 10:19:06 amQuote from: danumdon on Today at 10:15:22 amPeople talking about "far right" was that not the NF, BNP?Crazy when you think about it, we have people on here today who are going to vote for a party who are to the right of previous versions of both Tory and Liberals, Tories who are to the left of previous versions of Labour!Its becoming a very muddled middle ground, pick a version of a centrist party, you have many to choose from, not a great deal of difference between them when it comes to the actual implantation of policy.Whoever was going to win the GE was always going to be implementing a broad range of their policy in exactly the same way.This is going to store up a good deal of issues going forward leading to some pretty unsavoury choices down the line. A party with vision would be able to take that into consideration and plan to ensure the future does not look dire.Do we have anyone with that vision?Here's your chance to name policies with vision that you would support dd.What would be the point in that?The way the country is now governed is not going to change, i don't know if you've noticed being an immigrant and all that, but the whole political apparatus is now rigged to such an extent that going forwards we will have the same choices, there's no such thing as right and left wing anymore, that gone and any parties that push that narrative are going to be in the wilderness until such a time as the country gets so fed up and has had its fill of politicians telling the nation what's going to happen, should it not be the other way around?Regardless of who you vote for in this election when it comes down to the actual process of implementing policy we are going to be getting virtually the same from whoever's in power. Taxes will rise, services will be cut and the same issues we have now will just multiply as we go forward.No such thing as Labour, Tory and Liberal any more, just a bunch of social democrats who cannot see beyond their noses.It would show you are not just flannelling and do have an idea of what you really want.Would that be the same flanneling that you subject every poor bugger on here to constantly? that one?
Quote from: danumdon on Today at 10:59:03 amQuote from: SydneyRover on Today at 10:39:04 amQuote from: danumdon on Today at 10:32:40 amQuote from: SydneyRover on Today at 10:19:06 amQuote from: danumdon on Today at 10:15:22 amPeople talking about "far right" was that not the NF, BNP?Crazy when you think about it, we have people on here today who are going to vote for a party who are to the right of previous versions of both Tory and Liberals, Tories who are to the left of previous versions of Labour!Its becoming a very muddled middle ground, pick a version of a centrist party, you have many to choose from, not a great deal of difference between them when it comes to the actual implantation of policy.Whoever was going to win the GE was always going to be implementing a broad range of their policy in exactly the same way.This is going to store up a good deal of issues going forward leading to some pretty unsavoury choices down the line. A party with vision would be able to take that into consideration and plan to ensure the future does not look dire.Do we have anyone with that vision?Here's your chance to name policies with vision that you would support dd.What would be the point in that?The way the country is now governed is not going to change, i don't know if you've noticed being an immigrant and all that, but the whole political apparatus is now rigged to such an extent that going forwards we will have the same choices, there's no such thing as right and left wing anymore, that gone and any parties that push that narrative are going to be in the wilderness until such a time as the country gets so fed up and has had its fill of politicians telling the nation what's going to happen, should it not be the other way around?Regardless of who you vote for in this election when it comes down to the actual process of implementing policy we are going to be getting virtually the same from whoever's in power. Taxes will rise, services will be cut and the same issues we have now will just multiply as we go forward.No such thing as Labour, Tory and Liberal any more, just a bunch of social democrats who cannot see beyond their noses.It would show you are not just flannelling and do have an idea of what you really want.Would that be the same flanneling that you subject every poor bugger on here to constantly? that one?It's asking the same of you that you ask others is all, if you don't know just say so.
Quote from: SydneyRover on Today at 10:39:04 amQuote from: danumdon on Today at 10:32:40 amQuote from: SydneyRover on Today at 10:19:06 amQuote from: danumdon on Today at 10:15:22 amPeople talking about "far right" was that not the NF, BNP?Crazy when you think about it, we have people on here today who are going to vote for a party who are to the right of previous versions of both Tory and Liberals, Tories who are to the left of previous versions of Labour!Its becoming a very muddled middle ground, pick a version of a centrist party, you have many to choose from, not a great deal of difference between them when it comes to the actual implantation of policy.Whoever was going to win the GE was always going to be implementing a broad range of their policy in exactly the same way.This is going to store up a good deal of issues going forward leading to some pretty unsavoury choices down the line. A party with vision would be able to take that into consideration and plan to ensure the future does not look dire.Do we have anyone with that vision?Here's your chance to name policies with vision that you would support dd.What would be the point in that?The way the country is now governed is not going to change, i don't know if you've noticed being an immigrant and all that, but the whole political apparatus is now rigged to such an extent that going forwards we will have the same choices, there's no such thing as right and left wing anymore, that gone and any parties that push that narrative are going to be in the wilderness until such a time as the country gets so fed up and has had its fill of politicians telling the nation what's going to happen, should it not be the other way around?Regardless of who you vote for in this election when it comes down to the actual process of implementing policy we are going to be getting virtually the same from whoever's in power. Taxes will rise, services will be cut and the same issues we have now will just multiply as we go forward.No such thing as Labour, Tory and Liberal any more, just a bunch of social democrats who cannot see beyond their noses.It would show you are not just flannelling and do have an idea of what you really want.Would that be the same flanneling that you subject every poor bugger on here to constantly? that one?
Quote from: danumdon on Today at 10:32:40 amQuote from: SydneyRover on Today at 10:19:06 amQuote from: danumdon on Today at 10:15:22 amPeople talking about "far right" was that not the NF, BNP?Crazy when you think about it, we have people on here today who are going to vote for a party who are to the right of previous versions of both Tory and Liberals, Tories who are to the left of previous versions of Labour!Its becoming a very muddled middle ground, pick a version of a centrist party, you have many to choose from, not a great deal of difference between them when it comes to the actual implantation of policy.Whoever was going to win the GE was always going to be implementing a broad range of their policy in exactly the same way.This is going to store up a good deal of issues going forward leading to some pretty unsavoury choices down the line. A party with vision would be able to take that into consideration and plan to ensure the future does not look dire.Do we have anyone with that vision?Here's your chance to name policies with vision that you would support dd.What would be the point in that?The way the country is now governed is not going to change, i don't know if you've noticed being an immigrant and all that, but the whole political apparatus is now rigged to such an extent that going forwards we will have the same choices, there's no such thing as right and left wing anymore, that gone and any parties that push that narrative are going to be in the wilderness until such a time as the country gets so fed up and has had its fill of politicians telling the nation what's going to happen, should it not be the other way around?Regardless of who you vote for in this election when it comes down to the actual process of implementing policy we are going to be getting virtually the same from whoever's in power. Taxes will rise, services will be cut and the same issues we have now will just multiply as we go forward.No such thing as Labour, Tory and Liberal any more, just a bunch of social democrats who cannot see beyond their noses.It would show you are not just flannelling and do have an idea of what you really want.
Quote from: SydneyRover on Today at 10:19:06 amQuote from: danumdon on Today at 10:15:22 amPeople talking about "far right" was that not the NF, BNP?Crazy when you think about it, we have people on here today who are going to vote for a party who are to the right of previous versions of both Tory and Liberals, Tories who are to the left of previous versions of Labour!Its becoming a very muddled middle ground, pick a version of a centrist party, you have many to choose from, not a great deal of difference between them when it comes to the actual implantation of policy.Whoever was going to win the GE was always going to be implementing a broad range of their policy in exactly the same way.This is going to store up a good deal of issues going forward leading to some pretty unsavoury choices down the line. A party with vision would be able to take that into consideration and plan to ensure the future does not look dire.Do we have anyone with that vision?Here's your chance to name policies with vision that you would support dd.What would be the point in that?The way the country is now governed is not going to change, i don't know if you've noticed being an immigrant and all that, but the whole political apparatus is now rigged to such an extent that going forwards we will have the same choices, there's no such thing as right and left wing anymore, that gone and any parties that push that narrative are going to be in the wilderness until such a time as the country gets so fed up and has had its fill of politicians telling the nation what's going to happen, should it not be the other way around?Regardless of who you vote for in this election when it comes down to the actual process of implementing policy we are going to be getting virtually the same from whoever's in power. Taxes will rise, services will be cut and the same issues we have now will just multiply as we go forward.No such thing as Labour, Tory and Liberal any more, just a bunch of social democrats who cannot see beyond their noses.
Quote from: danumdon on Today at 10:15:22 amPeople talking about "far right" was that not the NF, BNP?Crazy when you think about it, we have people on here today who are going to vote for a party who are to the right of previous versions of both Tory and Liberals, Tories who are to the left of previous versions of Labour!Its becoming a very muddled middle ground, pick a version of a centrist party, you have many to choose from, not a great deal of difference between them when it comes to the actual implantation of policy.Whoever was going to win the GE was always going to be implementing a broad range of their policy in exactly the same way.This is going to store up a good deal of issues going forward leading to some pretty unsavoury choices down the line. A party with vision would be able to take that into consideration and plan to ensure the future does not look dire.Do we have anyone with that vision?Here's your chance to name policies with vision that you would support dd.
People talking about "far right" was that not the NF, BNP?Crazy when you think about it, we have people on here today who are going to vote for a party who are to the right of previous versions of both Tory and Liberals, Tories who are to the left of previous versions of Labour!Its becoming a very muddled middle ground, pick a version of a centrist party, you have many to choose from, not a great deal of difference between them when it comes to the actual implantation of policy.Whoever was going to win the GE was always going to be implementing a broad range of their policy in exactly the same way.This is going to store up a good deal of issues going forward leading to some pretty unsavoury choices down the line. A party with vision would be able to take that into consideration and plan to ensure the future does not look dire.Do we have anyone with that vision?
No just you dd you're the one that said you want people with vision, yet here you are, can't name one policy with vision that you want.