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Quote from: scawsby steve on June 14, 2024, 05:34:44 amWell well well. I said not to shoot the messenger. I was just commenting on his performance.Personally, I couldn't give a flying f*ck for any of them. None of them will change anything.I don't know why some of you get so uptight about it all. Keith is going to win by a landslide.Then everything will be hunky dory. Won't it?The term "Don't shoot the messenger" which you chose to use, normally applies to a situation where someone is delivering a fact, or several facts, which are expected to be unpopular.You didn't deliver any facts SS, you gave your opinion, which of course you're entitled to.So you weren't really a messenger and therefore you have to accept you might get shot down, or at least challenged.
Well well well. I said not to shoot the messenger. I was just commenting on his performance.Personally, I couldn't give a flying f*ck for any of them. None of them will change anything.I don't know why some of you get so uptight about it all. Keith is going to win by a landslide.Then everything will be hunky dory. Won't it?
Quote from: Herbert Anchovy on June 14, 2024, 08:44:36 amQuote from: rtid88 on June 14, 2024, 06:39:04 amFarage is just a more racist version of Boris Johnson. A lying performer with no actual substance or realistic thoughts. Comes out to rattle the apple cart but when presented with real tough questions flounders or starts shouting his racist extreme right wing rhetoric.These people who think he will look after the working man really are clueless and need to understand just what a con man he is.Stephen Flynn seems to be the only politician brave enough to tackle the issue of Brexit for which Farage simply doesn't have any answer for as he knows he screwed the country by being the front man for the Brexit campaign.It really worries me that Farage, and his party, are so open about their policies that would erode our rights AND reduce our standing and respect around the world, that people would actually vote for this??? Did anyone else see the clip from Question Time a few weeks ago where a member of the audience supported Reform's plan to come out of the ECHR. One of the panellists then pointed out that the ECHR also protects his rights as well as those of immigrants. His response was "I don't care"!!! Unbelievable! How many ordinary Joe Publics resort to the ECHRYou never hear of any it’s usually some t**t trying to dodge Prison or deportation have you any examples to support your claim that it is a Force for good, bearing in mind we live in the most democratic fair minded state on the planet!
Quote from: rtid88 on June 14, 2024, 06:39:04 amFarage is just a more racist version of Boris Johnson. A lying performer with no actual substance or realistic thoughts. Comes out to rattle the apple cart but when presented with real tough questions flounders or starts shouting his racist extreme right wing rhetoric.These people who think he will look after the working man really are clueless and need to understand just what a con man he is.Stephen Flynn seems to be the only politician brave enough to tackle the issue of Brexit for which Farage simply doesn't have any answer for as he knows he screwed the country by being the front man for the Brexit campaign.It really worries me that Farage, and his party, are so open about their policies that would erode our rights AND reduce our standing and respect around the world, that people would actually vote for this??? Did anyone else see the clip from Question Time a few weeks ago where a member of the audience supported Reform's plan to come out of the ECHR. One of the panellists then pointed out that the ECHR also protects his rights as well as those of immigrants. His response was "I don't care"!!! Unbelievable!
Farage is just a more racist version of Boris Johnson. A lying performer with no actual substance or realistic thoughts. Comes out to rattle the apple cart but when presented with real tough questions flounders or starts shouting his racist extreme right wing rhetoric.These people who think he will look after the working man really are clueless and need to understand just what a con man he is.Stephen Flynn seems to be the only politician brave enough to tackle the issue of Brexit for which Farage simply doesn't have any answer for as he knows he screwed the country by being the front man for the Brexit campaign.
Quote from: Sprotyrover on June 14, 2024, 11:11:22 amQuote from: Herbert Anchovy on June 14, 2024, 08:44:36 amQuote from: rtid88 on June 14, 2024, 06:39:04 amFarage is just a more racist version of Boris Johnson. A lying performer with no actual substance or realistic thoughts. Comes out to rattle the apple cart but when presented with real tough questions flounders or starts shouting his racist extreme right wing rhetoric.These people who think he will look after the working man really are clueless and need to understand just what a con man he is.Stephen Flynn seems to be the only politician brave enough to tackle the issue of Brexit for which Farage simply doesn't have any answer for as he knows he screwed the country by being the front man for the Brexit campaign.It really worries me that Farage, and his party, are so open about their policies that would erode our rights AND reduce our standing and respect around the world, that people would actually vote for this??? Did anyone else see the clip from Question Time a few weeks ago where a member of the audience supported Reform's plan to come out of the ECHR. One of the panellists then pointed out that the ECHR also protects his rights as well as those of immigrants. His response was "I don't care"!!! Unbelievable! How many ordinary Joe Publics resort to the ECHRYou never hear of any it’s usually some t**t trying to dodge Prison or deportation have you any examples to support your claim that it is a Force for good, bearing in mind we live in the most democratic fair minded state on the planet!The ECHR protects the individual from the state. So every one of us benefits from this protection every day. Your right to freely express your view on here (and anywhere else) is protected by the ECHR. Russia has withdrawn from the ECHR and consequently freedom of speech is heavily restricted there.
Quote from: Herbert Anchovy on June 14, 2024, 08:44:36 amQuote from: rtid88 on June 14, 2024, 06:39:04 amFarage is just a more racist version of Boris Johnson. A lying performer with no actual substance or realistic thoughts. Comes out to rattle the apple cart but when presented with real tough questions flounders or starts shouting his racist extreme right wing rhetoric.These people who think he will look after the working man really are clueless and need to understand just what a con man he is.Stephen Flynn seems to be the only politician brave enough to tackle the issue of Brexit for which Farage simply doesn't have any answer for as he knows he screwed the country by being the front man for the Brexit campaign.It really worries me that Farage, and his party, are so open about their policies that would erode our rights AND reduce our standing and respect around the world, that people would actually vote for this??? Did anyone else see the clip from Question Time a few weeks ago where a member of the audience supported Reform's plan to come out of the ECHR. One of the panellists then pointed out that the ECHR also protects his rights as well as those of immigrants. His response was "I don't care"!!! Unbelievable! How many ordinary Joe Publics resort to the ECHRYou never hear of any it’s usually some t**t trying to dodge Prison or deportation have you any examples to support your claim that it is a Force for good, bearing in mind we live in the most democratic fair minded state on the planet!
Quote from: rtid88 on June 14, 2024, 06:39:04 amFarage is just a more racist version of Boris Johnson. A lying performer with no actual substance or realistic thoughts. Comes out to rattle the apple cart but when presented with real tough questions flounders or starts shouting his racist extreme right wing rhetoric.These people who think he will look after the working man really are clueless and need to understand just what a con man he is.Stephen Flynn seems to be the only politician brave enough to tackle the issue of Brexit for which Farage simply doesn't have any answer for as he knows he screwed the country by being the front man for the Brexit campaign.It really worries me that Farage, and his party, are so open about their policies that would erode our rights AND reduce our standing and respect around the world, that people would actually vote for this??? Did anyone else see the clip from Question Time a few weeks ago where a member of the audience supported Reform's plan to come out of the ECHR. One of the panellists then pointed out that the ECHR also protects his rights as well as those of immigrants. His response was "I don't care"!!! Unbelievable!
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on June 14, 2024, 11:56:21 amQuote from: Sprotyrover on June 14, 2024, 11:11:22 amQuote from: Herbert Anchovy on June 14, 2024, 08:44:36 amQuote from: rtid88 on June 14, 2024, 06:39:04 amFarage is just a more racist version of Boris Johnson. A lying performer with no actual substance or realistic thoughts. Comes out to rattle the apple cart but when presented with real tough questions flounders or starts shouting his racist extreme right wing rhetoric.These people who think he will look after the working man really are clueless and need to understand just what a con man he is.Stephen Flynn seems to be the only politician brave enough to tackle the issue of Brexit for which Farage simply doesn't have any answer for as he knows he screwed the country by being the front man for the Brexit campaign.It really worries me that Farage, and his party, are so open about their policies that would erode our rights AND reduce our standing and respect around the world, that people would actually vote for this??? Did anyone else see the clip from Question Time a few weeks ago where a member of the audience supported Reform's plan to come out of the ECHR. One of the panellists then pointed out that the ECHR also protects his rights as well as those of immigrants. His response was "I don't care"!!! Unbelievable! How many ordinary Joe Publics resort to the ECHRYou never hear of any it’s usually some t**t trying to dodge Prison or deportation have you any examples to support your claim that it is a Force for good, bearing in mind we live in the most democratic fair minded state on the planet!You mean that country that literally rounded up British citizens and shipped them to the Caribbean in the Windrush scandal?Or the country that still refuses to give my brother in law the passport he has a right to?Now.Those are things that a right wing Govt has done in this country while it still has done degree of control imposed on it. Close your eyes for a moment and imagine what a Farage-Braverman Govt would do if it was let off the leash.Why is your BiL denied a passport if he has a right ?
Quote from: Sprotyrover on June 14, 2024, 11:11:22 amQuote from: Herbert Anchovy on June 14, 2024, 08:44:36 amQuote from: rtid88 on June 14, 2024, 06:39:04 amFarage is just a more racist version of Boris Johnson. A lying performer with no actual substance or realistic thoughts. Comes out to rattle the apple cart but when presented with real tough questions flounders or starts shouting his racist extreme right wing rhetoric.These people who think he will look after the working man really are clueless and need to understand just what a con man he is.Stephen Flynn seems to be the only politician brave enough to tackle the issue of Brexit for which Farage simply doesn't have any answer for as he knows he screwed the country by being the front man for the Brexit campaign.It really worries me that Farage, and his party, are so open about their policies that would erode our rights AND reduce our standing and respect around the world, that people would actually vote for this??? Did anyone else see the clip from Question Time a few weeks ago where a member of the audience supported Reform's plan to come out of the ECHR. One of the panellists then pointed out that the ECHR also protects his rights as well as those of immigrants. His response was "I don't care"!!! Unbelievable! How many ordinary Joe Publics resort to the ECHRYou never hear of any it’s usually some t**t trying to dodge Prison or deportation have you any examples to support your claim that it is a Force for good, bearing in mind we live in the most democratic fair minded state on the planet!You mean that country that literally rounded up British citizens and shipped them to the Caribbean in the Windrush scandal?Or the country that still refuses to give my brother in law the passport he has a right to?Now.Those are things that a right wing Govt has done in this country while it still has done degree of control imposed on it. Close your eyes for a moment and imagine what a Farage-Braverman Govt would do if it was let off the leash.
Quote from: Herbert Anchovy on June 14, 2024, 08:44:36 amQuote from: rtid88 on June 14, 2024, 06:39:04 amFarage is just a more racist version of Boris Johnson. A lying performer with no actual substance or realistic thoughts. Comes out to rattle the apple cart but when presented with real tough questions flounders or starts shouting his racist extreme right wing rhetoric.These people who think he will look after the working man really are clueless and need to understand just what a con man he is.Stephen Flynn seems to be the only politician brave enough to tackle the issue of Brexit for which Farage simply doesn't have any answer for as he knows he screwed the country by being the front man for the Brexit campaign.It really worries me that Farage, and his party, are so open about their policies that would erode our rights AND reduce our standing and respect around the world, that people would actually vote for this??? Did anyone else see the clip from Question Time a few weeks ago where a member of the audience supported Reform's plan to come out of the ECHR. One of the panellists then pointed out that the ECHR also protects his rights as well as those of immigrants. His response was "I don't care"!!! Unbelievable! How many ordinary Joe Publics resort to the ECHRYou never hear of any it’s usually some t**t trying to dodge Prison or deportation have you any examples to support your claim that it is a Force for good, bearing in mind we live in the most democratic fair minded state on the planet!
Quote from: rtid88 on June 14, 2024, 06:39:04 amFarage is just a more racist version of Boris Johnson. A lying performer with no actual substance or realistic thoughts. Comes out to rattle the apple cart but when presented with real tough questions flounders or starts shouting his racist extreme right wing rhetoric.These people who think he will look after the working man really are clueless and need to understand just what a con man he is.Stephen Flynn seems to be the only politician brave enough to tackle the issue of Brexit for which Farage simply doesn't have any answer for as he knows he screwed the country by being the front man for the Brexit campaign.It really worries me that Farage, and his party, are so open about their policies that would erode our rights AND reduce our standing and respect around the world, that people would actually vote for this??? Did anyone else see the clip from Question Time a few weeks ago where a member of the audience supported Reform's plan to come out of the ECHR. One of the panellists then pointed out that the ECHR also protects his rights as well as those of immigrants. His response was "I don't care"!!! Unbelievable!
Quote from: Ldr on June 14, 2024, 12:40:07 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on June 14, 2024, 11:56:21 amQuote from: Sprotyrover on June 14, 2024, 11:11:22 amQuote from: Herbert Anchovy on June 14, 2024, 08:44:36 amQuote from: rtid88 on June 14, 2024, 06:39:04 amFarage is just a more racist version of Boris Johnson. A lying performer with no actual substance or realistic thoughts. Comes out to rattle the apple cart but when presented with real tough questions flounders or starts shouting his racist extreme right wing rhetoric.These people who think he will look after the working man really are clueless and need to understand just what a con man he is.Stephen Flynn seems to be the only politician brave enough to tackle the issue of Brexit for which Farage simply doesn't have any answer for as he knows he screwed the country by being the front man for the Brexit campaign.It really worries me that Farage, and his party, are so open about their policies that would erode our rights AND reduce our standing and respect around the world, that people would actually vote for this??? Did anyone else see the clip from Question Time a few weeks ago where a member of the audience supported Reform's plan to come out of the ECHR. One of the panellists then pointed out that the ECHR also protects his rights as well as those of immigrants. His response was "I don't care"!!! Unbelievable! How many ordinary Joe Publics resort to the ECHRYou never hear of any it’s usually some t**t trying to dodge Prison or deportation have you any examples to support your claim that it is a Force for good, bearing in mind we live in the most democratic fair minded state on the planet!You mean that country that literally rounded up British citizens and shipped them to the Caribbean in the Windrush scandal?Or the country that still refuses to give my brother in law the passport he has a right to?Now.Those are things that a right wing Govt has done in this country while it still has done degree of control imposed on it. Close your eyes for a moment and imagine what a Farage-Braverman Govt would do if it was let off the leash.Why is your BiL denied a passport if he has a right ?Very long story which I've recounted on here before.Basically his Italian father had indefinite leave to remain in the UK from the early 70s. When he died in 2003, leaving an Italian wife and an 8 year old son who had been born and brought up in the UK, his wife who didn't have leave to remain went back to Italy with the kid.As the son of a father with indefinite LTR, and having been born in the UK, the son has the legal right to claim British citizenship.But the Theresa May Home Office refused his case because they said it was up to him to prove his father (who had lived in the UK for 33 years, raised three kids here, got a degree here, worked in the NHS and set up a successful company) had LTR. Which the son couldn't do because the documents had been lost in the chaotic circumstances of his father's death, mother's mental breakdown and their move to Italy.We made this point to the HO numerous times, and pointed out it was the HO themselves who had given the LTR and so presumably they had records. That produced a response that in essence said "tough shit. Your problem."And we have never been able to get his British citizenship to this day.His response has been to forge a very successful career first in Italy, now elsewhere in the EU. He could have been doing that in our economy. But hey, we kept another wog out, so that's nice.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on June 14, 2024, 11:56:21 amQuote from: Sprotyrover on June 14, 2024, 11:11:22 amQuote from: Herbert Anchovy on June 14, 2024, 08:44:36 amQuote from: rtid88 on June 14, 2024, 06:39:04 amFarage is just a more racist version of Boris Johnson. A lying performer with no actual substance or realistic thoughts. Comes out to rattle the apple cart but when presented with real tough questions flounders or starts shouting his racist extreme right wing rhetoric.These people who think he will look after the working man really are clueless and need to understand just what a con man he is.Stephen Flynn seems to be the only politician brave enough to tackle the issue of Brexit for which Farage simply doesn't have any answer for as he knows he screwed the country by being the front man for the Brexit campaign.It really worries me that Farage, and his party, are so open about their policies that would erode our rights AND reduce our standing and respect around the world, that people would actually vote for this??? Did anyone else see the clip from Question Time a few weeks ago where a member of the audience supported Reform's plan to come out of the ECHR. One of the panellists then pointed out that the ECHR also protects his rights as well as those of immigrants. His response was "I don't care"!!! Unbelievable! How many ordinary Joe Publics resort to the ECHRYou never hear of any it’s usually some t**t trying to dodge Prison or deportation have you any examples to support your claim that it is a Force for good, bearing in mind we live in the most democratic fair minded state on the planet!You mean that country that literally rounded up British citizens and shipped them to the Caribbean in the Windrush scandal?Or the country that still refuses to give my brother in law the passport he has a right to?Now.Those are things that a right wing Govt has done in this country while it still has done degree of control imposed on it. Close your eyes for a moment and imagine what a Farage-Braverman Govt would do if it was let off the leash.Why is your BiL denied a passport if he has a right ?
Quote from: Sprotyrover on June 14, 2024, 11:11:22 amQuote from: Herbert Anchovy on June 14, 2024, 08:44:36 amQuote from: rtid88 on June 14, 2024, 06:39:04 amFarage is just a more racist version of Boris Johnson. A lying performer with no actual substance or realistic thoughts. Comes out to rattle the apple cart but when presented with real tough questions flounders or starts shouting his racist extreme right wing rhetoric.These people who think he will look after the working man really are clueless and need to understand just what a con man he is.Stephen Flynn seems to be the only politician brave enough to tackle the issue of Brexit for which Farage simply doesn't have any answer for as he knows he screwed the country by being the front man for the Brexit campaign.It really worries me that Farage, and his party, are so open about their policies that would erode our rights AND reduce our standing and respect around the world, that people would actually vote for this??? Did anyone else see the clip from Question Time a few weeks ago where a member of the audience supported Reform's plan to come out of the ECHR. One of the panellists then pointed out that the ECHR also protects his rights as well as those of immigrants. His response was "I don't care"!!! Unbelievable! How many ordinary Joe Publics resort to the ECHRYou never hear of any it’s usually some t**t trying to dodge Prison or deportation have you any examples to support your claim that it is a Force for good, bearing in mind we live in the most democratic fair minded state on the planet!You mean that country that literally rounded up British citizens and shipped them to the Caribbean in the Windrush scandal?Or the country that still refuses to give my brother in law the passport he has a right to?Now.Those are things that a right wing Govt has done in this country while it still has done degree of control imposed on it. Close your eyes for a moment and imagine what a Farage-Braverman Govt would do if it was let off the leash.
Quote from: Herbert Anchovy on June 14, 2024, 08:44:36 amQuote from: rtid88 on June 14, 2024, 06:39:04 amFarage is just a more racist version of Boris Johnson. A lying performer with no actual substance or realistic thoughts. Comes out to rattle the apple cart but when presented with real tough questions flounders or starts shouting his racist extreme right wing rhetoric.These people who think he will look after the working man really are clueless and need to understand just what a con man he is.Stephen Flynn seems to be the only politician brave enough to tackle the issue of Brexit for which Farage simply doesn't have any answer for as he knows he screwed the country by being the front man for the Brexit campaign.It really worries me that Farage, and his party, are so open about their policies that would erode our rights AND reduce our standing and respect around the world, that people would actually vote for this??? Did anyone else see the clip from Question Time a few weeks ago where a member of the audience supported Reform's plan to come out of the ECHR. One of the panellists then pointed out that the ECHR also protects his rights as well as those of immigrants. His response was "I don't care"!!! Unbelievable! How many ordinary Joe Publics resort to the ECHRYou never hear of any it’s usually some t**t trying to dodge Prison or deportation have you any examples to support your claim that it is a Force for good, bearing in mind we live in the most democratic fair minded state on the planet!
Quote from: rtid88 on June 14, 2024, 06:39:04 amFarage is just a more racist version of Boris Johnson. A lying performer with no actual substance or realistic thoughts. Comes out to rattle the apple cart but when presented with real tough questions flounders or starts shouting his racist extreme right wing rhetoric.These people who think he will look after the working man really are clueless and need to understand just what a con man he is.Stephen Flynn seems to be the only politician brave enough to tackle the issue of Brexit for which Farage simply doesn't have any answer for as he knows he screwed the country by being the front man for the Brexit campaign.It really worries me that Farage, and his party, are so open about their policies that would erode our rights AND reduce our standing and respect around the world, that people would actually vote for this??? Did anyone else see the clip from Question Time a few weeks ago where a member of the audience supported Reform's plan to come out of the ECHR. One of the panellists then pointed out that the ECHR also protects his rights as well as those of immigrants. His response was "I don't care"!!! Unbelievable!
Do you wonder why I f**king despise this lot? They f**k over people's lives to satisfy bigots.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on June 15, 2024, 09:56:56 amDo you wonder why I f**king despise this lot? They f**k over people's lives to satisfy bigots.But they make it easier to identify the bigots
It doesn't matter if you have evil intentions - providing you are good at what you do. Farage on PutinGo on - vote for someone who thinks that being good at being evil is a desirable characteristic - you deserve him/it.https://x.com/BBCPolitics/status/1801556058638307426
Look in a mirror BB.BobG
I love Farage. I love Putin. I love Trump.
Superb you must have been close to a mirror. And tinged with just a little hate detected there Billy it's part of your makeup and a weakness.These are first hand accounts from people very close to Farage and what they think, you appear to know better selby .......... have you been that close to him?
Here's what people who have known him think ............He's a c***oops not that, this‘''He was a deeply unembarrassed racist’: Nigel Farage, by those who have known him''https://www.theguardian.com/politics/ng-interactive/2024/jun/14/he-was-a-deeply-unembarrassed-racist-nigel-farage-by-those-who-have-known-him
Quote from: wilts rover on June 15, 2024, 10:01:24 amQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on June 15, 2024, 09:56:56 amDo you wonder why I f**king despise this lot? They f**k over people's lives to satisfy bigots.But they make it easier to identify the bigotsWilts, what is a bigot?
To those who are thinking of voting Farage... you aren't a fascist or a racist, that's simply all the left have got: name calling and intimidation. They'll look down their nose at you and act like they're more educated than you and that your opinion doesn't matter....ironically behaving just like the Tories they despiseThey'll equate not wanting undecated homeless immigrants with not wanting immigration of educated folks, students, NHS workers....that's not true and not an equalityThey might even tell you to vote green.....while the green candidates swear jihadDon't be intimated, vote how you want