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I see Farage has doubled down again today on saying the West "provoked" Putin into invading Ukraine.Exactly, precisely the same justification Putin uses.Just so you know what you're voting for lads...
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on June 21, 2024, 08:19:10 pmI see Farage has doubled down again today on saying the West "provoked" Putin into invading Ukraine.Exactly, precisely the same justification Putin uses.Just so you know what you're voting for lads...He's right though. The reason Putin has gone to war is this. Doesn't mean it's right or saying it's our fault. In fact if you go past your BBC headline he even says it's Putin's fault. He's simply predicted this and what would happen and it has. Again not that what Putin has done is right.
I see Farage has doubled down again today on saying the West "provoked" Putin into invading Ukraine.Exactly, precisely the same justification Putin uses.Just so you know what you're voting for lads...[/quoteFarage is correct!
Quote from: Padge_DRFC on June 21, 2024, 08:28:32 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on June 21, 2024, 08:19:10 pmI see Farage has doubled down again today on saying the West "provoked" Putin into invading Ukraine.Exactly, precisely the same justification Putin uses.Just so you know what you're voting for lads...He's right though. The reason Putin has gone to war is this. Doesn't mean it's right or saying it's our fault. In fact if you go past your BBC headline he even says it's Putin's fault. He's simply predicted this and what would happen and it has. Again not that what Putin has done is right.but that would mean you couldn't possibly do anything because putin would find a reason to blame you and then farage would cry foul
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on June 21, 2024, 08:19:10 pmI see Farage has doubled down again today on saying the West "provoked" Putin into invading Ukraine.Exactly, precisely the same justification Putin uses.Just so you know what you're voting for lads...He's right though. The reason Putin has gone to war is this. Doesn't mean it's right or saying it's our fault. In fact if you go past your BBC headline he even says it's Putin's fault. He's simply predicted this and what would happen and it has. Again not that what Putin has done is right.
I see Farage has doubled down again today on saying the West "provoked" Putin into invading Ukraine.Exactly, precisely the same justification Putin uses.Just so you know what you're voting for lads...
He's doing what he very skilfully does. He's providing a justification for those who want to hear it.What actually happened was that the people of countries that have spent centuries being dominated by Russia chose a path to give them security against Russia. THAT'S why they joined the EU and NATO.Farage could have said that of course. But he doesn't want that discussion to be had. Because he's a Putin apologist. He knows he can't get away with saying he supports Putin's invasion. But he can't stop himself from saying he supports Putin's own justifications.
If one man shoots another dead because he looked at him funny…Was the victim killed because he looked at him funny or because the murderer was a deranged lunatic?
Quote from: ncRover on June 21, 2024, 10:30:32 pmIf one man shoots another dead because he looked at him funny…Was the victim killed because he looked at him funny or because the murderer was a deranged lunatic?Bit of a bad analogy maybe if he punched him because he looked at him funny, as happens frequently in Doncaster Town centre pubs
Seem to be people on here who are prepared to fight to the last drop of someone else's blood. What's the solution to Ukraine? Forever war? Well that suits the arms manufacturers. Tell me are there anyone on here who has accommodated Ukraine people or contemplated doing so at their own expense? Yet haven't extended their virtue to African's?Can I do a James O'Brien piece of nonsense and ask is that because you're racist?
Quote from: Smyth on June 22, 2024, 06:26:10 amSeem to be people on here who are prepared to fight to the last drop of someone else's blood. What's the solution to Ukraine? Forever war? Well that suits the arms manufacturers. Tell me are there anyone on here who has accommodated Ukraine people or contemplated doing so at their own expense? Yet haven't extended their virtue to African's?Can I do a James O'Brien piece of nonsense and ask is that because you're racist?And you reckon he stops at Ukraine if he wins there?
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on June 22, 2024, 10:37:50 amQuote from: Smyth on June 22, 2024, 06:26:10 amSeem to be people on here who are prepared to fight to the last drop of someone else's blood. What's the solution to Ukraine? Forever war? Well that suits the arms manufacturers. Tell me are there anyone on here who has accommodated Ukraine people or contemplated doing so at their own expense? Yet haven't extended their virtue to African's?Can I do a James O'Brien piece of nonsense and ask is that because you're racist?And you reckon he stops at Ukraine if he wins there?Of course he will, no way will he attack another country. It's all about ukraine and how it's historically intertwined with Russia.
Quote from: TonySoprano on June 22, 2024, 10:55:12 amQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on June 22, 2024, 10:37:50 amQuote from: Smyth on June 22, 2024, 06:26:10 amSeem to be people on here who are prepared to fight to the last drop of someone else's blood. What's the solution to Ukraine? Forever war? Well that suits the arms manufacturers. Tell me are there anyone on here who has accommodated Ukraine people or contemplated doing so at their own expense? Yet haven't extended their virtue to African's?Can I do a James O'Brien piece of nonsense and ask is that because you're racist?And you reckon he stops at Ukraine if he wins there?Of course he will, no way will he attack another country. It's all about ukraine and how it's historically intertwined with Russia. Like how the Sudetenland was historically linked to Germany, eh?
I would suggest he grabs the gap separating Russia from Kalingrad. Putin can overrun the Baltic states of Latvia, Lithuania and Latvia in a day or 2.He now has several hundred thousand battle hardened Veterans to call up! Best not poke the Bear!
Quote from: Sprotyrover on June 22, 2024, 11:05:29 amI would suggest he grabs the gap separating Russia from Kalingrad. Putin can overrun the Baltic states of Latvia, Lithuania and Latvia in a day or 2.He now has several hundred thousand battle hardened Veterans to call up! Best not poke the Bear!Thats just Fantasy, Typhoons, F16’s, and F35’s would obliterate his battle hardened troops and the Russia airforce is no match for the Nato air defences
Here's Farage trebling down in it.https://x.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1804271596280123398Let's just think about what he's doing here.The former Warsaw Pact countries made democratic choices to join the EU and have mainly become prosperous for doing so.Putin sent tanks into a sovereign country, where his troops raped babies and tied civilians up in basements.And here's Farage bothsidesing this.He's an evil Kitson.
Quote from: Filo on June 22, 2024, 11:29:53 amQuote from: Sprotyrover on June 22, 2024, 11:05:29 amI would suggest he grabs the gap separating Russia from Kalingrad. Putin can overrun the Baltic states of Latvia, Lithuania and Latvia in a day or 2.He now has several hundred thousand battle hardened Veterans to call up! Best not poke the Bear!Thats just Fantasy, Typhoons, F16’s, and F35’s would obliterate his battle hardened troops and the Russia airforce is no match for the Nato air defencesAgreed, so why are rabble rousers on here trying to say he has eyes on all of Easter Europe!