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no confirmation that ch 4 hired an actor from farage then?https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c2504p02wz3t#playerhere it is
Quote from: SydneyRover on June 28, 2024, 11:03:07 pmno confirmation that ch 4 hired an actor from farage then?https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c2504p02wz3t#playerhere it isWhy did the guy use his acting voice/accent rather than his real one?https://x.com/jamesks92/status/1806635327605400052?t=agYz_7uHLlL0cIEMbyZ2vA&s=19
If hospitals had 24/7 operations running where would the patients go after surgery? There is a chronic shortage of beds in all hospitals. At Bradford Royal Infirmary it takes hours to get a bed allocated after being referred and I imagine it is the same at most other hospitals. My wife was a nurse for 25 years and some days spent hours ringing round the wards trying to arrange beds for patients.
Quote from: tyke1962 on June 28, 2024, 06:39:44 pmAccording to the Sheffield Star the two Barnsley seats could be a pretty close run thing with only 5% separating Labour and Reform .It will certainly be interesting when the polls close next week but I would expect Labour to hold on .https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/polls-show-reform-closing-in-on-labour-in-stronghold-barnsley-seats/ar-BB1p3tMy?ocid=socialshareThere's a choice for you then Tyke. Real choice.Do you allow one of Farage's mob to get in to represent you?
According to the Sheffield Star the two Barnsley seats could be a pretty close run thing with only 5% separating Labour and Reform .It will certainly be interesting when the polls close next week but I would expect Labour to hold on .https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/polls-show-reform-closing-in-on-labour-in-stronghold-barnsley-seats/ar-BB1p3tMy?ocid=socialshare
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on June 28, 2024, 09:15:40 pmQuote from: tyke1962 on June 28, 2024, 06:39:44 pmAccording to the Sheffield Star the two Barnsley seats could be a pretty close run thing with only 5% separating Labour and Reform .It will certainly be interesting when the polls close next week but I would expect Labour to hold on .https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/polls-show-reform-closing-in-on-labour-in-stronghold-barnsley-seats/ar-BB1p3tMy?ocid=socialshareThere's a choice for you then Tyke. Real choice.Do you allow one of Farage's mob to get in to represent you?First of all it's not my fault I'm faced with this dilemma .In a democracy I should be able to vote for the candidate I agree with the most .The real issue here is why have the Labour Party after decades upon decades of taking these two seats easily are now in danger of losing them ? These two seats were probably the safest two Labour seats in the country .What ever you might think Billy the electorate aren't stupid and Barnsley people certainly aren't .Personally and looking at this locally rather than nationally Jarvis has always served the town competently and the Labour Council have done a remarkable job in rebuilding the town centre and making it a very prosperous and vibrant place .The downside is I'm putting a man who I seriously don't like and don't trust as a consequence in number 10 .So I'll vote for Jarvis on Thursday on account of his record in Barnsley and the work he put in with the council in regenerating the town centre .
Whatever reasoning you need to justify it to yourself Tyke. Just do it. Because the alternative is worse.As I've been saying for years. This is real life. f**king hard choices.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on June 29, 2024, 11:32:01 amWhatever reasoning you need to justify it to yourself Tyke. Just do it. Because the alternative is worse.As I've been saying for years. This is real life. f**king hard choices.There's no way I can personally allow Reform to come into my constituency after what Jarvis and the council have achieved with the town centre .This isn't because of the colour of their rosette but the determination and enterprise they've shown as people .The way I see it is that we've one quality player in the team whilst the rest are about as convincing as Gareth Southgate .There are town's in the North and the Midlands with Labour MPs and Labour councils who haven't what it takes to have pulled off what they've achieved in my town .Starmer would do well to come up to Barnsley and take some lessons in what's achievable when there's a real will and determination to deliver when everything is stacked against you .I'll hear none of his belly aching on what he's inherited thanks very much , my proof is in the pudding .
As to the comments made by the actor in Clacton, despicable, and no doubt if a undercover agent entered any Mosque in Rochdale, Rotherham, Blackburn, Oldham, Bradford, and had the teachings translated the same language would be prevalent quoting antiseitism racial language. In fact senior labour Party members have been quoted using that kind of language, party workers in those areas are known to use that sort of language prostituting themselves for the Islamic vote from the Muslim population, and have ended up with just a slapped wrist by saying an underwhelming sorry about that I didn't mean it the way it sounded. Diane Abbott a high profile case in hand, and just brushed aside without the attempted character assassination by the lefty media. Reality is t here is a percentage of the population that think exactly the way the actor was set up to broadcast his diatribe, and they will be drawn to the Reform vote, and sh*t sticks and Farage has turned the subject to, has it been a underhand set up? something that is an unknown but people will say is correct, if he wins the joust now the broadcasters are now on the defensive and if really found out their masters are in big doo doo just in the last throw of the dice, whatever you think of Farage, he is a smart cookie, the squabble now to the election day he will claim the establishment has been underhand and shout foul for the rest of the election run in and point the finger, which will get him on the attack on the final straight to the election. If there is just a sniff of underhand broadcasting the s**t will hit the fan
Quote from: idler on June 29, 2024, 10:38:02 amIf hospitals had 24/7 operations running where would the patients go after surgery? There is a chronic shortage of beds in all hospitals. At Bradford Royal Infirmary it takes hours to get a bed allocated after being referred and I imagine it is the same at most other hospitals. My wife was a nurse for 25 years and some days spent hours ringing round the wards trying to arrange beds for patients.I think the conversation was more about 24 hour round the clock outpatient appointments idler, rather than around the clock surgery.
Quote from: selby on June 29, 2024, 12:46:49 pm As to the comments made by the actor in Clacton, despicable, and no doubt if a undercover agent entered any Mosque in Rochdale, Rotherham, Blackburn, Oldham, Bradford, and had the teachings translated the same language would be prevalent quoting antiseitism racial language. In fact senior labour Party members have been quoted using that kind of language, party workers in those areas are known to use that sort of language prostituting themselves for the Islamic vote from the Muslim population, and have ended up with just a slapped wrist by saying an underwhelming sorry about that I didn't mean it the way it sounded. Diane Abbott a high profile case in hand, and just brushed aside without the attempted character assassination by the lefty media. Reality is t here is a percentage of the population that think exactly the way the actor was set up to broadcast his diatribe, and they will be drawn to the Reform vote, and sh*t sticks and Farage has turned the subject to, has it been a underhand set up? something that is an unknown but people will say is correct, if he wins the joust now the broadcasters are now on the defensive and if really found out their masters are in big doo doo just in the last throw of the dice, whatever you think of Farage, he is a smart cookie, the squabble now to the election day he will claim the establishment has been underhand and shout foul for the rest of the election run in and point the finger, which will get him on the attack on the final straight to the election. If there is just a sniff of underhand broadcasting the s**t will hit the fan i'll translate that verbal diarrhoea."I'm going to vote RefUK despite them being full of bigoted Kitsons. Because..."
Quote from: tyke1962 on June 29, 2024, 12:45:27 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on June 29, 2024, 11:32:01 amWhatever reasoning you need to justify it to yourself Tyke. Just do it. Because the alternative is worse.As I've been saying for years. This is real life. f**king hard choices.There's no way I can personally allow Reform to come into my constituency after what Jarvis and the council have achieved with the town centre .This isn't because of the colour of their rosette but the determination and enterprise they've shown as people .The way I see it is that we've one quality player in the team whilst the rest are about as convincing as Gareth Southgate .There are town's in the North and the Midlands with Labour MPs and Labour councils who haven't what it takes to have pulled off what they've achieved in my town .Starmer would do well to come up to Barnsley and take some lessons in what's achievable when there's a real will and determination to deliver when everything is stacked against you .I'll hear none of his belly aching on what he's inherited thanks very much , my proof is in the pudding .It's not complaining tyke it's reality unless you've been asleep for 14 years.Listen to this: https://www.theguardian.com/news/audio/2024/jun/28/the-14-years-that-broke-britain-part-1-podcast
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on June 29, 2024, 12:57:26 pmQuote from: selby on June 29, 2024, 12:46:49 pm As to the comments made by the actor in Clacton, despicable, and no doubt if a undercover agent entered any Mosque in Rochdale, Rotherham, Blackburn, Oldham, Bradford, and had the teachings translated the same language would be prevalent quoting antiseitism racial language. In fact senior labour Party members have been quoted using that kind of language, party workers in those areas are known to use that sort of language prostituting themselves for the Islamic vote from the Muslim population, and have ended up with just a slapped wrist by saying an underwhelming sorry about that I didn't mean it the way it sounded. Diane Abbott a high profile case in hand, and just brushed aside without the attempted character assassination by the lefty media. Reality is t here is a percentage of the population that think exactly the way the actor was set up to broadcast his diatribe, and they will be drawn to the Reform vote, and sh*t sticks and Farage has turned the subject to, has it been a underhand set up? something that is an unknown but people will say is correct, if he wins the joust now the broadcasters are now on the defensive and if really found out their masters are in big doo doo just in the last throw of the dice, whatever you think of Farage, he is a smart cookie, the squabble now to the election day he will claim the establishment has been underhand and shout foul for the rest of the election run in and point the finger, which will get him on the attack on the final straight to the election. If there is just a sniff of underhand broadcasting the s**t will hit the fan i'll translate that verbal diarrhoea."I'm going to vote RefUK despite them being full of bigoted Kitsons. Because..." I don't think People who vote reform understand exactly what rights they're giving up voting for them.Same with Brexit. Admittedly I voted out but an error of judgement and not recognising the facts I'd vote opposite today but you can see how people can be drawn to Reform
When the likes of Farage, Tim Martin and Patrick Minford appeared on BBC's Question Time, the audience was blatantly unbalanced against them, as was the entire panel, including the host!Farage is the most popular politician in the country, and BST is either genuinely out of touch with reality, or he is attempting to kid others along with himself.
No Selby.I don't hate people who disagree with me.I hate bigoted Kitsons.There's a big difference.You want to vote for a party that attracts candidates who say they want to slaughter immigrants on the beaches? Who say blacks need to stop acting like savages? Who say we'd have been better advised doing a deal with Hitler? You want to normalise it by saying other politicians say similar stuff, when they say nothing remotely like that?Fill your boots. Just don't get mardy when I say I despise bigoted Kitsons.
Who's WE? Where are my colours nailed?