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The powers that be know that they need to Germans to remain in the competition.
Havertz completely stopped during his penalty run up. I thought that wasn’t allowed?
Quote from: ncRover on June 29, 2024, 10:19:38 pmHavertz completely stopped during his penalty run up. I thought that wasn’t allowed?Yes he did, why didn’t VAR decide that the pen should have been retaken.
Not sure what's more annoying the VAR decisions or the god awful American woman giving an explanation of every little decision on ITV. Coverage getting more like American football every day
Playing the devils advocate though, its yet again English refs messing it up. VAR been ok until tonight I think?
What the f*** is this analysis? If I wanted a nerdy anorak sport that goes so deep in to technicalities I’d watch F1.
The ref is just applying the law. He’s accountable to that. The law and the technology is what’s ruining it.
But at least we haven't had "Oh he'll be disappointed with that" when a player does something disappointing, or "He's got to hit the target from there" when a player doesn't hit the target. From there.
Quote from: ncRover on June 29, 2024, 10:30:56 pmWhat the f*** is this analysis? If I wanted a nerdy anorak sport that goes so deep in to technicalities I’d watch F1.But you commented about Havertz stopping in his run up to take the pen.
Quote from: pib on June 29, 2024, 10:39:56 pmThe ref is just applying the law. He’s accountable to that. The law and the technology is what’s ruining it.It’s just the laws which are wrong. We can use technology if the rules make sense in the first place. 2 key ones need changing:1. Handball. It’s got to ‘mean it’ like it used to. Like the famous ones that weren’t given (e.g. Maradona, Thierry Henry, Joe Jordan). We all know what intentional handball looks like. If it’s not intentional it’s not handball. It’s accidental.2. Offside. I won’t even address the phases of play nonsense and being active. Just the bit where the technology draws the line - say it’s got to be a ball’s width ahead of the defender. Give the advantage back to scoring goals instead of looking for reasons to disallow them.
Quote from: Silkscarf on June 30, 2024, 08:10:15 amQuote from: pib on June 29, 2024, 10:39:56 pmThe ref is just applying the law. He’s accountable to that. The law and the technology is what’s ruining it.It’s just the laws which are wrong. We can use technology if the rules make sense in the first place. 2 key ones need changing:1. Handball. It’s got to ‘mean it’ like it used to. Like the famous ones that weren’t given (e.g. Maradona, Thierry Henry, Joe Jordan). We all know what intentional handball looks like. If it’s not intentional it’s not handball. It’s accidental.2. Offside. I won’t even address the phases of play nonsense and being active. Just the bit where the technology draws the line - say it’s got to be a ball’s width ahead of the defender. Give the advantage back to scoring goals instead of looking for reasons to disallow them.An accidental handball that results in an advantage to the handballing side should be penalised.
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned who the VAR ref was last night. The one and only Stuart Atwell. Fast tracked to the Premiership some years and subsequently demoted as he was making too many mistakes and then all is forgiven and he reappears back in the prem. He is totally useless and is a shining example of how far the standard of English referees has fallen. How he got to be officiating at the Euros god knows..........or maybe there was nobody available from the Faroe islands.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on June 18, 2024, 09:30:44 pmBut at least we haven't had "Oh he'll be disappointed with that" when a player does something disappointing, or "He's got to hit the target from there" when a player doesn't hit the target. From there.Tsunami of classic Murphyisms in the Switzerland-Italy match.At 2-0 he said:"Italy have a huge mountain to climb""If the Swiss score the next, you'll think it's too much for Italy""Thing is for Italy, it's hard when it's hot. And your playing against a good team."
VAR is f**king awful.Denmark have a goal ruled out because a toenail hasn't been clipped. Then Germany get a penalty for the ball brushing by a hand that's in a perfectly reasonable position.Awful, awful invention. It's seriously f**king up the top level game.
I may be misremembering other examples, but this tournament feels like the rise of the underdog - smaller countries rising up and really competing - Romania looking good currently, Austria been strong, Georgia were good value, Slovenia ran Portugal all the way, Swiss in quarters etc, feels a much more level playing field which is making for some really competitive and enjoyable games.